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lethaldose
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Username: lethaldose

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Registered: 12-2010
Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 5:23 pm:   Edit Post

theres no serial visible..tuning pegs say made in germany

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(moderator's note: just aligned pictures)

(Message edited by mica on December 28, 2010)
lembic76450
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Post Number: 256
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Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 5:34 pm:   Edit Post

Lee
Look on the very top of the headstock, left side will be the year and the right side the number in order, of instruments made.
BTW, welcome to the club.
mica
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Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 5:49 pm:   Edit Post

I'll bet that's an Eastern Maple top. Love the framing laminates on the neck (which is very likely Maple and Purpleheart). Gonna guess 1975 on that one, but hope you can find the serial number on the tippy top of the peghead as Kenn suggests.
lembic76450
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Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 5:54 pm:   Edit Post

Mica
Trussrod cover in '75?
Love the "mellowed" finish.
mica
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Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 6:00 pm:   Edit Post

Well, you are right that would put it more like 1978ish, AND the black switches. You're right, my first guess was way too early.
davehouck
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Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 7:28 pm:   Edit Post

Bridge is post '76 as well. But the vibe sure feels like '75. Very nice!

Oh, and welcome to the club!
mike1762
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Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 8:05 pm:   Edit Post

You gotta be kidding!!! Earlier this year we had the SI that someone found under their bed and now this!!! I'm gonna start going thru my house and see if I stumble across a SII that I forgot about. Nice axe... what are you going to do with it???
room037
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Username: room037

Post Number: 367
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Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 8:27 pm:   Edit Post

Nice Guitar !

I think the serial number is around 1200 to 1400.(late 78 to early 79)
I found only few the outer stripe on that range.

Of course, it is not "FerBic" that I think.

Eiji
lethaldose
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Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 9:24 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks guys,I found the serial it's a 78 serial 1226,what model is it though? any ideas of what its worth?
lethaldose
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Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 9:35 pm:   Edit Post

also whats the crazy xlr looking output for? some kind of power supply?
afrobeat_fool
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Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 9:36 pm:   Edit Post

Anything you want? I have lots of gear!!!!!



Nick
afrobeat_fool
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Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 9:40 pm:   Edit Post

It is a stereo output for the pick-ups. You can split the signal at the blue box to 2 different amps.
ajdover
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Post Number: 923
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 9:41 pm:   Edit Post

Lee,

What you have there appears to be a Series I guitar from what I can tell. The five pin connector goes to a power supply which powers the active electronics in the guitar. Your controls appear to be volume X 2, filter X 2, and Q switches for each pickup (not sure if they're two position or three position). The pickup selector is the switch on the lower horn.

What's it worth? I have no idea, but I'd guess at least a couple grand. I'll defer to those with more knowledge on such things.

Alan
lbpesq
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Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 9:45 pm:   Edit Post

Lee:

Welcome to the club. You've got a very sweet instrument there. It is what is now called a "Series I" guitar. (I believe at that time it was the only model Alembic was making. It became the Series I later on). From the body shape, I'd venture that it is a medium scale - 24.75", like a Gibson. Assuming the electronics all work and you have the original "blue box" power supply and case, it would likely bring about $2200-3400, depending on condition (your's looks pretty sweet). It's a little difficult to put a hard value on these as they come up for sale sporadically at best. One of your vintage might show up once or twice a year at most on eBay, and might not show up for a year or two.

Bill, tgo
lethaldose
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Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 9:46 pm:   Edit Post

I like vintage synth's
elwoodblue
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Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 9:46 pm:   Edit Post

It's a "series one" guitar,
I'd guess it's worth 2300-3000 depending on condition and the mood of the market.
The 5-pin jack is to power it , and for the stereo signal (separate channel for each pickup )from the guitar. The power supply box (DS-5) has 1/4" outputs to connect to the amps.

You should make sure there isn't any old batteries in it that might leak.

What a find ! I have a '78 series one guitar (#1100) , they are fantastic instruments that just get better as the years go by.

(Message edited by elwoodblue on December 28, 2010)
lethaldose
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Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 9:52 pm:   Edit Post

Do you guys have a pic of the power supply?
lbpesq
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Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 9:53 pm:   Edit Post

Lee:

I have a Moog Theremin I'd trade! Also a very vintage Carvin mixing board with rotary pots and real mechanical VU meters! Heck, I got lots of old stuff. I'd trade lots of it for that guitar!

Bill, tgo
lethaldose
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Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 10:57 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks again guys...my pops was an amazing guitar player(bless his soul),was in guitar player magazine in 88 with keith richards on the cover,played with moby grape on they're last record etc,plus a gear hoarder,so I'm going to dig through piles of cables and amps and midi units etc for the mystery blue box lol..
tmoney61092
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Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 - 11:04 pm:   Edit Post

well...any other gear you're trying to get rid of? such as bass gear... :-)

~Taylor
jazzyvee
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Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 2283
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 - 4:54 am:   Edit Post

That looks a pretty tasty guitar you have there. Have you ever heard this guitar being played? Or have you tried playing it yourself?

If you decide to keep it, it's a treasure. If you decide to part with it I'm sure someone here will give it a great home. If you find the build record in your search that will give you some useful information on the guitar.

All the best with your search.
Jazzyvee
hydrargyrum
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Username: hydrargyrum

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Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 - 7:23 am:   Edit Post

Wow! Find of the century. I'm glad this is getting the attention it deserves now.
dfung60
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Username: dfung60

Post Number: 466
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2010 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post

Congrats on the find!

Nobody else had mentioned this yet, but if you plug a regular guitar cord into the 1/4" jack, you'll only hear the bridge pickup, and the pickup selector will appear to be dead in two positions. There's nothing wrong - the 1/4" jack is a stereo jack, not mono, and a regular mono plug will only get one pickup's output. On the current instruments, the output is usually mono to be more wireless friendly.

You won't get any output at all until you have a pair of good 9v batteries in there. And on a Series instrument, the battery life is really short - maybe 40 hours (vs. 1000 for something like EMGs).

The power supply looks like this. Once you know the bluish color you're looking for, you can't miss it - it's small, but built like a tank

Old DS-5 - 1

Old DS-5 - 2

Some of the boxes are black, but I think that's a lot later than this guitar.

While you're looking for it, keep an eye open for the special cable that you'll need to connect this 5-pin XLR up. The standard cable has one end that has the same shell as a standard mic connector (of course, 5 pins instead of 3) and the guitar end is a right-angle XLR which you don't see too often.

Enjoy! This is a real treasure!

David Fung
hifiguy
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Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2010 - 1:29 pm:   Edit Post

Holeeee cow. Every few years you hear about something like this. Beautiful instrument w/ a particularly nice patina of age.

BTW, didn't someone find a Gibson Flying V prototype under a bed about ten-twelve years ago? I think the story was that it was sent to the case manufacturer for fitting purposes and never made it back to Gibson. Sat under a bed for nearly forty years before the guy's son found it.
edwin
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Username: edwin

Post Number: 828
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, December 31, 2010 - 1:06 am:   Edit Post

Hm, I wonder if that was the V that a friend of mine played. She had a benefactor who loved her music and hooked her up with a prototype for a while. Nice axe.

So's this one!
groovelines
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Username: groovelines

Post Number: 651
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Friday, December 31, 2010 - 1:00 pm:   Edit Post

The only thing I ever found in my dad's garage were chores. Nothing like this, nice start to the new year.

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