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gtrguy
Senior Member Username: gtrguy
Post Number: 543 Registered: 9-2004
| Posted on Monday, November 19, 2012 - 11:18 am: | |
I have a used series one pickup with warped edges. I was wondering if anyone had ever encountered this and might have a fix for it. I get a good reading on it with my meter. I am wondering if heating it a little at the edge and trying to straighten it might work or is there too much risk of messing up the internals? I bought it as part of a set this way and it was described correctly before I bought it. The other PUPs are OK. Thanks, Dave |
adriaan
Moderator Username: adriaan
Post Number: 2996 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Monday, November 19, 2012 - 12:13 pm: | |
They take some beating, don't they? |
terryc
Senior Member Username: terryc
Post Number: 2020 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Monday, November 19, 2012 - 12:27 pm: | |
Correct if I am wrong but Alembic PU's are epoxy castings, I doubt if heating them will make them pliable enough to straighten them as epoxy is not a thermoplastic. How the hell did they get in that condition???? |
afrobeat_fool
Senior Member Username: afrobeat_fool
Post Number: 479 Registered: 7-2009
| Posted on Monday, November 19, 2012 - 1:17 pm: | |
Hey, David. How are you enjoying all the rain? It's been a while. My thought is that you are going to have to shave the top of the casing so that it is level, and shim or epoxy the bottom till it is level. Mica will probably chime in soon. Good luck! Nick |
davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck
Post Number: 10944 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Monday, November 19, 2012 - 3:22 pm: | |
Terry; it must have been a really smokin' bass solo. |
jimmyj
Senior Member Username: jimmyj
Post Number: 421 Registered: 8-2008
| Posted on Monday, November 19, 2012 - 3:43 pm: | |
David, That twist is a result of our Series mounting screw system. Possibly due to over-tightening or maybe just slow reshaping from years of torque, like old window glass, or my garden wall... Two of our four mounting screws are below the pickup and two are above. These are adjusted together to raise, lower or tilt the pickup. (But not to twist the pickup!) Obviously the "below" screws were on the left corners in your pics. As long as the pickup is working this is just cosmetic. If you wanted to you could swap corners and put the short screws under the right sides... Maybe in 30 years it will flatten itself back out? Jimmy J |
gtrguy
Senior Member Username: gtrguy
Post Number: 544 Registered: 9-2004
| Posted on Monday, November 19, 2012 - 5:31 pm: | |
In 30 years maybe I will become a better bass player :>) It does look like a mechanical torque flaw with those stress striations running through the edge, doesn't it. I could put it on my bearing press and see if applied force to the edge might reverse the problem, but that might break it. Ahhh, it's a hunch-back!! or hump-edge, or... |
gtrguy
Senior Member Username: gtrguy
Post Number: 545 Registered: 9-2004
| Posted on Monday, November 19, 2012 - 5:33 pm: | |
BTW Nick, I hate this arfing rain. |
mica
Moderator Username: mica
Post Number: 7876 Registered: 6-2000
| Posted on Monday, November 19, 2012 - 6:06 pm: | |
The pickups are cast in polyurethane, which is also not thermoplastic. It does however exhibit another property of many plastics: creep. That's what you're seeing in response to pressure, it slowly deforms. Jimmy is right that if you reverse the mounting, it will encourage the creep in the other direction. If you leave it unmounted, there is no motivation for it to return to where it was, since it's not elastic. Those pickups look like they've had a rough life. The top picture it seems it's already been broken, the flange looks cracked on the left edge and the mounting screw hole looks less than complete. You only have to tighten the screws to be snug - this is a good example of one of the reasons to not overtighten the mounting. But of course the good news is that they still function. |
fc_spoiler
Senior Member Username: fc_spoiler
Post Number: 1414 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Monday, November 19, 2012 - 6:57 pm: | |
This is not from the set you got from me right? Any luck with those electronics yet? |
gtrguy
Senior Member Username: gtrguy
Post Number: 546 Registered: 9-2004
| Posted on Monday, November 19, 2012 - 10:42 pm: | |
Flip, it is another set I came across this summer. Yes, I am finally starting to work on the fretless project. Maybe by next spring it will be ready to play! Thanks to everyone for their help! Dave |
flpete1uw
Intermediate Member Username: flpete1uw
Post Number: 177 Registered: 11-2011
| Posted on Friday, May 03, 2013 - 11:26 am: | |
Hello David, Any luck on your Pickups? I have a similar issue with my Series Pickups, no broken corners just enough warp age to make the pickup height sit to high even when bottomed out. Being this is a gradual thing could the pickups be slowly coxed back into shape by removing them putting X # of lbs of weight on them on a flat surface? Pete |
gtrguy
Senior Member Username: gtrguy
Post Number: 610 Registered: 9-2004
| Posted on Saturday, May 04, 2013 - 11:55 am: | |
Hi Pete, I bet you are right. I have been too busy to do anything about it, but i should mount them in something and see if they will slowley resume the original shape. |
flpete1uw
Intermediate Member Username: flpete1uw
Post Number: 178 Registered: 11-2011
| Posted on Saturday, May 04, 2013 - 6:30 pm: | |
David, Excellent! If you do please let me know of any of your findings and I’ll do the same. I've been in the process of dialing in my 75 Series sound and going through the process of elimination. I'm thinking (Guessing more like it) that it might take a couple of weeks to settle in. Meanwhile I'll have the Mother ship do a check on the Mother board. This is all uncharted territory. The pickups as far as I can tell are fine. Onwards, Pete |
gtrguy
Senior Member Username: gtrguy
Post Number: 611 Registered: 9-2004
| Posted on Saturday, May 04, 2013 - 7:50 pm: | |
I think they have a reasonable flat rate to replace the board if it needs it, if I remember right. I have another set of series pickups too that I will be trying out in my series one project one of these days. I want to see if either set will work well with the original hum center pickup that I can not remove from the bass (it is really glued in there). The other two original pickups were long gone when I got it. http://alembic.com/club/messages/411/60995.html?1244649711 |
sonicus
Senior Member Username: sonicus
Post Number: 2895 Registered: 5-2009
| Posted on Saturday, May 04, 2013 - 8:01 pm: | |
That is the fretless from HEAVEN ! I love it _____ |
flpete1uw
Intermediate Member Username: flpete1uw
Post Number: 180 Registered: 11-2011
| Posted on Sunday, May 05, 2013 - 3:38 pm: | |
David, Wow! That fretless is pretty. She should be put back and singing ASAP. |
gtrguy
Senior Member Username: gtrguy
Post Number: 612 Registered: 9-2004
| Posted on Monday, May 06, 2013 - 10:34 am: | |
I know, and I have pretty much have all the parts, but I just have not had the time. Maybe this summer... |