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fandange
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Username: fandange

Post Number: 1
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 2:20 pm:   Edit Post

Hello everybody. I'd like to know details of this bass which is not to me but to one of the greatest french bassists. I think that it has born in 1974, isn't it? from what kind of woods is it made? Thank you.
speicky
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Username: speicky

Post Number: 325
Registered: 3-2005
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 2:52 pm:   Edit Post

Bonjour, Christophe,

and welcome to this forum. I hope you enjoy the great cameraderie around here. Who is the bassist you mentioned, I'd really like to know. I'm glad your daughter also already appreciates Alembic :-)

glad to have you here, Christian

edited for poor spelling and this "%$")$%"/ file locking error

(Message edited by Speicky on September 03, 2008)
fandange
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Post Number: 3
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 3:04 pm:   Edit Post

Thank you Christian. Are you French too? This bassist is Francis Darizcuren. He was playing the bass for TV in the 60's and 70's and is still playing as a session bassist. He has a Basse Institut near Paris. He also was redactor for Bass Magazine. He made me discover the Alembic world. Bye!!!!!!!!!!
elwoodblue
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Username: elwoodblue

Post Number: 544
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 4:24 pm:   Edit Post

Christophe,
Welcome to the discussion board...I know I'm not the only one who would love to see some pictures of your early Alembic.

I'll have to see if I can find some film of the older TV shows with Francis playing.

take care,
kris
fandange
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Username: fandange

Post Number: 5
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2008 - 2:38 am:   Edit Post

Here is a picture of LSB #O86 and #025-75. F.Darizcuren bought the fretted 025-75 in London and this bass can be an european serie bass. #086 comes from Washington and is a US serie.
picture
If you want another photos of Francis you can go on his website. Christophe MEYER

(Message edited by davehouck on September 09, 2008)
room037
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Username: room037

Post Number: 236
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2008 - 8:02 am:   Edit Post

Hi Christophe,
Thank you for the great pictures !

I think about No. 086.(right side on the picture)

1: Upper horn is 1974 style.
2: Serial No. of 1974 are around 40 to 130.
3: Serial No. 84 in "showcase"section and 86(It was appeared on eBay) are SSB in my archives.

Because I think the bass is No.85.
or SSB No. 86 was actual No.85.

Eiji

(Message edited by room037 on September 06, 2008)

(Message edited by room037 on September 06, 2008)
kungfusheriff
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Username: kungfusheriff

Post Number: 727
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2008 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post

Wow. That's almost as stunning as Bucky's bass. Who ended up with that one?
fandange
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Username: fandange

Post Number: 7
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 4:14 pm:   Edit Post

Mr DARIZCUREN just knows that the end of the SN is 086. But is this an AC, AE or std serie model? Could someone tell me what is the top wood? I would say Lacewood; maybe am I wrong? Best regards to all the great family of Alembic world. C.MEYER
room037
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Username: room037

Post Number: 237
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 8:35 pm:   Edit Post

It's my opinion of serial No. from my archives.

Following digit stamps are confused.
No.0 : c,o(alphabet), 6,8,9(double stamped)
No.3 : 8
No.5 : 6

Serial No. with extra letter. (following are in my archives)
A--- : 1974 (Dela'217s A013), 1975(unusual omega A051)
AC--- : 1975(AC025, AC033), 1976(AC070, JimmyJ's AC418)
AE--- : 1976(AE013 t0 016 for YAMAHA, AE069, AE082, AE40?)
o-- : 1974(o13 as Smithsonian bass, o18)

AC418 and AE40? are added "AE,AC" on regular serial No.
I think these were started to build as regular, then added stamp when exported it.
Other instruments were prepared for specific.

In this case, I confused the picture.
Frettless on left side is "LSB #O86" and Fretted old style is "#025-75", all right ?
If so, older bass(right side) is "75 o25" that I think.
Very few 75's standard body had round upper horn.(I said 74 style in my last post)
No possibility as 72'025, AC025(double neck) and AE025(1976).

Now, #086,
Body and PUs are late 1975 style.
Single trussrod featured before 1977(serial No. arround 650).
Regular serial No.86 is 1974.
Because, 1976 "AC or AE086", or 1975 "o86" are compatible for this case.

I wish Mica will suggest about this.

Sorry for your confusion due to my representation.
I wrote with dictionaly but difficult.

Eiji
fandange
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Username: fandange

Post Number: 8
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post

Lots of thanks Eiji.I've understood all you've written. I'm french and try to write clearly in English too when I'm on this american website. I don't know if I make too much errors but if I've got answers to my questions I know that I'm understood. AC is for Canada; AE is for Europe; WHAT ARE A--- AND o--- for ?
fandange
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Post Number: 9
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post

OOPS sorry. #086 IS THE DEFRETTED MODEL AT THE LEFT OF THE PICTURE AND #025-75 IS THE RIGHT ONE.
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 6993
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 09, 2008 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post

Hee hee!! I love the world wide web!
georgie_boy
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Username: georgie_boy

Post Number: 529
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Friday, September 12, 2008 - 4:48 am:   Edit Post

Salut Christope!
Comment-va mon pote?
Alors-tu dis que Dariz est en train de vendre l'Alembic??
Mais---pourquoi??
A l'epoque-c'est a dire, quatre-vingt dix sept, Je bossais pour une boite a Paris (entre quatorze et quatre-vingt dix huit) et Dariz etait le "Mec" lui et Pascale Mulot!
Dariz a dit que L'Alembic etait sa basse preferee, et maintenaint, il veut la vendre!?
Fais gaffe mon pote!!
A mon avis, il y a un probleme avec cette basse la-mais peut-etre elle est superbe!!?? Mais pourquoi "a vendre"??
Un mec comme Dariz ne vendrais jamais une telle basse. Peut-etre je suis en tort, et j'espere bien que c'est bien le cas, mais----------
Qu'est ce que tu en penses toi-meme?

Et le prix??

Prends soins de toi
georges
georgie_boy
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Username: georgie_boy

Post Number: 531
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Friday, September 12, 2008 - 5:05 am:   Edit Post

Je voulais dire-entre quatre-vingt quatorze et quatre-vingt dix huit!!
Suis pas aussi vieux que ca!!

G
fandange
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Username: fandange

Post Number: 10
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Friday, September 12, 2008 - 6:02 am:   Edit Post

Bonjour Georges. Je n'ai jamais dit que Francis Darizcuren vendait ses Alembic; elles sont presque de sa famille!!!! Par contre je fais cette recherche pour lui. Il m'a dit une fois que ses basses étaient les #86 et #87, une autre fois il m'a dit #086( C'EST PAS PAREIL QUE #86) et #75-025 (d'après les papiers livrés avec sa basse frettée). Encore une autre fois il m'a déclaré que l'une était de 1975( vrai) et l'aure de 1970 (ça c'est faux) Il s'en moque un peu, de toute manière il les joue et adore ça, alors connaitre les bois de ses basses ainsi que les années de fabrication;..... Je pense le faire plus pour moi que pour lui. JE VIS ET JE RESPIRE ALEMBIC. A BIENTOT TRES CHER!!! CHRISTOPHE MEYER
georgie_boy
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Username: georgie_boy

Post Number: 535
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 2:42 am:   Edit Post

Salut Christophe.
Desole! Je croyais qu'il allait les vendre.
tant pis pour toi Non??
gardes le contact

George

You speak English very well!!
fandange
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Username: fandange

Post Number: 15
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 1:44 pm:   Edit Post

Bonjour Georges. Tu sais pour le moment je ne peuxpas me payer d'Alembic. Un de ces jours j'y arriverai. Ca fait partie du rêve....A bientôt!!!
georgie_boy
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Username: georgie_boy

Post Number: 536
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2008 - 4:13 am:   Edit Post

Bonjour Christophe.
Un de ces quatres, tu en aura une.
Cela fait partie du reve, et lorsque tu aura assez de pognon, une Alembic sera chez toi.
Peut-etre un peut de credit non??? sinon, ta carte blue! C'est ce que j'ai fait pour realiser mon reve une fois pour tout. Je ne regrette rien!

George
mica
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Username: mica

Post Number: 5601
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 - 5:40 pm:   Edit Post

My research hasn't brought me either of these files, unless 086 is from the AE or AC series, which I think may be possible since it has a preceding "0" in front of the number. Eiji has already suggested this with his research.

I have the file file for AE76-086, where the "AE" in the record is sort of squished in, looks like it was added later to me, and may not be on the bass if that's the case (so confusing!). Here's what AE76-086 record says:

top and back: Purpleheart
body: Koa
through-body neck: Maple and Purpleheart, 34" long scale
fingerboard: Rosewood with mother of pearl oval inlays
peghead veneers: Padouk (Vermilion)

If we could find out the 3-digit number written on the preamp card inside the bass, or on one of the pots, we can confirm the identity of this bass.

I could not find any record for 025 in AC or AE sequence.
hieronymous
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Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 427
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 - 6:02 pm:   Edit Post

Mica, my doubleneck should be AC-025. I have it written two ways: #75-025AC is the way it's written on a letter to the previous owner, and the headstocks are stamped AC 025 & 75-025.

Harry
fandange
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Username: fandange

Post Number: 16
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Sunday, October 19, 2008 - 1:37 pm:   Edit Post

Hello Mica. Thank you for your answer. I think that AE76-086 must be the defretted bass of Francis; and I will ask him this 3-digit number. You say Purpleheart top and back. On the photo above it seems more red than purple, is it because of all this years? or maybe a rare piece of Purpleheart...?
georgie_boy
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Username: georgie_boy

Post Number: 550
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 5:26 am:   Edit Post

Hi Christophe.
Encore moi.
I own Serie 1 AE 76 069!
She is from March 31 1976, so, as the serial numbers are so close, it would seem that Dariz's bass is definitely a 1976 model, probably made 2 or 3 months after mine.
That would make her around Mai 1976.

George
fandange
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Username: fandange

Post Number: 17
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 2:26 am:   Edit Post

AE 76-086 is older than me(4 months)!!!!! What is your AE 76-069 looking like? Christophe
georgie_boy
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Username: georgie_boy

Post Number: 561
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 4:38 am:   Edit Post

Hi Christophe.
Look in my profile for a picture.
I have more at home if you want to see them

A+

George
fandange
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Username: fandange

Post Number: 18
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post

Hello George. Your bass is beautiful, and its( sorry, her.... I saw you were talking about your bass like if it was a woman) hardshell case too. Denny is between Glasgow and Rosyth by the non-toll road, isn't it???? I've gone 2 times in Glasgow to unload and reload my lorry: I'm lorry driver in Norbert Dentressangle, you know, the reds....!!! Have a nice day my friend and like the Brian May arrangement God save the Queen!!!!!
......I know, I know, you are Scottish...
georgie_boy
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Username: georgie_boy

Post Number: 564
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Friday, November 07, 2008 - 2:04 am:   Edit Post

Hi Christophe.
Thankyou for the kind words about my bass!
Yes Denny is a small town about 30Km from Glasgow
I know little Norbert from the time I used to drive lorries for Giraud in France. I used to live in Department 93 near Bobigny!
If you come back to Scotland, send me an E Mail, and I'll meet you.
Glad to see you realise the difference between Scotland and England!

Take care my friend

George
fandange
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Username: fandange

Post Number: 20
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Saturday, November 08, 2008 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post

Hello George. OK, if I come back in Scotland I'll send you a e-mail and that will be an honour to meet you. Question, I know that noone of the band was playing an Alembic, but do you love Queen? (before Freddie Mercury's death)
georgie_boy
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Username: georgie_boy

Post Number: 565
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2008 - 2:36 am:   Edit Post

Brilliant!!
I saw them at Wembley in Londres in 1985 at the LIVE AID concert.
I lived in london for 14 years

george

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