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palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 630
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 1:43 pm:   Edit Post

Hi Brothers and Sisters,

it took me about 4 years to complete this but, well, patience is a wonderful force to get somewhere (isn't it Brother Bob the cook one)!
So here you have some pictures of my "new" rig. Except the DS5-R, the speakers and racklight is everything second or more hand.
Top to bottom:
- American Audio racklight/power conditioner-distributot
- Lexicon MPX-100 Dual channel Effect pocessor
- SF-2 (don't mind the settings)
- F1-X
- DS5-R
- Korg DT1-pro tuner
-Dynacord L-1000 Lineair precision Power Amp
- Glockenklang "Quattro"
- Glockenklang "Uno"
- Bonnie is right (with psychadelic reflections on her body)
- the footswich of the Lexicon is left on the ground.

Signal path:
- guitar into DS-5R
- DS-5R Mono out front into F1-X
- Full range out back F1-X to Korg DT1
- SF-2 in effect-loop of F1-X. SF-2 channel A in, switch to mono, channel B out.
- F1-X in bi-amp
- F1-X Low pass to Channel B on Dynacord and so to Glock "uno"
- F1-X high-pass to mono in Lexicon
- Lexicon Mono out to Channel A of Dynacord and from there to Glock Quattro.

The sound tweaking is in process but it looks very promising.




Paul the bad&happy one!
smokin_dave
Junior
Username: smokin_dave

Post Number: 49
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 6:52 pm:   Edit Post

Wow,very impressive.I want to switch to a power amp and get an F-1X to run my SF-2 into.I use an old SWR SM-400 with the SF-2 in the loop.Sounds great for some things but a little under powered.I really dig the Glockenlang cabs too.I covet Glockenlang amps and would love to get my hands on a power amp from them.You must be very happy with that rig,I would be.It's great to be alive,ain't it?
smokin_dave
Junior
Username: smokin_dave

Post Number: 50
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 6:59 pm:   Edit Post

Hey Paul,by the way,how do you have the filter type's set?It looks like you use A for the high end and B for the low.I'm just the opposite.Plus I use the SF-2 in stereo mode.For some reason it sounds better to me that way.
Bonnie looks real sweet posing next to such a stellar rig too.
senmen
Member
Username: senmen

Post Number: 73
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 1:00 am:   Edit Post

Paul,

wow not bad. I hope that I can see and try it soon as discussed.......

Take care
Oliver
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 632
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 1:04 am:   Edit Post

Hey Brother David,

yep ...it's great to be alive!
The SF-2 settings I'm just start to learn! On this moment it's mono indeed because it seems more simple to me toi start with. A is on band pass for emphasis on certain mid-sounds, B is on Low pass. Bonnie delivers the highs "unthreated". She's in Mono by the way with bridge PU on full and Neck PU on 1/2.
I'm just tweaking and learning ...and tweaking again. I guess the tewaking will stop after you learn the functionality of the set in different occasions.

Paul the bad one
mattheus
Member
Username: mattheus

Post Number: 54
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 3:14 am:   Edit Post

Wow, great rig. And believe me, you'll never stop tweaking and turning. You have so much ways to work with such a set-up. Just curious, what will happen if you run the bass in stereo-mode, and both signals run into the SF-2, and then one into the F-1X and the other one into the Lexicon, or the other way around, or ....... (Man, if I had such a rig I wouldn't sleep for a month. Neither my neighbours...)

Love to hear all this in real live action one day,

Mattheus
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 633
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 5:02 am:   Edit Post

Gewoon afkomen broeder Mattheus,

Well Oliver, Mattheus, Werner, Jan, Willem, Edwin, Roger, it seems that I have to organise a small top my place no? I'll send the mails with a proposal. It will be on a saturday or a sunday starting noon.

To be honest, the continously tweaking would give me a headache. I do it in small portions. Just to get the functionalities in my "fingers" and mind.

Paul the bad one
senmen
Member
Username: senmen

Post Number: 74
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 5:15 am:   Edit Post

Hi Paul,

ok! What day? What time? What aircraft carrier?
I think this will be fun to have all the guys around. Then we really have to warn the seismographic institutes of upcoming big irregularities!
And...take care about your fingers! Don´t let them be twisted!Better is to take John´s name:
Mr. Thunderfingers...... (but I am speculating on this.... :-) )

Oliver
bbe1020
Member
Username: bbe1020

Post Number: 79
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 6:27 am:   Edit Post

Great rig Paul! I've got my eyes on your 4x10 cab...LOL. Enjoy.
kevin_k
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Username: kevin_k

Post Number: 9
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 7:32 am:   Edit Post

Nice set-up. I have a question about your signal path. You are running your tuner from the full range out on the FX1. Should I be doing that. I currently have my tuner in the effects loop (1st in line) along with a pedal or two, then back into the FX1. I have the high output going to my 4x10 and the low going to my 18. Does connecting the full range output interfer with bi-amping outputs? Thanks in advance.

Kevin
kevin_k
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Username: kevin_k

Post Number: 10
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 7:35 am:   Edit Post

Sorry, I meant F1X
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 636
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 7:50 am:   Edit Post

Brother Kevin,

as far as other people told me, a tuner always inflluence your tone. Of course it IS handy to have it in the loop beacuse you can use the "mute" bottom and tune quickly in silence.
I feed the Full range output to the Tuner and there ENDS the signal. There is IMO NO interference in doing this with the high and low outs of the cross-over. Brother Harold (the "good-mann" who sold me my F1-X a former bass-player and skilled sound-engineer) gave me the advice to use effects only AFTER the cross-over and ALONE on the high signal, because low frequencies tend not to respond a lot to effects as chorus, reverb, delay, harmoniser, etc ... the effects I use (very modestly).
There WERE some reactions already on this set-up in the club of brothers who liked to experiment with the TOTAL signal in the effect but my experience is that even the LEXICON absolutely not like it (it is not a special bass-effect tool, just a regular, general effect tool).

Paul the bad one
davehouck
Intermediate Member
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 165
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 8:38 am:   Edit Post

Kevin; I think the general rule is that the more stuff you have in the signal chain the more noise you're sending to the speakers. My guess is that on stage in a loud bar it's probably not going to make an appreciable difference. For my tuner I run a cable from the second instrument input on the front on my F-1X to the tuner input. That keeps the tuner out of the signal chain and it allows me to turn the volume down on the F-1X so my tuning isn't being run from the direct out to the PA; especially helpful during drum solos. I could be wrong in assuming that my tuner is out of the chain; but I think that by being connected to the second input all that's happening is a direct signal from the bass is being sent to the tuner. Perhaps someone with an electronics background can set me straight.
elzie
Advanced Member
Username: elzie

Post Number: 216
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post

That is a really nice setup brother Paul!!!

It gets bigger every time I see it. You are spoiling Bonnie with all that "candy", but she's worth it ;) Now what we need is for you to get some recordings of the monster sound that rig makes with Bonnie! Pretty soon you'll need to hire someone to move you equipment!


Paul The Second
dean_m
Intermediate Member
Username: dean_m

Post Number: 194
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post

Brother Paul,

That is one great looking rig!!! Bonnie is beautiful!!!!
I can't wait to hear what she sounds like. Someday I will get over there!!!
Get plenty of sleep!!! I have a feeling you're goin to need it.

Peace,

Dino(bptfo/tafkad/ktf)
dean_m
Intermediate Member
Username: dean_m

Post Number: 195
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post

Brother Paul,

That is one great looking rig!!! Bonnie is beautiful!!!!
I can't wait to hear what she sounds like. Someday I will get over there!!!
Get plenty of sleep!!! I have a feeling you're goin to need it.

Peace,

Dino(bptfo/tafkad/ktf)
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 637
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 3:12 pm:   Edit Post

Yawn ...I'm going to sleep right away.
Alas on the rehearsal just an hour ago I got a problem with the 15". He kind of "clicks" on and off?? The leds on the Poweramp indicates that there was signal. A fuse? A wire? Really ennoying.
Brother Paul TGO it IS heavy indeed but ...there ARE wheels (I put them on myself) on the side. The flight case is heavy, especially the Dynacord!

Paul the bad one
jorge_s
Junior
Username: jorge_s

Post Number: 19
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 8:32 pm:   Edit Post

Paul: You really have a canvas for any sound; wow!, really, any sound. By the way, Bonnie has got to be one of the prettiest Alembics ever!
smokin_dave
Member
Username: smokin_dave

Post Number: 51
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 9:44 pm:   Edit Post

I have to agree with you Jorge,any bass sound can be dialed in with Paul's outfit.I want that kind of versatility.By the way Paul,I use channel A to control low end and set it to band pass and channel B for high's set to low pass.The filter gain on each makes it easy to control.Sometimes when a group I play with gets a "too loud" complaint in a club setting,I just roll off a little channel A and that usually stops all complaints without the band having to adjust they're settings at all.Very handy trick.Plus you don't lose the tone and feeling with the SF-2.
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 641
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post

Hi Brother Jorge,
thanbks for the nice words. I don't know if she's the most beautiful ?!?! In the way a S1 with S2 electronics can be "modest" she is. I have to admit that the reflections of the leafs lit by evening sun on het body give her some appeal ... mmmmm.
Brother Dave, I'm still in no-mans-land in the "battle" with that thing. The inconvenience with my Uno are troubling me now. I hope I can get it fixed quickly.

Paul the bad one
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 645
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 1:57 pm:   Edit Post

Brothers and sisters,

great news: there was just a tiny cable fell loose at the inside (at the speakon connection) what was fixed in 2 minutes and ...there I was again for a brand new rehearsal. Yesterday I was creating a Jack Bruce sound which I used the evening. Wow ...that brought on memories!!!! I was a huuuu-uge fan of him.

Paul the bad one
xlrogue6
Junior
Username: xlrogue6

Post Number: 30
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 9:12 am:   Edit Post

This is a common problem with Speakons--the wires attach to the cable mount connector with a pretty effective screw clamp. The problem is simply that the set screw isn't tight enough and consequently contact can become intermittent. The problem is most common on cables that have tinned ends--for these connectors bare wire works better. Checking the setscrews on your Speakons (and bananas, for that matter) is one of those things that should be on your periodic maintenance schedule.
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 648
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post

I dunno ...it was soldered (?????! right word????). It just ...well ...euh ....."broke off"!?!

a PERIODIC MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE ?!?!?! heeeeeeeeeeeeeee-elp?!!??!?! I'm just an amatuer bass-player? Hoever ...I've been always good to Bonnie (even by using olive oil instead of lemon oil for the taperboard LOL)

Paul the bad one
smokin_dave
Member
Username: smokin_dave

Post Number: 53
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post

Olive oil?Never heard of such.I use plenty of olive oil to cook with but never gave a thought to use it on the necks of my Alembic's.Extra virgin,regular,what?Very interesting development Paul.
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 675
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 2:11 pm:   Edit Post

huh-huh ...2 times a year. With a small paintbrush: Extra Virgine. Not too much. Without the strings. I just let it "dry" and wipe off the rest with household paper.
Stupid no???
smokin_dave
Member
Username: smokin_dave

Post Number: 62
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 8:25 pm:   Edit Post

Well I'll be dipped in dog plop.I'll give it a try.I don't cook with anything but olive oil so I have plenty.Just came back from visiting Kenny Brack in a rehab hospital by the way and he looked and acted way better than I thought he would.He's is old self 'cept for a few broken bones.He want's to thank everybody for thinking about him.The IRL website had 8 million hits the Monday after the crash.Almost as amazing as the fact that he is still alive.
bonesrad
Junior
Username: bonesrad

Post Number: 24
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 3:03 pm:   Edit Post

Paul,

I as the others am impressed with your rig. I was wondering, however, have you thought of adding another F-1X to your system and running your Series II in stereo?

Bones
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 677
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 3:08 pm:   Edit Post

Here's another story!
I just obtained (for 105$) a Squier Fender Jazz-bass. The thing played like shit and sound as crap but looks great.
Now -thanks to Brother Joey's fine set-up routine- the thing plays lile silk and sound like crap and still looks good. Well ...I'll put it trough Tweak Peaks and I think it will change a bit.
But (ahlaalala ...that but), I gave the fingerboard (what is in Rosewood I think) a Olive oil threatment. That board was not taking care for in YEARS. Well ...brothers and sisters ...you ought to see that neck ...oh-my-oh-my-my ...soooo sweet.


Paul the bad one


Sound as crap ...yes yes ....I know , I know but ...hey ... 105$???????? Man ... gimme a break!
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 678
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 1:34 am:   Edit Post

Hi Bones,

Yes I did ...but honestly, there is a huuuuuu-uge financial restriction. I f I had the money I would certainly try it and than consequently use the SF-2 also in Stereo. The F2-B could also be an option. For some reason I never went on that road.
Anyway ...I’m in the middle of a hell of a tweak.
Most of the people I met ARE impressed indeed but other bass-players don’t like the set (and the guitar) because there are too much knobs. “It has to be loud en low” is their reaction. I like to be in control. OTOH it SEEMS to be complicated but IT ISN’T. Even the SF-2 is “learnable”. However, it TAKES time to find out what settings to use in what playing condition.

Paul the bad one

(Message edited by palembic on October 25, 2003)
bishopqdog
Junior
Username: bishopqdog

Post Number: 35
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 6:42 am:   Edit Post

Paul we love your rig! and the BASS!!!
captain_jan
New
Username: captain_jan

Post Number: 10
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 3:03 am:   Edit Post

Hi Paul,
If I had such a rig with soooo many buttons on it I guess I could just spend days by playing one string and trying them all out.....don't dare show my incompetency by asking you what all the buttons do and those racks what they are and how they sound...But if the sound is as good as the complicated looks it must sound amazing. Well, at least Bonnie does, I'm sure!
Very cool!
Jan
captain_jan
Junior
Username: captain_jan

Post Number: 11
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 3:09 am:   Edit Post

Hi Paul,
If I had such a rig with soooo many buttons on it I guess I could just spend days by playing one string and trying them all out.....don't dare show my incompetency by asking you what all the buttons do and those racks what they are and how they sound...But if the sound is as good as the complicated looks it must sound amazing. Well, at least Bonnie does, I'm sure!
Very cool!
Jan

I recommend you all to get a satellite-connected internet so you can post the same message over and over again..!!!


(Message edited by captain_jan on November 23, 2003)
captain_jan
Junior
Username: captain_jan

Post Number: 12
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 3:20 am:   Edit Post

Perrrkele.. %$3@@**rgd!!!!

Still the same message repeated!!
Darn satellite!!!


(Message edited by captain_jan on November 23, 2003)

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