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sjhoffma
Intermediate Member
Username: sjhoffma

Post Number: 165
Registered: 5-2008
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 4:57 pm:   Edit Post

Saw this while I was browsing through ways to protect a lacquer finish. (I have some weird milky stain/spots in my finish that feel like they are under the lacquer on my Eastman archtop. Look like they are stains from some grime that might have gotten on the outside of the finish, but won't wipe away with polish and cloth. They are shaped like water stains, but I don't know how they could have gotten under the finish. I at first thought I might have accidentally sprayed something on the guitar and that it ate away at the lacquer, but as I said, it is flush with the rest of the finish and feels like its underneath. If anyone has any advice, it would me much appreciated)

Anyway, this guitar was on one of the sites I was looking through. Appears to be neck through, but could be a "hippie sandwich" bolt on. looks like carvin pickups? But I thought the switches looked very Alembic like. Then I noticed the bird tailpiece and alembic style bridge, and what seem like they could be oval fret markers. Could this be a guitar modified by the factory? Anyone have any info? It looks like a cool axe.
bluplirst
Intermediate Member
Username: bluplirst

Post Number: 110
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 9:59 pm:   Edit Post

Looks like an Ibanez or Fernandes to me. They copied Alembic alot in the '70's. Definitely looks like a Japanese guitar from back then.
pierreyves
Senior Member
Username: pierreyves

Post Number: 708
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post

It's not a Fernandes, not a Roland, not an Ibanez I think...
I found this picture but no name:
http://b.imagehost.org/0370/vantage_01.jpg
on this page:
http://www.shortscale.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=639635&sid=2f60a3738d8658f74468a26e53a8caa2
bluplirst
Intermediate Member
Username: bluplirst

Post Number: 111
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post

Here's what it says on that page you linked, pierreyves

"check out this badass Vantage"

Vantage guitars were built in the famous matsumoku factory, japan. A ton of brands were made there.
pierreyves
Senior Member
Username: pierreyves

Post Number: 709
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post

OOOPS !!! I was looking on badass guitars 80's on Googler, not vantage !!!
This is the famous guitar:
http://www.guitariste.com/forums/guitare,guitare-vantage-va-900,379324.html
tmoney61092
Senior Member
Username: tmoney61092

Post Number: 578
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2010 - 3:57 am:   Edit Post

Looks either like a Westone Thunder or some kind of Vantage to me

~Taylor
dfung60
Senior Member
Username: dfung60

Post Number: 451
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2010 - 7:18 am:   Edit Post

Hard to tell without seeing it, but from the description of your finish problem sounds like this was contamination on the wood underneath the finish. Before the instrument was finished some oil or silicone might have gotten on the wood, wasn't cleaned off properly (silicone is pretty much impossible to eliminate), and the lacquer has released from the surface here. If this is the case, there's no way to fix it short of refinishing.

I would agree with the others on the guitar. In the 70's and early 80's many Japanese guitars featured very direct rip-offs of Alembic hardware and design.

David Fung
stodlario
New
Username: stodlario

Post Number: 1
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Friday, February 04, 2011 - 6:22 am:   Edit Post

that milky stuff you are talking about is moisture in the timber you need to put and iron under a cloth keep it warm increase heat slowly and it will come out,the guitar is a vantage VA 900 series i bought mine brand new 1980 i hope that help you

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