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hasenobu
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Username: hasenobu

Post Number: 1
Registered: 11-2010
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 6:19 am:   Edit Post

Hello. Greetings from Japan. I'm a new member here. In fact, I know almost nothing about Alembic guitars/basses except that they are exceptionally splendid instruments.

Anyway, I have a question. While browsing an auction site, I came across a seemingly Alembic guitar shown below:
http://www.geocities.co.jp/ar_lovers_room/Alembic/01.jpg
http://www.geocities.co.jp/ar_lovers_room/Alembic/02.jpg
http://www.geocities.co.jp/ar_lovers_room/Alembic/0.jpg

As I wrote, since I'm completely ignorant of Alembic guitars, I can't even discern whether this one is a genuine Alembic or just a fake one.

Will someone of you tell me about this guitar? If it really is an Alembic, when was it made? How much was it, and so on? Or, is there any good information source for the guitar anywhere?

I'm so sorry for bothering you, and thanks in advance.

(Message edited by HASENOBU on November 22, 2010)
hasenobu
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Username: hasenobu

Post Number: 2
Registered: 11-2010
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 6:21 am:   Edit Post

Oh, sorry! I made a mistake in copying the URL.
The third picture is here:
http://www.geocities.co.jp/ar_lovers_room/Alembic/03.jpg
hydrargyrum
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Username: hydrargyrum

Post Number: 883
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 6:28 am:   Edit Post

Hello,

This guitar was not built by Alembic. However, it does look as though somebody has placed Alembic electronics in the guitar. Alembic licensed their name to a Japanese manufacturer for a short time, and they produced some bolt neck guitars. However, none of them were stratocaster clones, and they look radically different from this instrument. There are many people who have modified their Fender stratocasters to include Alembic guts, and I suspect that this is the case here. The decal on the headstock is interesting, as I don't recall having seen another like it during my time here at the forum. If the Alembic electronics are intact, this could still be a really nice guitar. In order to tell for sure a shot of the control cavity would be necessary.

Here's a link to another strat that was modified to include Alembic electronics: http://alembic.com/club/messages/411/24402.html?1250858623

(Message edited by hydrargyrum on November 22, 2010)
cozmik_cowboy
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Username: cozmik_cowboy

Post Number: 839
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 6:43 am:   Edit Post

I've been thinking about the "logo"; as you say know little about Alembic, Hasenobu, "Activators" is the name Alembic gives their replacement electronics. The only thing I can come up with is that the label was on the wrapping (never seen a box, so I don't know) and the person doing the modifcation cut it out & glued it to the headstock.

Peter
hasenobu
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Username: hasenobu

Post Number: 3
Registered: 11-2010
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 6:44 am:   Edit Post

Thank you, Hydrargyrum!!

My impression has long been that "Alembic" guitars are full of originality in their guitar making, so I felt something fishy about the guitar shown above.

I do appreciate your prompt response!
hasenobu
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Username: hasenobu

Post Number: 4
Registered: 11-2010
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 6:48 am:   Edit Post

Oh, I see! Thanks for the information, Cozmic Cowboy!! I think your guess must be correct.
jazzyvee
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Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 2245
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 6:50 am:   Edit Post

I am one of those people who have modified a strat to include alembic activators and found them to be a fantastic upgrade although I have not managed to find success using it with overdrive /distortion pedal. But I guess that again is a personal taste.
If it's a guitar you like and the alembic innards are genuine it is a good compromise and a way to get a feel of the alembic guitar sound.

Jazzyvee
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 9881
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 6:57 am:   Edit Post

Nagatani Nobuo; welcome to the Alembic club! There is much information here on our board about Alembic guitars; and yes, you are right, Alembic guitars are very original and of extremely high quality. Enjoy!
hasenobu
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Username: hasenobu

Post Number: 5
Registered: 11-2010
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 7:03 am:   Edit Post

I see what you mean, Jazzyvee. Thank you very much for your suggestion. The seller is asking for JPY 58,000 (approx. = US$ 725) for the guitar. Suppose the electronics are genuine replacement, what do you say? Do you think it is a bargain?
hasenobu
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Username: hasenobu

Post Number: 6
Registered: 11-2010
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 7:11 am:   Edit Post

What a heartwarming welcome! I feel very much honored to receive a message from the moderator! Thank you very much, Davehouck.
To tell you the truth, Alembic guitars/basses were (and, still are) extremely expensive, to the extent that I never dreamed of purchasing one.... But, I'm starting to get the guitar in question just to enjoy a feel of the Alembic guitar sound, as Jazzyvee kindly suggested.

(Message edited by HASENOBU on November 22, 2010)
room037
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Username: room037

Post Number: 362
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 7:30 am:   Edit Post

Hi Nobuo,

I am also a member of Alembic Fan Club in Japan.

The distributor "Rokkomann" produced "Alembic Japan" that we know headless bolt on neck.
They also produced Fender type Bass and Guitar with activator, the brand name is "Frisco".
Of course these instruments were not build by Alembic.
There are the brochures on Rokkomann's site.

I think the guitar was made by Rokkomann as Frisco.

Eiji
hydrargyrum
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Username: hydrargyrum

Post Number: 884
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 7:39 am:   Edit Post

Alembic electronics can be rather expensive. If the guitar is in good playable shape, then this might not be a bad deal.

Jazzyvee: Have you ever tried a Zvex Mastotron? They are designed to be compatible with active electronics. I've never tried one, but I have heard good reviews.
hasenobu
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Username: hasenobu

Post Number: 7
Registered: 11-2010
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 7:45 am:   Edit Post

Hello, Eiji-san.
Thank you for the link.
After I checked the site you mentioned, I still believe that guitar is not a "Frisco" guitar, judging from their specifications. As Jazzyvee noted, this particular one seems to be a modded guitar.
Thanks, anyway.
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 9882
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post

As others mentioned above, if the entire electronics package is Alembic, then it's probably a good deal if the guitar itself plays well. However, if only the pickups are Alembic, and the other electronics are not, then it might not be the best way to go.

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