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paolopop
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Username: paolopop

Post Number: 1
Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - 8:58 am:   Edit Post

I bought a wonderful Series II guitar (SN 79 1492) and I can stop to watch it: a stunning masterpiece.
In the bridge position the guitar sounds fantastic, unfortunately I have found that the neck pickup make a lot of noise (a 50Hz hum) and I am unable to cancel it blending the signal with the central pickup.
The bridge pickup is really quiet.
I measured the picups but the neck one seems to be interrupted. Incredible to say, if I plug it alone in the preamp, it works, even if it is weak.
I tried to swap the pickups (actually I tested every possible combinations) but the problem seems to be in the PU, not in the preamp.
What can I do?
Is there any way to fix this problem (could it be a fault in the shieded wire?)
Have I to send the pickups and the preamp to Alembic?
I live in Italy and I would prefer to avoid to ship the entire guitar.
Are those old pickups still available?
Thank you

Paolo
dadabass2001
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Username: dadabass2001

Post Number: 820
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - 4:50 pm:   Edit Post

Hello Paolo
Are you using the 1/4" jack or the 5 pin DIN plug to the power supply? Early series instruments were equipped with stereo 1/4" jacks and you would only here one channel unless you used a stereo cord.
Others will help as they see this post.
Mike
paolopop
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Username: paolopop

Post Number: 2
Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - 10:15 pm:   Edit Post

I use the DIN plug OR a stereo jack, the results are the same. As I wrote, if I swap the pickups the problem is in the bridge channel, I am pretty sure that there is something wrong with one of the pickups.
I wrote to the Alembic support some days ago, but I have still no reply.
Thank youPickups
paolopop
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Username: paolopop

Post Number: 3
Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post

A picture of the preamp:


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adriaan
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Username: adriaan

Post Number: 1693
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2007 - 1:34 am:   Edit Post

If the problem moves with the pickup (and does not occur with the other pickup hooked up to the same preamp) then it's obviously a problem with the pickup itself.

Try calling Alembic after 6 PM your time - that is about 9 AM in California.
paolopop
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Username: paolopop

Post Number: 4
Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2007 - 5:58 am:   Edit Post

Thank you for your reply. The problem is in the pickup for sure.
What is incomprehensible to me is that the pickup winding itself is interrupted according to the ohm-meter, but it still sounds!
Anyway I will sent the pickups and the preamp at the Alembic if they will authorize me!
adriaan
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Username: adriaan

Post Number: 1695
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2007 - 7:34 am:   Edit Post

You probably only need to order a new pickup - but let's wait for a response from Alembic.
lbpesq
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Post Number: 2724
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2007 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post

Paolo:

I'd wait until at least 11:00 A.M. PST before calling Alembic. They don't open until 10:00 and I'd give them a little window to get the new day started. Sounds like a bad pickup (I'm assuming when you change the neck to bridge, you're actually unplugging the connector and then plugging it into the other preamp/filter, not just physically moving the pickup, right?). The pickup can easily be swapped out for a new one. They are the same as they were back when your guitar was born.

Bill, the guitar one
811952
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Username: 811952

Post Number: 1227
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2007 - 5:23 pm:   Edit Post

Sounds similar to what happened to one of my pickups not that long ago. The shield separated and it also became microphonic. You'll need to order a new pickup from them if that's the case..

John
paolopop
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Username: paolopop

Post Number: 5
Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2007 - 9:05 pm:   Edit Post

Thank you for your kind replies!!
This is a really helpful community.
Actually I tried to order a new pickup (or better, a new set?) days ago.
Anyone knows why Alembic does not reply to my email?
I tried many times with the support form in this web site too, but...
I would prefer to avoid to call by phone because... ehm... I am have no problems to read and write in English, but I am not very able to SPEAK English!

A further question: anyone could give me an advice about the preamp?
It seems to work fine, but are the new ones better in terms of sound?
Thank you

Paolo
hieronymous
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Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 235
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2007 - 9:08 pm:   Edit Post

Paolo - today (Nov. 22) is Thanksgiving here in the USA - one of the biggest holidays of the year! I am 99.99% sure that Alembic will be closed from Nov. 22-25, so don't expect a response until next week at the earliest!
keith_h
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Username: keith_h

Post Number: 909
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Friday, November 23, 2007 - 5:38 am:   Edit Post

The delay might also have something to do with this. Alembic is a small shop so when one of them is out of the office requests can be delayed.

Keith
paolopop
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Username: paolopop

Post Number: 6
Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Friday, November 23, 2007 - 6:47 am:   Edit Post

This explains all!
I will wait for a post from Mica or a direct reply.
Thank you very much for your helpful post, Keith.
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 5710
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, November 23, 2007 - 5:00 pm:   Edit Post

Hi Paolo; welcome to the board!

About your question concerning the preamp. The main difference between your preamp and a new one would be RF noise. The new ones are designed to be quiet even amongst all of the RF stuff in the air that didn't exist back in the 70's. If you have noise (other than the bad pickup), then if you haven't already done so, you want to do the hum cancelling procedure. If you still have noise, then you can ship your guitar back to the shop to get the electronics upgrade. It is not inexpensive; but it's less than buying new electronics. Hopefully, getting the pickup replaced is all you need.

(Message edited by davehouck on November 23, 2007)
paolopop
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Username: paolopop

Post Number: 7
Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Friday, November 23, 2007 - 7:34 pm:   Edit Post

Thankfully I have no problem with the high frequency noise.
Anyway the cost to ship the entire guitar (from and to Italy) would be prohibitive, for sure higher that to buy new electronics!
At this point I can assume that I need a new set of matched pickups (the plastic of the working one is in bad conditions).
I only have to know how to make my order!
Well, I will wait for the mail I sent to Alembic days ago.
Thank to all the kind people that are helping me.
mica
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Username: mica

Post Number: 4939
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2007 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post

Hi Paolo,

I've sent an answer to your email from November 20th with ordering details.
1dallek1
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Username: 1dallek1

Post Number: 25
Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2007 - 5:33 pm:   Edit Post

hi we're sort of related i have 79-1405. off the subject but when you wear the guitar with a strap standing up do you have to hold the neck up? mine does a dive if i don't support it, i moved the straplock to the tip of the horn and it helps a bit, also do you have the led's?
dallek
paolopop
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Username: paolopop

Post Number: 8
Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 1:51 am:   Edit Post

Hi my cousin! ;-)
Actually the guitar is a little umbalenced.
Just a little.
Mine has the upper horn longer than the other (sorry, it is not visible in the picture) and the straplock was already on the tip of the horn.
Maybe your guitar has a symmetrical design?
I use a large rough leather strap and this seems to hepl.
paolopop
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Post Number: 9
Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 2:04 am:   Edit Post

Hi my cousin! ;-)
Actually the guitar is a little umbalenced.
Just a little.
Mine has the upper horn longer than the other (sorry, it is not visible in the picture) and the straplock was already on the tip of the horn.
Maybe your guitar has a symmetrical design?
I use a large rough leather strap and this seems to hepl.
1dallek1
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Username: 1dallek1

Post Number: 27
Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 8:09 pm:   Edit Post

hi this one has the brite switches, and the LED Markers on the side of the neck, i added an on off switch for the LED's, also this is no longer the stock stereo output. i installed an effects loop driven by a cae jangletone gain buffer like the Jerry Garcia Guitars. the 1/4" jack is the input-output for the efects loop and the 5 pin is the power and mono output , it goes to the power supply then out to the amp, , it sounds pretty good

Series 2
jacko
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Username: jacko

Post Number: 1499
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 4:26 am:   Edit Post

nice sticker!

Graeme
keavin
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Username: keavin

Post Number: 1297
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 5:38 am:   Edit Post

with those CVQ's on this one why the "bright" switches?....the single coils are 'naturally' clean & bright.
icecreamman
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Username: icecreamman

Post Number: 2
Registered: 3-2008
Posted on Sunday, March 02, 2008 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post

Interesting. I just picked up a '79 Series I guitar and was just considering putting in an effects loop w/ a CAE CB2. How did the CAE mod affect the alembics pickup tone? Did you do any hum-cancelling mods?
edwin
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Username: edwin

Post Number: 296
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, March 02, 2008 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post

Why would you need the CAE CB2? The pickups are already preamped. You just need to take the signal from the right part of the circuit. The only think I would add is a master volume.

Edwin
freefuzz
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Username: freefuzz

Post Number: 7
Registered: 2-2008
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2008 - 2:48 am:   Edit Post

paolopop, i trust you've already checked the plug between pickup and preamp? most of the problems i've had with alembic instruments lie here.
but i have been able to repair the pickup of an electrum by carefully dremeling (with dental equipment) the pickup (following the cable) until you reach the place the coil is soldered to said cable leading to the preamp connection. i imagine the problem lies here. the coil doesn't often break. a comparably inexpensive fix, you will see.
coffeegod
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Username: coffeegod

Post Number: 10
Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post

I owned that very guitar in the early 90's.
Loved it. It had the thickest frettboard of any Alembic I have owned.
Sold it as I was getting tight for money and 4 ALembics was a bit much to sustain.
coffeegod
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Username: coffeegod

Post Number: 11
Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post

It seems fitting that the "Colombus" Guitar...(1492) ends up in Italy.

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