| Author | Message | ||
| keavin
Member Username: keavin Post Number: 51 Registered: 12-2002 |
p-bass type. | ||
| effclef
Member Username: effclef Post Number: 72 Registered: 1-2004 |
Oh, when with the guy stop making these and go to prison???? <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ebayisapi.dll?viewitem&item=3712174096&category=4713> Note the font he picks now - different from the other fakes that we've seen. Also, he's put on a serial number with an H in it like a real Elan. Seller is in Las Vegas.      EffClef | ||
| keavin
Member Username: keavin Post Number: 52 Registered: 12-2002 |
i also seen one in a vegas pawnshop for $1,500, and beleive it or not!!!! some nut baught it!!!!!,it was one of those (ply wood body p-bass, styled cheapies!) man..... i felt sorry for that buyer.! | ||
| effclef
Member Username: effclef Post Number: 73 Registered: 1-2004 |
It's almost like there needs to be a flood of posters like the Magritte "Ceci n'est pas un pipe" painting! "THIS IS NOT AN ALEMBIC..." EffClef PS it should have been "when WILL this guy..." | ||
| keavin
Member Username: keavin Post Number: 53 Registered: 12-2002 |
sombody call the guitar cops!!! | ||
| davehouck
Senior Member Username: davehouck Post Number: 446 Registered: 5-2002 |
I started to report it to Ebay, then thought I should email the seller and give them a chance to remove the listing. Then I thought if I did that, the seller may just find some other avenue for selling it. Then I went back and read EffClef's post to a previous thread on this subject wherein he talked about Mica's efforts to find the person making these counterfeits. So then I'm thinking maybe Mica wouldn't want me warning the seller if she is taking some other action. So now I'm wondering what action, if any, should we take in these cases. I certainly wouldn't want somebody buying this bass thinking they are buying an Alembic. | ||
| elzie
Advanced Member Username: elzie Post Number: 295 Registered: 8-2002 |
Dave, just e-mail the seller and ask him some questions about it. For example; Can you give me your address so I can calculate shipping? Or, Can you give me your address so I can mail you a certified check for this item? Maybe that way, these addresses can be compared every time one of these comes up. Paul II | ||
| bsee
New Username: bsee Post Number: 1 Registered: 3-2004 |
The guy has good feedback, so maybe he's making an honest mistake and will be cooperative? Of course, all he's likely to be able to tell anyone is that he picked it up for a couple hundred at a local pawn shop. -Bob | ||
| mica
Moderator Username: mica Post Number: 1490 Registered: 6-2000 |
I've contacted the seller on this listing. Hopefully I'll get a reply. I always give the sellers of the fakes a chance before reporting to ebay. So far, I've only had one uncooperative seller that I had to resort to that. | ||
| davehouck
Senior Member Username: davehouck Post Number: 448 Registered: 5-2002 |
Thanks Mica! | ||
| davehouck
Senior Member Username: davehouck Post Number: 449 Registered: 5-2002 |
And welcome to the group, Bob! | ||
| bracheen
Advanced Member Username: bracheen Post Number: 305 Registered: 11-2003 |
Bob! You snuck in on us! Welcome! Good catch Dave. Sam | ||
| mica
Moderator Username: mica Post Number: 1491 Registered: 6-2000 |
From the seller: Hi Mica, I was completely unaware of the bass being fake. I appreciate you letting me know so I do not mislead anyone on ebay. I received the bass as a gift. I will be removing the auction today. thanks So that's that. I've emailed again to ask him to sand off the logo. | ||
| effclef
Member Username: effclef Post Number: 75 Registered: 1-2004 |
Any chance he can give you some of the paper trail, Mica? Sure would be great to get more clues. EffClef | ||
| bassman10096
Advanced Member Username: bassman10096 Post Number: 237 Registered: 7-2003 |
I recieved an Email from the seller, saying he was not aware it was a fake and promising to end the auction. I just checked Ebay and did not find the item. Now I vacillate between thinking this is a good result and wondering where he'll take it next... Bill | ||
| mica
Moderator Username: mica Post Number: 1492 Registered: 6-2000 |
I asked him for assistance with the "heritage" of the bass. I haven't heard back yet, but I'll ask him again in a few days and see what he says. | ||
| effclef
Member Username: effclef Post Number: 76 Registered: 1-2004 |
It would be great if some leads could surface. Get Brisco and Green on the case! EffClef Green: "Look at that...transfer lettering on the headstock." Brisco: "Yeah, the guy probably got his expertise with letters by making license plates up at Ossining." | ||
| u14steelgtr
New Username: u14steelgtr Post Number: 10 Registered: 7-2003 |
I am still musing over the second post by keavin in this thread: "it was one of those (ply wood body p-bass, styled cheapies!) man....." While our Alembic instruments are not cheap. They more often than not do meet the criterion to be plywood. <insert evil sounding delay-enhanced laugher here> I am not surprised that the seller did not know it was a "fake." I find that the majority of players in my part of the country have never heard of Alembic as we know it. Regards -- Eugene | ||
| keavin
Member Username: keavin Post Number: 67 Registered: 12-2002 |
that is sooooo true a lot of players never heard of alembic, ive had (pro) cats ask me what kind of bass is that,or did you build bass yourself,or that thing looks so old does it still work?. and when i tell them its an antique alembic ,thats when they look like they just saw a freakin ghost!!! ....hell, this one dude almost @#$%^&**& in his damn pants, once plugged the damn thing up and did a bass solo! | ||
| 0vid
New Username: 0vid Post Number: 9 Registered: 4-2003 |
I trawl ebay everyday for lefties and have a soft spot for Alembics & Rickenbackers. If you are in the Rickenbacker newsgroups, you will find John Hall, CEO of RIC, and his legal backup, very very quick with ebay fakes. A univox, Ibanez or tanglewood or whatever fake rick is usually attacked with a barrage of legal 'advice' and usually the goods are pulled out from auction. They have a 'no mercy' approach. But at least those fakes are infinging on copyright of design, but these alembic fakes ( I have seen more than once now).....are no where near any alembic design ethos..... |
