| Author | Message | ||
| jagerphan84
Member Username: jagerphan84 Post Number: 67 Registered: 10-2003 |
I just finally got all the pieces and put together my first decent bass rig. It's nothing crazy, but it's my first rig so I have to be excited about it. Heck, I AM still technically a teenager, so I'm gonna act like it as long as I can. Anyways, have a look:  Total cost for the gear and the rack itself: $1096.93! Full retail would be pushing $2500 or so, and these are in great shape. The power amp is NOS, I am the first owner. Everything else is pre-owned in nearly mint condition. I'm planning on eventually adding in an SF-2, and possibly a compressor/limiter or some rackmount effects (if my back doesn't disagree with moving up to an 8 or 10 space rack). Haven't made up my mind, and haven't had a chance to use what I've got yet (...and also out of $), so time will tell... Adam | ||
| bracheen
Senior Member Username: bracheen Post Number: 524 Registered: 11-2003 |
Very nice setup. I'm certainly no expert but shouldn't there be some sort of speakers? Kidding aside that should really show off your Distillate right. Sam | ||
| jagerphan84
Member Username: jagerphan84 Post Number: 68 Registered: 10-2003 |
Bracheen, it is rare that I laugh aloud from something I read online, but you accomplished the task. I'll show you the cab that I am working with...and you will see why I chose 'working with' rather than 'playing through'... I am in the process of a damage claim with an unnamed shipping company as this item was structurally perfect before shipment. Anyways (deja vu?), here it is:  I was not a happy guy when I opened that box. I opened it just AFTER carrying it up to my 3rd floor apartment alone. The package was 97 pounds, I am 150. My arms hurt for 2 days, and I still haven't seen a penny in the nearly 2 months (!) that I have had this thing sitting here. As long as I get my money back, I will have no complaints, but it has been TOO long. ... Still waiting (Talking Heads, anyone?).... Adam | ||
| jagerphan84
Member Username: jagerphan84 Post Number: 69 Registered: 10-2003 |
BTW, that would be an Ampeg SVR 212, with one front-facing and one rear-facing 12" as well as an attenuable horn. This cab can really bump some bass, but it isn't leaving the apartment til I can fix it up. | ||
| jagerphan84
Member Username: jagerphan84 Post Number: 70 Registered: 10-2003 |
Here's a "before" shot.  | ||
| hollis
Advanced Member Username: hollis Post Number: 278 Registered: 11-2003 |
Oooouch! | ||
| bsee
Intermediate Member Username: bsee Post Number: 164 Registered: 3-2004 |
Are you sure the cab was good before shipment? The 'before' picture looks like something might not be lined up quite right in the area where it broke. In any case, I hope you get your money back from somewhere! | ||
| jagerphan84
Member Username: jagerphan84 Post Number: 71 Registered: 10-2003 |
I do see what you mean, Bob, but I think that is just the angle of the picture. The full extent of the trauma was not visible in the first photo, but here is the rear view of the left side, just out of the box in my apartment.  Other photos were provided beforehand which showed this side intact, and this damage was bound to happen -- the shipper wrapped this amp in a couple of layers of bubble wrap, dropped it in a box, and away it went. Not quite sufficient packing for a 90 pound amp. I have a friend who works at unnamed shipping company who informed me that oversize packages go across a conveyor about 6 feet up, and occasionally packages make a leap to the ground and are then sent on to the destination... That seems to be just what happened to this thing, if everything I have learned about detective work from Law & Order is true (and it's on TV, so it must be). Adam | ||
| edwin
Junior Username: edwin Post Number: 37 Registered: 5-2002 |
Nice rig! Sorry about the speaker cab. Boy, it sure puts to shame the rigs I had as a teenager. I mostly used a Dual Showman through some really weird random cabinets before I finally found an old beat up McIntosh 2105 (that now runs my studio monitors, sans front glass) and a big double 15 JBL cab purpotedly built by Joe Walsh's sound crew. I had no preamp, so I built one into my bass (a 1963 EB2D with Bartolinis). Edwin | ||
| lowlife
Member Username: lowlife Post Number: 100 Registered: 12-2003 |
Nice rig, hope that you get properley compensated for the cab. Ellery (Lowlife) | ||
| adriaan
Advanced Member Username: adriaan Post Number: 270 Registered: 6-2002 |
If "anyone" may answer: let's hope this remains a once in a lifetime experience <g>. | ||
| jagerphan84
Member Username: jagerphan84 Post Number: 72 Registered: 10-2003 |
Thanks for the compliments. I certainly wouldn't wish the shipping damage experience upon anyone, myself included. I returned the claim form to the shipping company's insurance carrier a couple weeks back, so theoretically a check should be in the mail in the near future. I plan to chop off the rack and fix up the frame and edges for the remaining section, which would just be a 212 cab with nice handles and removable casters. I will soon be supplementing this with an Eden 210, so I will likely disconnect (or at least attenuate) the horn and use the 212 for the low end and the 210 for the highs. That oughta move a little air... (Message edited by jagerphan84 on July 29, 2004) | ||
| jagerphan84
Member Username: jagerphan84 Post Number: 75 Registered: 10-2003 |
Here's 'Phase 2' of my rig. I spent last evening with a hacksaw and some sandpaper... The damaged cab is back in working order and halfway decent cosmetic condition. Have a look:  An Epifani 210 is on its way here to supplement the setup. I'll snap another pic of Phase 3 once the Epi arrives on Monday. | ||
| bassman10096
Senior Member Username: bassman10096 Post Number: 536 Registered: 7-2003 |
Let us know how you like the sound. It ought to be nice. Bill | ||
| jagerphan84
Member Username: jagerphan84 Post Number: 76 Registered: 10-2003 |
Hmmm... Well, I must say, I wasn't expecting the Epifani to be so... HUGE! It is bigger, yet lighter than the 212. I feel compelled now to trade the 212 up to a 115 or 118 to more appropriately complement this Epi cab, but here is the rig in 'Phase 3' as it will stay until my bank account gets a chance to rest...  Thoughts? Comments? Laughter? All are welcome. | ||
| hollis
Advanced Member Username: hollis Post Number: 297 Registered: 11-2003 |
Ba-Boom! Looks like it sounds great! It does look a little top heavy.... Is it an optical illusion, or if you set the Epifani on its side is it a closer fit? For those who feel the need to tell you that the cabinet is on its side, a possible retort might be," That's so the people dancing on the walls can read the logo...."LOL | ||
| jagerphan84
Member Username: jagerphan84 Post Number: 77 Registered: 10-2003 |
It's no illusion, when on its side, the Epi is just slightly narrower than the 212 and the rack. Good eye. Despite a general lack of funding, I'm already looking into replacing this 212. I'm considering a custom EarCandy cab, does anyone here have any experience with these? I'm looking at a 212 loaded with dual Eminence Delta speakers (500W low frequency drivers). I'm thinking if it can be had for under $500, that would be a good deal for 1000W of bottom end. That oughta compete a little better with the Epifani. | ||
| bassman10096
Senior Member Username: bassman10096 Post Number: 543 Registered: 7-2003 |
Funny you should mention Earcandy...I just ran across them and spent some time on the phone with Tim, the owner (builder, promoter, etc...) of the company. He is a musician, sounds like a nice guy, prefers Eminence for bass and claims to have a design trick or two up his sleeve. I haven't heard his cabs nor even seen them. His 212 is similar in shape to the BagEnd - 28X18X16" - with the 12's side by side. Are you considering the "BassBomb" configuration with one Delta lf and a Gamma (800w)? or are you thinking of 2 Delta lf's (1000w). I'm intrigued by his notion that even w/o a tweeter, the Gamma brings in enough high end to a cab. His prices are attractive and his cabinet appointments (naughyde in sexy colors, etc is kind of cool). I'd be interested if anyone else around here has heard anything or tried an EarCandy cab. Another cabinet builder in the same price range with a similar, Eminence for bass philosophy is Dr Bass. I'm seriously considering having them build a 212 to match their 12/6/tweeter cab I've been playing. Unfortunately, their website is under construction, so all you can see is cabinet specs and prices (all much lower than the "names" - but offering good quality and the flexibility a small builder offers). Marc Serio is the owner - call him if you are interested. You'll find he's willing to help you figure out what you want and will build almost any driver configuration you ask for. The web address is drbasscabs.com. Bill | ||
| jagerphan84
Member Username: jagerphan84 Post Number: 78 Registered: 10-2003 |
I'm looking at dual Delta LF's. For gigs when the biamped rig is not necessary, I would just use the Epifani. When it's outdoors or just in need of some reinforcement, I'd use the 212 for the lows and the Epi for the highs. I was quoted $429 shipped to my door for my desired specs, and I think that I will be making the purchase later this week. I noticed in the specs for the Eminence Delta 12LF's that the usable frequency range is 45Hz-3kHz. Isn't that, for lack of a better word, kinda high? I thought low B was around 30Hz, and I would not want to spend so much on something that won't be able to blast out a low B without issue. Maybe some of our more acoustically-knowledgeable club members can help me out here. |
