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mumra
Junior
Username: mumra

Post Number: 48
Registered: 3-2010
Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2013 - 1:32 am:   Edit Post

Happy new year to all.Sorry for my english.I give my alembic bass to a "proffesional" for set up.I took back and I have the following:
1.the screws of the pickups are in the same side and not as usual like "X"(i hope to understand what i meen)
2.The strings touch the frets.I return to the store and says that the truss rod are in the end and he can't adjustment them more.So....he make the string distance (from frets)bigger and now I can;t play easy.What can I do.Maybe this is because the weather changes?
I hope to understanding the problem i have.Thanks a lot
cozmik_cowboy
Senior Member
Username: cozmik_cowboy

Post Number: 1367
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2013 - 8:59 am:   Edit Post

Sounds like your "professional" is anything but, Daffy. The best bet would be to do your own set-up; even if you've never done it before, Joey's instructions make it easy. Good luck, and have fun.

Peter
tncaveman
Intermediate Member
Username: tncaveman

Post Number: 146
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 4:56 am:   Edit Post

That is a bummer.

Not sure what he did to the pick ups - were they in the "X" before? Hopefully he did not mess them up.

And, if the truss rod is real tight, it will bow the neck back pretty badly. This is not good. Both of my Alembics barely have any force on the nuts on the truss rod. In fact, my fretless just barely has the nuts on.

Another possibility would be to use Joey's instructions coupled with several videos on bass set-up on You-Tube. And, if you have any bass or guitar friends, they could possibly help.

I'm pretty lucky. I know a good luthier and 2 really good guitar techs. Plus, I learned by watching and playing with a cheap MIM Jazz first.

Good Luck,

Stephen
mario_farufyno
Senior Member
Username: mario_farufyno

Post Number: 862
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 2:21 pm:   Edit Post

look for a real professional, that guy is giving you excuses for his lack of knowledge
mumra
Junior
Username: mumra

Post Number: 49
Registered: 3-2010
Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks to all.I hope for not have any problem from the "pro" hands.
mumra
Junior
Username: mumra

Post Number: 50
Registered: 3-2010
Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post

I will upload some photos from pickup and from the truss rods in the next hours. tncaveman i used to have an excellent professional but the crisis in Greece push him to close the store and then I can't find him.
mumra
Member
Username: mumra

Post Number: 51
Registered: 3-2010
Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post

I am so frightened if my europa have any problem now.If you could help me with instructions for unload and reload the pickup (to put the screws in the correct side) and for the truss rod adjustment (I'll try alone with the Joeys instructions.Also the tech man said that the truss rod not responding more.Sorry if I become annoying.
tbrannon
Senior Member
Username: tbrannon

Post Number: 1539
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 6:05 am:   Edit Post

for the pickups- two of the screws go UNDER the pickups on opposite corners. The other two go on top of the pickups on opposite corners.

So- remove all 4 screws, lift up the pickup and insert two of the screws diagonally across from one another. These will set the height of the pickup. Then, place the pickup on top of those screws and use the last two screws on the other 2 corners to tighten the pickup down against the height setting screws. Be careful to not tighten them down too much- you don't want to break the plastic housing of the pickup.

In terms of the truss rods- can you see thread remaining on the truss rod or are they tightened all the way up?
keith_h
Senior Member
Username: keith_h

Post Number: 1831
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 6:30 am:   Edit Post

If you are loosening the truss rod to get more relief (i.e. forward bow) it can take a day or two for the neck to settle into position.

All of my Alembic basses respond differently to loosening the truss rods. My Brown Bass is very responsive, my Series 1 takes a day to settle and my fretless Orion can take a day or two. When tightening the changes are are almost immediate (as I would expect).

In addition to following Joey's setup I would start by loosening the truss rod nuts fully. After that just tighten them until they touch the adjusting plate. Leave the bass alone for a day or two to let the neck reset to it's natural relief. After this start the setup. I use a Fender Heavy pick as a gauge and use it to set my relief at the 7th fret. With that I usually set my string height at the 24th fret to about 1.5 millimeters.

What type of strings are you using? Some people use a very light gauge that does not have enough tension to pull the neck forward. If you are using a very light gauge set I would try to use a set that goes .045 to .105, .128 if a 5 string, to see if that helps.

Keith
mumra
Member
Username: mumra

Post Number: 52
Registered: 3-2010
Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 9:35 am:   Edit Post

Thanks fro the answers.I use 45-105 rotosound stainless steel
mumra
Member
Username: mumra

Post Number: 53
Registered: 3-2010
Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post











Some photos

(Message edited by mica on January 04, 2013)
mumra
Member
Username: mumra

Post Number: 54
Registered: 3-2010
Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post

keith_h
Senior Member
Username: keith_h

Post Number: 1832
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post

Do you see screws under the two open holes of the pickup?

If you do what you need to do is to swap positions of the screws on one side of the pickup. The two screws underneath the pick up should be on a diagonal and the two screws on top should be on a diagonal.

Keith
adriaan
Moderator
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 3005
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 2:37 pm:   Edit Post

How did it play before the "professional" setup? If it was better then, then you will be able to return the bass to that point.
mumra
Member
Username: mumra

Post Number: 55
Registered: 3-2010
Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2013 - 1:42 am:   Edit Post

The bass plays excellent before. Finally i found my old bass tech and the next week I will go it to him.
Thanks to all dudes
mumra
Member
Username: mumra

Post Number: 56
Registered: 3-2010
Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2013 - 1:14 am:   Edit Post

Finally I check my europa with my old real professional and everything it's ok.Thanks to all.
mario_farufyno
Senior Member
Username: mario_farufyno

Post Number: 886
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2013 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post

glad to know

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