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tcube
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Username: tcube

Post Number: 90
Registered: 8-2007
Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 12:54 pm:   Edit Post

Alembicists: I'd like to connect a compressor to my F1X. Do I use a stereo (tip/ring/sleeve) or a mono (tip/sleeve) cable? The Compressor is an FMR RNC1773.

Thanks!
mario_farufyno
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Username: mario_farufyno

Post Number: 744
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 7:49 am:   Edit Post

Considering it isn't a dual compressor, you can't compress diferently 2 channels (like from Neck and Bridge's Pick Ups). This means it will squash both input equaly and there is no need or use in sending 2 inputs to it, IMHO.

Alembic is not a real stereo, in the way of 2 channels being panned hard left and right to recreate dimensions of a soundscape. It provides outputs for each PU to process each diferently, but this makes sense only if you can process them diferently.

In a stereo compressor, both channels will be compressed equaly to keep L/R imaging consistent, so it seems that there will be no clear advantage feeding it with 2 channels. But I'm not a Series user (not even a F1 user), so it is possible that someone knows better how to use them in that fashion.
tcube
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Username: tcube

Post Number: 91
Registered: 8-2007
Posted on Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 9:43 am:   Edit Post

Hi Mario and thank you for your reply. I wasn't trying to compress my two pickups separately. Rather, my question had to do with using TRS (sometimes called a "stereo" cable) vs TS ("mono"). Turns out that TS will work fine. But thank you for your considered reply nonetheless.

Cheers,
gtrguy
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Username: gtrguy

Post Number: 400
Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 9:25 am:   Edit Post

I am recording with my F-1X and notice it is a lot more quiet when I use the front TRS output into my converter than the rear 1/4 jack.
tcube
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Username: tcube

Post Number: 94
Registered: 8-2007
Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 2:28 pm:   Edit Post

gtrguy, By TRS, I presume you mean the 3-prong XLR direct out. (It's the only output on the front panel.) That's a very useful piece of information! In a live performance I wonder if its possible/safe to feed that direct out to a power amp.
gtrguy
Senior Member
Username: gtrguy

Post Number: 405
Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2011 - 7:08 pm:   Edit Post

Yes, the mic cable front output. Should be fine into a power amp! I also have better mic cables than guitar ones and that may be why it's more quiet out the front.
willie
Advanced Member
Username: willie

Post Number: 205
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - 9:37 am:   Edit Post

TRS means Tip Ring Sleve. It is a 1/4" jack with 3 conductors. A tip Sleeve jack uses the shield as one of the conductors. TRS has 2 conductors plus the shield.
It can be used for 1/4' balanced applications.
The 3 pin direct out in the front is a low impedance output that is great for sending a signal to the front of house or sound man or going into a board for recording.
I use my DBX 160A compressor in the effects loop of the F-1X. Any time you are hooking up something that says the input or output is balanced, you should use a TRS cable. The reason the output from the front is more quiet is becauce it is a transformer isolated balanced low impedance output while the 1/4' full range and bi-amp outputs on the back are high impedance. Hope that helps.
Will

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