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piers_williamson
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Username: piers_williamson

Post Number: 1
Registered: 3-2011
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2011 - 5:27 am:   Edit Post

I have a left handed Mark King Standard Bass. Compared with the other basses I own (Jazz and Musicmans), I find my Alembic is relatively neck-heavy. Whilst it's the same scale length as my other basses, the headstock extends a further two or three inches at least. I wondered whether there was anything I could do to weight the body more (e.g. replacing the plastic battery compartment cover with a brass one)
groovelines
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Username: groovelines

Post Number: 668
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2011 - 5:59 am:   Edit Post

Hi Piers, and welcome to the club. The common answer around here is to use a wide strap, say about 3-4 inches. And if possible one that has a suede, or unfinished leather back for added "grip".
The tail piece and bridge position relative to the bass' body (especially for your MK) when compared to most other basses is "pushed" forward, thus extending the reach for first position. You may also need to adjust the bass' playing position a bit to bring the head it closer to you.
I needed to make similar adjustments with mine and all was well afterward.
You could try the brass cover, but the MK is heavy enough. I try the other two first before going to the trouble of having a brass cover made.
terryc
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Username: terryc

Post Number: 1520
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2011 - 9:34 am:   Edit Post

piers..welcome the club.
I own a MK but it is medium scale so I can reach the first fret, I once tried a full scale MK and I couldn't reach the first position(as I am short a**e LOL)
As groovelines says I would avoid the brass cover as it is already a very heavy bass. The strap idea is one to go for I would say
mike1762
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Username: mike1762

Post Number: 773
Registered: 1-2008
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2011 - 2:53 pm:   Edit Post

I had to reluctantly part with my Standard Point Series I for the same reason... I just couldn't get comfortable with it. The neck-heaviness I can deal with, but the reach thing was something I couldn't overcome.
thumbsup
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Username: thumbsup

Post Number: 276
Registered: 7-2008
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2011 - 7:14 pm:   Edit Post

I have a MK Balanced and no problem with first position but it is also a load. The wide leather stap helped tremmendosly!
rjmsteel
Intermediate Member
Username: rjmsteel

Post Number: 149
Registered: 7-2008
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2011 - 7:52 pm:   Edit Post

Where or which manufacturer, these days, are you guys purchasing your wide leather straps from? I need a new one.

Recommendations anyone?
eligilam
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Username: eligilam

Post Number: 311
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 6:20 am:   Edit Post

I've got 4" Italia leather straps on all my basses. Really high quality, good looks. Check out their website. They're frequently offering buy-one get-one deals.

www.italiastraps.com
rjmsteel
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Username: rjmsteel

Post Number: 150
Registered: 7-2008
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 6:37 am:   Edit Post

Thanks Will. Those DO look nice.

Are other club members in agreement? Any other possible recommendations? Chicago area dealers?
sonicus
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Username: sonicus

Post Number: 1662
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 7:03 am:   Edit Post

Check it out;
http://alembic.stores.yahoo.net/straps.html
sonicus
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Username: sonicus

Post Number: 1663
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 7:14 am:   Edit Post

The http://www.italiastraps.com/
Are good ! I have some as well. In fact they look quite a bit like the Alembic strap . The suede backing and slick leather backing feel different to wear ; just to let you know. The suede has an anti slide feel to it that can be good or bad depending on what you want.
bassthang
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Username: bassthang

Post Number: 8
Registered: 1-2011
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 7:45 am:   Edit Post

Maybe replace the tuning machines with Hipshot Ultralites? That should reduce the headstock weight.
Someday I plan on doing that with my Distillate.
lbpesq
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Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 4772
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 8:42 am:   Edit Post

The Alembic straps are made by Moody. You can buy directly from Moody (without the Alembic logo), at moodyleather.com. The design of Italia and Moody are very similar as the guy who does Italia used to be partners in Moody and took designs with him when they split up. I've found the Moody straps to be far superior. Better leather, straighter stitching, and the Italias I got were thicker and difficult to fit over the
pin. The Moody straps are definitely more expensive but, as we all know well around here, you get what you pay for.

Bill, tgo
sonicus
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Username: sonicus

Post Number: 1664
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 8:56 am:   Edit Post

That is good to know Bill . I really did notice that the Italia were a bit thick and difficult to install my Schaller Strap locks on .Next time I will try a " Moody".
rjmsteel
Intermediate Member
Username: rjmsteel

Post Number: 151
Registered: 7-2008
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 9:35 am:   Edit Post

I noticed that possible "issue" on the Italia straps regarding the pin hole, actually right away, from the pictures of their products on the web site. I ordered Dunlop strap locks on my soon to be completed custom (bass) and was obviously concerned about that.

Bill I appreciate the heads up on the product quality with the Moody, (and the history too).

Thanks to all!
sonicus
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Username: sonicus

Post Number: 1665
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 9:50 am:   Edit Post

After I had the Italias ( or other strap) ,I made it work but stretching and honing a bit and letting the compression of the strap lock hardware help do the work . After a few days I tightened the nut a bit more and applied BLUE locktite #242. Beware of the RED#241 for this application because it might be do difficult to undo with out heat.
rjmsteel
Intermediate Member
Username: rjmsteel

Post Number: 152
Registered: 7-2008
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post

Thanks: Thats a good idea with the locktight. I am aware even Mica has pointed out the preventive where as to frequently check the connection of the strap to the pin... of which I am guilty of NOT checking! Got it on the BLUE stuff.
gtrguy
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Username: gtrguy

Post Number: 351
Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post

I had my strap come apart at a practice last week. I was lucky. I put in a lock washer instead of the flat washer but think I need to use some loctite instead.
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 4774
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post

Checking the nut on my strap lock is a regular component of my "pre-flight check list" EVERY time I play. I only had to watch my friend's strap come undone and his Martin fall and bounce off the stage like a Bernie Madoff check once to learn my lesson about checking straps and strap buttons, etc. It still hurts to even think about it.

By the way, you're going to LOVE the Moody straps.

Bill, tgo

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