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rv_bass
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Username: rv_bass

Post Number: 2
Registered: 8-2014
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - 5:59 am:   Edit Post

Hi,

I recently purchased an Alembic and have never used active electronics in a bass. There is a volume, pan, and tone, which I think is a low pass filter. I'm just used to cutting and boosting bass and treble on my amp (Eden WT550), so I was wondering if you may have some tips on how to properly use the low pass tone filter. I've been fooling around with it, but don't really have a good understanding of what it's actually doing. Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks very much,
Rob
lbpesq
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Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 5813
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - 8:13 am:   Edit Post

Rob:

Welcome to the club and congrats on your new Alembic. The active electronics are indeed a different animal. Many find there is a learning curve, but once you get it you'll be able to dial in a wide spectrum of tones. The LPF cuts off frequencies higher than where it is set, while allowing all lower frequencies to pass on to the amp. My advice is to set you amp EQ flat and start playing around with the LPF. You will find that even a tiny adjustment can make a big difference. Have fun.

Bill, the guitar one
keith_h
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Username: keith_h

Post Number: 2056
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post

Rob,
What Bill said. What model of bass did your get? Knowing this we can point you to more specific information. I use an Eden Navigator. I generally start with it flat and use it's controls to tune the rig to the room I am playing in. I then rely upon the bass controls for setting my tone. If I still can't get what I'm looking for I will tweak the Navigator to fine tune things but it doesn't

We like pictures so feel free to take some and post them under you instrument type in the Showcase.

Lastly the FAQ and Must Reads has a lot of information about the care and feeding of your new Alembic along with discussions like Joey's set up procedure, background on filters, controls, etc.

Keith
rv_bass
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Username: rv_bass

Post Number: 3
Registered: 8-2014
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - 6:32 pm:   Edit Post

Bill and Keith,

Thanks very much for your replies, very helpful. I have a 2005 Orion bass. I played a little tonight with the amp flat and was able to dial in a nice tone that I liked using the pickup phase and LPF controls on the bass. There is such a wide range of sounds that you can get out of this bass, it's pretty amazing really. I see a lot of fun ahead! I'll check out the FAQ/Must Read sections as well.

Thanks,

Rob
keith_h
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Username: keith_h

Post Number: 2058
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2014 - 5:41 am:   Edit Post

Rob,
I started with an Orion too. Now I own four Alembics. Like yours mine has the upgrade to Essence electronics. Since buying it I have added a Q-switch. What it does is turn on and off a boost at the frequency where the filter is set. If I recall correctly the default without the switch is the boost is always on. I would suggest looking into it down the road as it is not an expensive upgrade and fairly easy to install.

Keith
rv_bass
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Username: rv_bass

Post Number: 4
Registered: 8-2014
Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2014 - 6:54 pm:   Edit Post

Hi Keith,

Thanks for the Q-switch suggestion, I'll look into it. Can you tell me; what advantage is there for being able to turn off the boost?

Thanks,
Rob
rv_bass
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Username: rv_bass

Post Number: 5
Registered: 8-2014
Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2014 - 6:55 pm:   Edit Post

Hi Keith,

Thanks for the Q-switch suggestion, I'll look into it. Can you tell me; what advantage is there to being able to turn off the boost?

Thanks,
Rob
keith_h
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Username: keith_h

Post Number: 2061
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2014 - 8:04 pm:   Edit Post

As I usually keep my filters wide open or close to it the Q-switch acts somewhat like a bright switch for me. With it off the notes are even across the range of play. When on with my fretted basses there is more bite when I dig in or zing with slapping/popping. On my fretless it helps pick up the fretboard slap for a more percussive sound. It can also affect the overtones that get emphasized depending upon the filter setting and what I am playing.

Keith
terryc
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Username: terryc

Post Number: 2243
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Friday, August 22, 2014 - 3:56 am:   Edit Post

Took me 6 months to master the 2 filters and Q's on my MK Signature.
From P bass thump, J bass honk to Gibson T bird punch and Ricky clank..it can do it all!
There was a comment on FB on a page I am on, some guy said the filters on Alembics were 'old school' and nowadays the bass/treble on todays instruments surpass this type of eq. I told him he was talking out his a**e!
rv_bass
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Username: rv_bass

Post Number: 8
Registered: 8-2014
Posted on Friday, August 22, 2014 - 5:05 am:   Edit Post

Keith, thanks again for the clarification, very helpful! The Q-switch sounds like something I will definitely look into. Having a little more control over the brightness and bite would expand the versatility when trying to "blend" the sound using the pickup and LPF controls.

Terryc; regarding the bass/treble vs. filters issue, modern amps generally provide bass/treble cut/boost options and parametric EQ comparable to what you can find in non-filter active bass setups. I think the combination of an Alembic bass with filter controls along with an amp with all the bells and whistles really expands the possibilities for shaping the sound.

Rob

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