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dannobasso
Senior Member
Username: dannobasso

Post Number: 630
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 6:31 am:   Edit Post

Before I bother the folks at the mothership, do any of you find folks have an idea about this one.
My Excel 5 (not Kay she's fine) has a recurring buzz on the 5th fret on the g string. I've adjusted the neck numerous ways, nut and bridge, changed strings and all of the things I could thing of but the problem persists. It has been minimized but the action is not ideal for home playing. (Live I usually have a slightly higher action 'cause I play very aggressively) Perhaps ther is something I have overlooked.
Thanks.
keith_h
Senior Member
Username: keith_h

Post Number: 851
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 6:59 am:   Edit Post

Have you taken a fret height gauge to see if it might be caused by a raised fret?

Keith
dannobasso
Senior Member
Username: dannobasso

Post Number: 631
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 7:30 am:   Edit Post

Not yet. Funny that I don't have one. I'll try and pick up one today.
Sound very likely though.
Thanks Keith,
Keep em' coming please.
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 5516
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 6:21 pm:   Edit Post

Excuse the question, but what does "recurring" mean in this context?

Fret height gauge. I need to order one of those.
dannobasso
Senior Member
Username: dannobasso

Post Number: 634
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 7:38 pm:   Edit Post

left out the "O". Meaning that when I get the action to a desired, to die for, low but no buzz. That blessed 5th fret on the g string makes its entrance yet again. Possibly like a cur crashing the party repeatedly?
cur |k?r| noun an aggressive dog or one that is in poor condition, esp. a mongrel. •
informal a contemptible man.
ORIGIN Middle English (in the general sense [dog] ): probably originally in cur-dog, perhaps from Old Norse kurr ‘grumbling.’

Pretend it is a post from our Erasmus friends.
Sup? Jeet? Jawanna? Youse knows, likes it sounds.
bsee
Senior Member
Username: bsee

Post Number: 1786
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 9:16 pm:   Edit Post

Might it be a loose fret that is vibrating? I would think that it would either bet the 5th fret is loose or the 6th fret is a bit high on the treble side. I'm not sure what the factory would dictate, but I might try laying a softish piece of pine across the frets and giving it a few taps with a rubber mallet just to make sure they are fully pressed in. I'd be very gentle...
jacko
Senior Member
Username: jacko

Post Number: 1342
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 4:53 am:   Edit Post

Danno, I don't think Dave was commenting on your spelling. In fact there is no such word as reOccuring - this is a frequent and easily made mistake. The correct word (as you already knew) is an extension of recur - to occur again.

Graeme

p.s. I have no idea why your 5th fret is buzzing - probably just needs tapping down a touch.
crgaston
Senior Member
Username: crgaston

Post Number: 432
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 5:43 am:   Edit Post

...and the precise etymological origin, from the Latin, "currere", meaning "to run." Literally, "to run again."

Related words:

Current, cursive, concur, cursor, etc.

English being a "mongrel" language, often words that sound very similar have no relation to each other in origin or meaning. It can be a real curse for those trying to learn the language. :-)

P.S. Crank that action up so you can get some good string excursion!

Charles
georgie_boy
Advanced Member
Username: georgie_boy

Post Number: 296
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 9:32 am:   Edit Post

GULP!!
terryc
Advanced Member
Username: terryc

Post Number: 270
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 9:37 am:   Edit Post

I agree with bsee..soft pine and a wood mallet but check fret/string clearance..you can use a standard set of feeler guages as a reference.
As for the other maybe a course in definitive grammar and syntax..I just love they way threads take numerous paths here in this club
dannobasso
Senior Member
Username: dannobasso

Post Number: 635
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post

The fret is not buzzing but the string is. No surprise GC had no gauges. An act of the purest optimism to suggest it in the first place! I'll call the office today to get their take which will mirror all your suggestions.
Rest assured that all responses are of the humor as dry toast variety. Life is too short to get wrapped up in negativity.
For interesting takes on language try www.adultswim.com/video/index.html and look at Squidbillies.
Warning: not very pc.
cozmik_cowboy
Intermediate Member
Username: cozmik_cowboy

Post Number: 200
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post

Gee, and the thing first I thought when I saw this thread was "Unusual buzz? Sure, thanks!" So call me a reprobate (which does not mean you have register my will again).

Peter
dannobasso
Senior Member
Username: dannobasso

Post Number: 636
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 4:32 pm:   Edit Post

You mean like Norml? Never crossed my mind. Sometimes I forget how many DH's there are here. Mica gave me the low down which included all the above input of the luthier variety. On a high note (not the controlled substance kind), all the black is applied to my new fretless and refinished Essence. She also told me they made a bunch of black Spoilers in da 80's.
Thank for all your suggestions and I will try to incorporate some of them into my special ed English class. We are currently moving through Animal Farm. Then on to Hamlet. Snowball, Hamlet, good segue. Porcine humor. Always wear clean shirts.... da da de dum dum.
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 5517
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 6:58 pm:   Edit Post

Animal Farm! Cool!
jacko
Senior Member
Username: jacko

Post Number: 1344
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 1:10 am:   Edit Post

Danno.
For me, one of the nicest black spoilers they made in the 80's is the exploiter/spoiler Stanley is wearing on the cover of his '85 album 'find out'.

find out

Sorry for the poor quality pic.

Back on topic, you say it's the string that's buzzing, not the fret. I had something similar that turned out to be something loose in the controls. tightening all the pots down properly cured the issue.

graeme
dannobasso
Senior Member
Username: dannobasso

Post Number: 638
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 9:55 am:   Edit Post

Some fashion statements are just timeless! I'll check out all the hardware and electronics as well. Thanks
terryc
Advanced Member
Username: terryc

Post Number: 275
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post

Jacko - you got this album..I think it is deleted now even from CD..it was very 80's but there is some great playing on it.
hieronymous
Intermediate Member
Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 193
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 4:00 pm:   Edit Post

That's actually the best quality pic I've seen of that album cover - I was looking a while ago. I used to have all his albums on LP...
jacko
Senior Member
Username: jacko

Post Number: 1351
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 2:30 am:   Edit Post

Yep I have the album - LP naturally. Best version of born in the USA I've heard.

Graeme
bigbadbill
Advanced Member
Username: bigbadbill

Post Number: 396
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 2:55 am:   Edit Post

Some great playing on that album, I have it too....
811952
Senior Member
Username: 811952

Post Number: 1143
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 7:28 am:   Edit Post

I hope I never have a problem with my buzz. My language skills wouldn't be up to the test!
dannobasso
Senior Member
Username: dannobasso

Post Number: 641
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 2:43 pm:   Edit Post

Its a tough crowd here at da club!

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