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tcube
Junior
Username: tcube

Post Number: 28
Registered: 8-2007
Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2010 - 4:31 pm:   Edit Post

Where on the Alembic website might I find descriptions of the Distillate, Persuader, and Spoilers? (They're not on the Products-Basses page.) Their body shapes are similar and there seems to be a variety of electronics configurations, so it's difficult to distinguish between them.

Are they all 32" scale?
pauldo
Senior Member
Username: pauldo

Post Number: 523
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2010 - 7:10 pm:   Edit Post

Terry,
I sent you an e-mail with a couple of documents attached. One describes the electronics, the other describes the build record of my 84 Distillate.

If you go to the Serial Number Request area you can look up different years of basses and glean the build record for comparisons.
tcube
Junior
Username: tcube

Post Number: 30
Registered: 8-2007
Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2010 - 7:18 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks!
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 7113
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2010 - 8:55 pm:   Edit Post

The Showcase also has many examples of each. Generally these models are 32" scale, but there are of course exceptions!
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 7114
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2010 - 9:01 pm:   Edit Post

Oh, and Persuaders have the same shape as Spoilers unless they have the optional Vector, Exploiter or other shape. The Distillate is a little flatter at the bottom, and the horns are a different shape from the Spoiler.
tcube
Junior
Username: tcube

Post Number: 31
Registered: 8-2007
Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2010 - 9:30 pm:   Edit Post

Mica, pauldo,

A big thank you! I'll check it all out.

Yikes - there seem to be more variations within a model as there are across models! Which just means more to drool over.
tcube
Junior
Username: tcube

Post Number: 32
Registered: 8-2007
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2010 - 2:31 pm:   Edit Post

What are the advantages of a 32" scale over a standard 34"? Are they built to be tuned to higher pitch (e.g. AGDC)?

Most importantly, do they still have the monster Alembic sound?
mike1762
Senior Member
Username: mike1762

Post Number: 709
Registered: 1-2008
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2010 - 4:51 pm:   Edit Post

"Advantage" is in the eye of the beholder!!! I have Alembics in short, medium, and long scale. I like 'em all for different reasons. The shorter scales are easier to maneuver around on because... well, they're shorter!!! The shorter scale length also translates to less string tension (all other things being equal). If your used to 34" scale, 32" may not be a noticeable difference.
sonicus
Senior Member
Username: sonicus

Post Number: 1479
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2010 - 8:04 pm:   Edit Post

I have Long and Medium Scale Alembics .Like Mike writes I like them for different reasons and I LOVE them all ! And Yes ,__both my long and short scale Alembic friends can have the " monster Alembic sound" if I want them to. . I like my medium scale ones for playing Bass chords !
jimmyj
Advanced Member
Username: jimmyj

Post Number: 245
Registered: 8-2008
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2010 - 9:58 pm:   Edit Post

To get an idea of the difference, medium scale (32") is like putting a capo on the first fret of a long-scale (34") bass and tuning down a 1/2 step (and moving all the markers...). Short scale (30") is almost like putting a capo on the second fret and tuning down a whole step. Then you can get into string guages and tweak it all to your liking. It really is up to the individual...
Jimmy J
tcube
Junior
Username: tcube

Post Number: 34
Registered: 8-2007
Posted on Thursday, December 23, 2010 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post

Has anyone had problems with the strings on a 32" feeling too floppy (assuming EADG tuning)?

What gauge strings do you all use?
adriaan
Moderator
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 2723
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, December 23, 2010 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post

I'd say you need to look at gauge and make and type, but this is what I've found with my Spoiler (32"):

D'Addarrio XL 45-105 - not at all floppy.
DR HiBeams 45-105 - not at all floppy.
DR LoRiders 45-105 - tighter than the HiBeams.

I've never even tried finding "medium scale" strings - these were all "long scale".
skyboltone
Junior
Username: skyboltone

Post Number: 23
Registered: 11-2010
Posted on Thursday, December 23, 2010 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post

Great post JimmyJ. Don't forget the weight part.
sonicus
Senior Member
Username: sonicus

Post Number: 1481
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Thursday, December 23, 2010 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post

On my medium scale 81 Distillate I have had good luck with Dean
Markley Blue Steel set #2670 40-95 . Decent tension through out as well as quite tight close to the bridge the way I like it.
mike1762
Senior Member
Username: mike1762

Post Number: 711
Registered: 1-2008
Posted on Thursday, December 23, 2010 - 4:23 pm:   Edit Post

I use progressively heavier strings the shorter the scale length: Long scale - 95/75/60/40, Medium scale - 100/80/60/40, Short scale - 105/85/65/45. All are DR Hi Beams. The exception is that I use DR Hi Beam flats (125/105/85/65/45) on my 35" 5 string fretless and DR Lo Riders (125/105/85/65/45/30) on my 34" 6 string.

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