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Author Message trekster Junior Username: trekster Post Number: 24 Registered: 7-2004 Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 5:53 am:    I also use a Bass Pod (thinking of upgrading to an XT in the near future)..mostly because I want the SVT tone w/o having to drag a SVT beast around. As for effects, I have 2 set in the Pod -- the Octave Divider for a couple of Hendrix tunes that I like the 8-string sound on, and the Flanger for the bass part on Comfortably Numb -- it's not like the original, but that slow sweep really gets noticed. --T alanbass1 Junior Username: alanbass1 Post Number: 38 Registered: 4-2005 Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 5:09 am:    Do you find the Bass POD does the SVT thing convincely? I have tried the POD XT for guitar and always felt it could not really get the warmth, clarity and definition of the Valve amps it was trying to emulate; it got a lot closer using a valve power amp but then..... Anyhow, as the SVT is all valve just wondered how close it got. 811952 Advanced Member Username: 811952 Post Number: 392 Registered: 10-2003 Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 6:51 am:    I find it's quite acceptable for live gigs, but then I also have been using all-tube power. I used to know a guy who could reliably pick out whether or not gold connectors were being used in the patch panel of a certain recording studio by sound alone, and you may be one of those specially-gifted people. My ears aren't THAT good by a long shot, so I may be missing some heinous butchering of the signal. If it's any help, here is the url listing people who use Line6 stuff: http://www.line6.com/artists.html john bsee Senior Member Username: bsee Post Number: 884 Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 7:44 am:    The XT is much more real sounding to me than the original. That said, it doesn't have a matching set of presets to the original. I haven't played with programming it, but I don't think it has the same set of effects. If you're using the original, I'd strongly recommend doing an A/B test with the XT. I wonder when the next generation is coming? alanbass1 Junior Username: alanbass1 Post Number: 40 Registered: 4-2005 Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 1:56 pm:    I don't think I have any particular gift with sound, just that the POD I played through with a guitar just did not have the body, depth and warmth that either my Victoria or Badcat has. It seemed to get worse at gig volumes where it remained quite thin sounding in comparision to the fatness of a valve going into compression. Also, they lacked that almost three dimensional sound that I get out of my valve amps when they hit the sweet spot. I'm not saying they are bad units, just that they did not seem to do a particularly good job at emulating how valves behave, which is why I wondered about the SVT setting on the bass POD. I'm guessing that the solid state bass amp emulations can pretty much be spot on. hb3 Junior Username: hb3 Post Number: 27 Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 3:33 pm:    I have a pod pro and never muched like it...thin. I suppose in part because I'm used to the uber-phat Aguilar pre and power amp. Plugging into the pod after that is just a big bummer. I bought one of those Digitech floor pedals with digital modeling and digital recorder -- I liked it, surprisingly. It was cheap, too, and I guess discontinued. I may be the only bass player on the planet to buy one. I also bought the Digitech Hendrix pedal off the recommendation on another thread. Not bad, but I feel somewhat like a dork. "Look, ma, I'm Jimi Hendrix!" But ok, I guess. I used to hate Digitech's products, but I can now have fun with their stuff, at least. 811952 Advanced Member Username: 811952 Post Number: 393 Registered: 10-2003 Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 9:07 am:    Come to think of it, I did find the Pod to be relatively without deep bottom when I first got it. I don't consider that a *fault* of the unit, but moreso simply a personality. I've been using tube power exclusively of late, usually through a Peavey 210 cabinet. I usually end up rolling-off some of the bottom by the time all is said and done, so I figure it's more of a "tuning it to the room" than anything else. I had similar experience with my old F2-B, in that real control of the deep lows doesn't appear to be something designed into the system and is best achieved by having a well-voiced cabinet or two (or four) and possibly an additional eq or BBE (do they still make the pedal? That was sweet). And, of course, a massively massive all-tube industrial monoblock from the '50s or '60s just makes *everything* sound better and shake more. I've gotta take some pictures of those things and post them so you guys can all see what a true equipment slore I really am... ;) John gare Intermediate Member Username: gare Post Number: 194 Registered: 11-2003 Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 6:29 am:    Friday night I saw a band that the guitar players were using Tonelab modelers, and they sounded great. I would have swore that everything was coming from what appeared to be Vox AC30's on stage. In reality it was a couple of repo Vox cabinets and the guitarists shared a stereo power amp. Now if they could come up with something that sounded as good for bass.... Gary trekster Junior Username: trekster Post Number: 25 Registered: 7-2004 Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 5:11 am:    Alanbass-- yes, I do get a convincing SVT sound out of my Pod, but I do it in a very strange way. I run the output from the pod to my Carvin head, and that out to my two Hartke Cabs (1x15, 2x10). Originally, I meant just to use the Carvin for the bi-amped 400 watts of power, but I found that plugging the output of the Pod into the guitar input instead of the bypass, running everything flat except for the bass boost switch turned on gave me the low end response I felt was lacking from the POD. --T 811952 Advanced Member Username: 811952 Post Number: 395 Registered: 10-2003 Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 5:57 am:    Gary, Guitarists *sharing* an amp, albeit a stereo power amp, must surely be one of the signs of the pending apocalypse. Either that, or you made it up... ;) John gare Intermediate Member Username: gare Post Number: 196 Registered: 11-2003 Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 7:53 am:    Nope John..it's for real. Most of their sound was FOH,the cabinets on stage were more or less monitors. Their on stage sound level was pretty low. I think we should just go with the apocalypse theory..what next ? Bass players trading off on guitar ? Being asked to sing ? (gasp!) Playing one of those instruments with the black and white thingys you press down to make noise ? Where will it all end ? exploiterplayer Junior Username: exploiterplayer Post Number: 39 Registered: 12-2002 Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 7:00 am:    I use a Trace Elliott SMX Dual Compressor with my Trace Elliott 1210H (4x10 300 watt combo) Compression really just helps to keep a consistant volume level from note to note. Which is very helpful to finger style players who dig in a little harder on certain riffs. I've played around with bass multi effects units but I have no use for them professionally. alanbass1 Member Username: alanbass1 Post Number: 59 Registered: 4-2005 Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 9:44 am:    Well, I got a pair of Moogerfoogers over the weekend, the MF-101 low pass filter and the MF-102 Ring Modulator. I got them as they were so much fun and just sooo funky it's unreal. Will I have much use for them at gigs, probably not without completely hacking off the band, but I'm sure going to use them for recording. I have just got a close approximation to the old 'Doctor Who' sound on guitar, but it's with bass that these puppies really shine. mint_bass Advanced Member Username: mint_bass Post Number: 256 Registered: 1-2004 Posted on Friday, May 13, 2005 - 9:24 am:    i have been looking into getting a digitech whammy for a while i have just ordered a digitech bass synth wah which i look forward to toying with. what do you juys think of the whammmy pedal for bass also do they make a bass specific version. have any of you heard the mad capsule markets the bass player uses an effect i think maybe a whammy pedal anyone know? Other than my new synth wah i use a marshall distortion which i am not thrilled with a dan o wah pedal which is okay but i will replace soon with a dunlop and my amp has a built in octiver type thing which is cool. Different notes cause different objects to vibrate in the room which is good fun a low B just about shakes my house down. andrew rockbassist Junior Username: rockbassist Post Number: 44 Registered: 8-2005 Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 9:40 pm:    I also play guitar as well as keys and have never used effects on bass. I just don't find it necessary unless you are playing in a band where you are the sometimes the lead instrument. I have seen many bassists who think that they have to keep up with guitarists who have tons of pedals. Many of them end up destroying the song and their original intent by over using efects and over playing. I'm not implying that this is the case with you. Afterall, you are intelligent enough to play Alembic. Anyway as a rule, in most bands we are not the lead instrument yet when we see people bobbing their heads, tapping their feet or dancing, whether they realize it or not they are doing so because of the bass line. I have always looked at my role in several ways. First of all, if I am playing with a solo artist, my job is to make him/her look good. Be prepared and don't be a dick. Do what they need you to do. Secondly, I have always looked at a song as a living breathing thing. The guitar, keys and vocals are it's personality. The bass and drums are it's heartbeat and respiration. Therefore we give it life. I don't feel that effects are necessary to give something life. I like a clean punchy tone similar to Marcus Miller. Even though my influences include Marcus, as well as many other styles like Paul McCartney, James Jamerson, Jack Bruce, John Entwistle, John Deacon, Phil Lynott, Gene Simmons, Geddy Lee and others. I have played everything from 60's and 70's rock to one hit wonders, rock and hair bands of the early 1980's original blues and country. I cannot say that any one is my favorite but I have never used effects on bass. slammer New Username: slammer Post Number: 4 Registered: 3-2006 Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 9:33 pm:    I play with brianstatik; we are an electronic progband. i use an Eventide eclipse. Many times it doesn't even sould like a bass, better than MIDI real time tracking! I run a wet and dry channel, so I can decide how out there I want to be on the fly. davehouck Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 3417 Registered: 5-2002 Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 9:55 pm:    Jim; I'm listening to some of your mp3 samples. Very nice! olieoliver Member Username: olieoliver Post Number: 60 Registered: 2-2006 Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:44 pm:    I've used some light effects in the past put I'm more of a straight signal man. I have nothing against effects just not my bag. bigredbass Senior Member Username: bigredbass Post Number: 661 Registered: 9-2002 Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 11:23 pm:    This ever happen to you? Buy effect just like this week's bass hero uses. Got all stoked up on a Pino Palladino/Paul Young article, just HAD to have a BOSS octave box like PP uses. Guess what? I'm no Pino Palladino and nothing I play sounds even half-way right once I fire up the thing! Learned 'Burn Your Playhouse Down': Never played it, the band could've cared less . . . J o e y bassdr Member Username: bassdr Post Number: 51 Registered: 10-2004 Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 6:26 am:    I really like my EBS octabass, it gives me lower notes than a 4 string without having to go to a 5 and is super clean- Michael (Flame Koa Essence) jazzyvee Advanced Member Username: jazzyvee Post Number: 396 Registered: 6-2002 Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 11:59 pm:    I recently bought a Line 6 Pod XT Live for guitar. It generally goes against my preference for analogue pedals due to their warmer sound than digital. Really I got it hoping I would get a more consistent live sound when on tour based on the idea that their modelling amps would be reasonably authentic and I could just use the backline amp as just a poweramp. However so far having tweaked with the sounds I have yet to find anything that gives any warmth, that inherent feeling of power nor the clarity I was hoping for. I still find it a bit thin and buzzy and over processed for the overdriven, distortion sounds. With a clean setting it's very digital especially in the higher register the sound is almost unnatural for a guitar sound. I have a gripe about these digital boxes not giving a straight bypass of the digital processing and this is no difference. In my analogue board I have a Boss line switcher to keep my effects out of line till I need them. I plan to try the Line6 with that over the weekend and also use the blend setting which should basically give me a wet and dry mix of effect and clean guitar which I hope will keep the clarity of my Orion guitar and I can add as much of the XT Live as I feel neccessary. I have a mate who has the rack version and swears by it..... so far I've only swore at it. Its not horrendous but sounds very digital. I'll have to spend a bit more time trying to tweak the settings to get some some warmth out of it. Failing that you may see it on ebay... lol I still don't think digital is there yet with effects pedals but its better than it used to be. I tried the Boss GT8 I think it was..... .... hmm didn't blow my socks off but is marginally better than the GT6. (I have a preference for tube amps and have a fender twin which I love, although its in repair at the moment). Anyone had any success with it? Any tips for getting warmth. I only plan to use my Alembic on the road this year so experience with Alembic guitars would be good. I have yet to try my strats through it. ps: is the display visible under bright sunlight or bright stage lighting? Jazzyvee bigredbass Senior Member Username: bigredbass Post Number: 733 Registered: 9-2002 Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 3:56 pm:    I recently STOLE a NIB Aphex 661 TubeEssence compressor. Had resigned myself to a DBX 160A and then I found this. Really digging it as it has an automatic mode which 'follows' you from thumb to fingers to pick, pretty handy. Or you can adjust the 4 controls separately in a manual mode to really fine-tune for a given attack. It seems strange to wait for the tube to warm up before it's ready. I was surprised as I have fairly even attack. Especially how it tended to tighten up the low Cs and Ds and to pull up the dreaded dead spots on some of my other axes. I'm in line for the new TC G-Sharp: Dual engine, Rev/Effects, and an all-knob faceplate: I hate trying to scroll through a bunch of pages in a panic. I always wanted to add invisible compression, a light chorus in spots, and a very light reverb to my sound. I bought a great bass and amp, and wanted that final bit of 'studio seasoning' to finish out my sound. I hope I'm fixing to FINALLY be there. J o e y lbpesq Senior Member Username: lbpesq Post Number: 1211 Registered: 7-2004 Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 5:01 pm:    Joey: As a fellow suffer of G.A.S., I can assure you that you will NEVER be "there". For once you actually get there, "there" becomes "here" and, guess what? There's a NEW "there" there! Enjoy the compressor and rock on! Bill, tgo davehouck Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 3610 Registered: 5-2002 Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 6:00 pm:    Joey; I use a TC reverb/effects unit, which I like a lot. All knob controls sounds great; I'll have to check it out. bsee Senior Member Username: bsee Post Number: 1132 Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 7:12 pm:    I am really liking my POG now. Makes for a very nice 8-string sound and can do some more wacky things if you're into that. I just use it in a 3-piece setup to get a fuller tone on some tunes. dubalbal Intermediate Member Username: dubalbal Post Number: 175 Registered: 10-2004 Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 1:22 am:    Hi Folks , ...just a little word to say that i bought a few month ago the TC electronic G-SYSTEM , originally made for guitar . In fact , these are kind of studio effects that suits bass too . The presets are tailored for guitar but when u build your own sound , it's really great tool ! Great choruses , delays , reverbs , parametric eq ...everything but distortions...I'm really happy with it ! The only limitation is the tuner , it doesn't match the E+A strings...with the harmonics it's ok however . I also uses a ebs octaver . I ' m also intersted in the ebs valve drive pedal as , i still need to try it ! ALAIN jlpicard Senior Member Username: jlpicard Post Number: 421 Registered: 7-2002 Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 7:39 pm:    To all those out there considering Digitech pedals etc. I used to work for them as a Sound test tech. It was my job to make sure they worked as advertised before they went out the door. As an employee, I got to buy anything I wanted for cost! I could never bring myself to buy a single thing! Need I say more? (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) paulembic Junior Username: paulembic Post Number: 16 Registered: 6-2004 Posted on Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 9:15 am:    My current board/chain rig is: Boss Volume Boss Distortion/Bass overdrive Morley bass wah MuTron III Digitech synth wah Digitech Whammy II Boss Chorus Boss Flanger Boss Tremelo Moog Bass Murf Digitech Compressor Boss octave Boss Loop Station Boss reverb/delay a Morley A/B switch fopr multiple basses then a rack tuner, power conditioner, my Alembic pre amp. All mogami, monster cables might add more distortion options this year. I used to run the effects only through the treble pickup and ran true stereo-two amps- but I soon will run them mono to a crossover and two cabinets.. this way the Moog, Mutron, synthwah, and other effects sound much richer. Alembic custom 8-string (The Riff King) and soon a 4 string series II (OhMyGa) plus a custom fretless..all stereo BTW I have even more crap for my electric guitars. Over twenty years of simplification and enhancement, improvement and trial, trial, error, error... jazzyvee Senior Member Username: jazzyvee Post Number: 695 Registered: 6-2002 Posted on Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 12:36 am:    I'm not a fan of bass effects live although I had considered using a compressor on my bass rig at one point, but was talked out of it by a forum member so for now I'm clean and controlling dynamics myself. It's good to know the sound I get is just my fingers and my bass. My experience with effects on guitars over the years has led me to be very disappointed with digital devices. I bought a Line6 XTPro live last year for my guitar as I was getting a variety of guitar rigs whilst touring and wanted to get a make sure I was getting a constent tone. They are good at what they do but you do sacrifice so much of the natural sound of the instrument. To keep this to a minimum, I use a line switcher to keep the XT out of the signal path till I need an effect. Then I add it to my clean guitar sound rather than have just the processed guitar sound. That way I keep the clarity of the natural guitar sound. This year I am considering going back to using the analogue stomp boxes as I've managed to arrange for a specific guitar amp which means I should be able to get what I want soundwise. I can't see that I would use bass effects live at all. But then it's not required in the music I do for bass. Jazzyvee hodge New Username: hodge Post Number: 9 Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 12:02 pm:    does anybody have any views on the boss bass overdrive pedal. paulembic Junior Username: paulembic Post Number: 17 Registered: 6-2004 Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 12:15 pm:    Boss bass overdrive... I have one and love it. But the real discussion might need to go deeper... do you want valve overdrive? valve gain? distortion/overdrive? fuzz? scooped? dark/.dirty or buzzy like a mixer line overdrive? with tonal/filter sweeps? Depending on hwo much noise you like you can end up with several effects. My equally-massive guitar pedal board has a Line 6 distortion modeler (gold, three switch one)and many of its sounds are great on bass, too. To my ears. good luck lowlife Advanced Member Username: lowlife Post Number: 252 Registered: 12-2003 Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 12:41 pm:    The built-in compressor that is on my Eden WT-800 is bypassed, so the only effect I use is an Eleectro-Harminix Baseballs, for that "Bootsy' type sound. Everything else is me & my fingers. Ellery (Lowlife) hodge New Username: hodge Post Number: 10 Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Friday, January 26, 2007 - 9:28 am:    many thanks to paulembic for his input,i shall be ordering the pedal as soon as. kimberly New Username: kimberly Post Number: 8 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Friday, February 02, 2007 - 3:14 pm:    Kimberly joining in. As a bass soloist I use the following. Boss RC-50 looper. Roland GR-20 synth. (I make pretty good use of the different voices that give me the means of offering a 'variety' of sounds to keep stuff from sounding too much alike and thusly boring.) Lastly, an old school Roland GS-6 for a touch of reverb/delay/chorus. Very handy when playing a tune 'stand alone' to give the tone more texture/color. As well, I use the overdrive/distortion on selected tunes when playing a 'unique', or distinctive sounding guitar part, say for example, American Woman. To date my most 'complex' tune is five separate parts on the looper and four separate voices (I thought it was five but I just counted them and it's four) with the synth. On a War tune I use; The 'standard' bass line (no synth) A guitar 'type' rhythm (no synth) Cow bell (synth) Tamborine (synth) Conga 'sqeaks' (synth) All looping away until lastly, a 'full blown' synth voicing for melody and lead. Fun stuff. By the way, I do everything instrumentally, (never did like to sing) so it is important to be able to 'use the technology' and be able to provide the variety to keep the crowd 'wowed' and happy. Crazy huh? ;) Kimberly wibbersengland New Username: wibbersengland Post Number: 2 Registered: 5-2007 Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 4:53 pm:    I use a TC Electronic G-system with Boss line pedal to mix the TC with the 'clean' amp sound, and powr a Boss TU2 TUNER AS i LIKE THIS MORE THAN THE tc TUNER and an Ashdown subharmonic pedal all neatly housed in a smallish flight pedal board. the tc quality is 'there' (ie. awesome)! the_mule Senior Member Username: the_mule Post Number: 664 Registered: 1-2004 Posted on Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 12:19 am:    (Message edited by the_mule on May 20, 2007) the_mule Senior Member Username: the_mule Post Number: 665 Registered: 1-2004 Posted on Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 12:19 am:    My standard rig: Bass -> Alembic SF-2 Superfilter (preamp, mono) -> Glockenklang The Passenger <-> EBS Dynaverb (effectloop) Wilfred muller1007 Intermediate Member Username: muller1007 Post Number: 172 Registered: 5-2002 Posted on Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 2:04 am:    My current rig: Series 1 DS-5R SF-2 EBS Fafner amplifier Korg DTR-2000 Furman power conditioner EBS DynaVerb EBS UniChorus EBS OctaBass I'm considering putting in a multi-effects unit. Duncan olieoliver Senior Member Username: olieoliver Post Number: 1343 Registered: 2-2006 Posted on Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 6:49 am:    I recently purchased a Line-6 Bass Pod XT Live and must admit I am having a world of fun with it. In fact after playing through it I got out my old rack and hooked it up. My rack has a Yamaha SPX-90,(one of the first), Alesis 3630 Dual Compressor, and a BBE 362 Sonic Maximizer. All 3 of these processors are around 15 years old but still work and sound good. I just added a F1X to this rack. Getting some cool sounds. Olie olieoliver Senior Member Username: olieoliver Post Number: 1344 Registered: 2-2006 Posted on Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 7:10 am:    Correction for above, my BBE is a 462 not a 362. keurosix Intermediate Member Username: keurosix Post Number: 185 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 1:36 pm:    In my rack I have an ancient deltalabs Effectron II that I use for doubling, sometimes a delay or chorus for my fretless bass. IMO,the fretless really needs a touch of chorus to open it up. Besides that, I don't use it for my fretted basses. Kris gare Advanced Member Username: gare Post Number: 400 Registered: 11-2003 Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 9:51 am:    About a month ago I picked up a slightly used Bass Pod XT Pro..very handy unit. Since we play a vast variety of songs, it comes in handy to pre program sounds per song. The main modeled sound goes to the FOH and direct to my Mark Bass/Schroeder, also have a BBE unit patched in. My only complaint with the unit is the octave divider, doesnt track well, so when needed I still use a Boss OC-3. Try the Hiway 200 with some sub octave mixed in..a nice full Cheap Trick'y kind of sound. A good thing, using the Pod I've eliminated the pedalboard, although I'm also using an FBV Express pedal to change sounds. Most of the effects are pretty usable,the only problem I have is that you can tweak forever and always find new usable sounds. And I'll have to go along with Kris, fretless does sound nicer with a touch of chorus. Gare dannobasso Senior Member Username: dannobasso Post Number: 550 Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 2:16 pm:    My band recently went from 5 pc to 4 (which I rather enjoy), back to my roots so to speak. I just picked up a Boss ME-50B unit. I want a simple stompbox type of all in one unit to add a few sounds during certain intros and during the guitar solos. I have to fiddle with it but I think it will be ok. It has comp/limit, master section, drive/synth, delay/mod and expression pedal. In the studio I sometimes use the POD XT for demos when an SVT vibe is called for. olieoliver Senior Member Username: olieoliver Post Number: 1376 Registered: 2-2006 Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 2:24 pm:    This thread elaborates more on this topic. mario_farufyno Junior Username: mario_farufyno Post Number: 29 Registered: 9-2008 Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 2:21 pm:    My rig is running this way: Alembic Rogue (4 string Bass) ZVex Wooly Mamoth (Fuzz) Boss LS-2 Line Selector (A/B box with individual volume pots) *(I used it to keep an Boss Octaver OC-3 and a Dunlop Bass Wha aparted from the main chain) Eletro Harmonix Q-Tron (envelope filter) Ampeg SVT-III Pro (head) Epifani UL-210 (cabinet) benson_murrensun Member Username: benson_murrensun Post Number: 72 Registered: 5-2007 Posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 12:24 pm:    I use effects only occasionally. When I use them, I run the bass into a Radial Tonebone Switchbone which has two effects loops that can be switched totally out of the chain. One loop is for an Electro Harmonix BassBalls dual filter. The other loop goes to a Yamaha Nathan East parametric EQ thingee, which gives many variations on the mid-scoop sound. In the line are also a Boss Bass Parametric EQ pedal and a SansAmp Bass Driver (for overdrive and DI). chris_star New Username: chris_star Post Number: 2 Registered: 12-2008 Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 11:41 am:    Hey folks, I have been tossing around the idea of getting that radial bassbone. would anyone recommend this? I am in a tribute band to the music of the Who and think I need an overdrive/distortation pedal and possibly a chorus pedal. I believe this is what i'm hearing on some of the live performances of John's. Is this correct? Can anyone offer some suggestions. I currently use a Epic 4, Trace Elliot SMX GP12 head, partnered with a SWR Triad cab. davehouck Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 7273 Registered: 5-2002 Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 2:39 pm:    Chris, there are several Entwistle experts on the board. Most folks don't read all the messages everyday; but I expect at some point someone while chime in on what was used on which song. terryc Senior Member Username: terryc Post Number: 659 Registered: 11-2004 Posted on Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 6:56 am:    Chris..there are plenty of bass OD/Fuzz units made by Boss etc. I would take your bass AND amp to your local store to test them, the reason I say take you own gear is because a) They may not have your specific gear b) Your bass will be set up for you c) testing effects through gear you don't know may not give the results you want thru' your own bass & amp. If your gear is too big to get to the store then at least take your own bass and use an amp with all the tone settings set at neutral best of luck with the hunt. mario_farufyno Junior Username: mario_farufyno Post Number: 46 Registered: 9-2008 Posted on Sunday, December 28, 2008 - 7:40 pm:    It seems that Ox was always a "rig freak": http://www.thewho.net/whotabs/equipment/bass/equip-entwistlegear.html benson_murrensun Member Username: benson_murrensun Post Number: 79 Registered: 5-2007 Posted on Saturday, January 03, 2009 - 1:25 pm:    I just got a Boss SYB5 Bass Synth pedal. Prior to the playing session I was trying to find a usable starting point on the pedal, and I gave everybody in the room a headache (including me) within 10 minutes (it wasn't even that loud - just obno). It seems the effect settings are very extreme, and in order to find a usable sound I had to set the effect volume very low in relation to the un-effected volume. I want a sound that still sounds like a bass, only gnarlier. Anybody got any suggestions? jbybj Intermediate Member Username: jbybj Post Number: 193 Registered: 6-2006 Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2009 - 8:11 pm:    I recently picked up an EHX micro POG, polyphonic octave generator. Three knobs, source level, sub octave level, and octave above level, you can blend them as you please. I really like the thickness it provides, and it tracks extremely well. With a little distortion before, and a little chorus, envelope, or flange after, it can get, what I would call, "gnarly". Still in a very bass-centric, musical fashion. I was especially pleased with the way it integrated in a jam setting. So often we can fiddle around with effects on our own, only to find they don't play well with others. The Micro POG is my favorite new sound. jacko Senior Member Username: jacko Post Number: 2047 Registered: 10-2002 Posted on Monday, January 05, 2009 - 4:39 am:    I've just bought a Bass Big Muff pi and I'm very impressed with it. I've been able to get a pretty accurate 'chris wolstenholme - hysteria' style distortion. I've over the moon about this as up till now I've been trying to achieve distortion using an EBS multidrive but that just didn't give the right kind of buzz. I also have a mini Q tron and an EBS chorus in the effects chain - can't think of anything else I'd need. Graeme dnburgess Senior Member Username: dnburgess Post Number: 584 Registered: 1-2003 Posted on Monday, January 05, 2009 - 2:37 pm:    Graeme - other distortion units that I particularly like are the Demeter Fuzzulator and Fulltone Bass Drive. slawie Junior Username: slawie Post Number: 37 Registered: 8-2002 Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 10:04 pm:    I split my treble signal with a Chorus and compress the bass signal into a dual input amp. Series one preamp and power supply played on a fretless. benson_murrensun Member Username: benson_murrensun Post Number: 89 Registered: 5-2007 Posted on Friday, January 16, 2009 - 8:29 am:    I would like to throw in some kudos to the Yamaha NE-1 tone-shaping device, sometimes known as the Nathan East Magic Box. This thing is a highly adjustable mid-scoop circuit, which seems to work even better than the aural enhancer found on such amps as SWR and Eden, offering additional clarity to the sound. Plus it is all shiny chrome with chicken-head knobs.... hankster Intermediate Member Username: hankster Post Number: 189 Registered: 6-2004 Posted on Friday, January 16, 2009 - 8:39 pm:    I stand by the Q-Tron. I use some other stuff, but that is my favourite.. Rick jacko Senior Member Username: jacko Post Number: 2067 Registered: 10-2002 Posted on Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 5:23 am:    Here's my board as it stands just now. The big black box is the Eden navigator footswitch and I'm not using the board's inbuilt power supply (after a blue flash one gig). This all sits in the navigator's side chain so I can control how much effect gets blended into the dry signal. I also have an Aphex Bass Xciter between the bass and the amp. I absolutely hate the eden enhance sound so never have it switched on. Graeme georgie_boy Senior Member Username: georgie_boy Post Number: 641 Registered: 8-2005 Posted on Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 7:10 am:    Graeme Did I run through all of that at the Scottish Reunion?? Must confess though.............I LOVE the Eden Enhance Sound!! Horses for courses! G jacko Senior Member Username: jacko Post Number: 2068 Registered: 10-2002 Posted on Monday, January 19, 2009 - 1:39 am:    Just the 2 EBS pedals george - Chorus and Overdrive. I didn't have the Qtron or big muff that long ago. Once we get the next reunion on the go you'll be able to click away to your heart's content. Graeme wibbersengland Junior Username: wibbersengland Post Number: 17 Registered: 5-2007 Posted on Friday, January 01, 2010 - 11:16 am:    Hi all, I ditched a run of boss pedals for tcelectronic g-system for use with my alembic and other basses. I hooked it up with a boss line selector to mix a 'clean sound' with tc sound - the quality is awesome (especially with a series bass!!) as tc arguably make the best effects in the world currently.