| Author | Message | ||
| jerbass
New Username: jerbass Post Number: 1 Registered: 3-2009 |
Trying to get a value for insurance purposes. S/N78-1177 LSB Schedua laminate Mahogany Body Maple and Purple Heart Neck, Ebony fingerboard Zebrawood veneers CLear finish Schaller tuners MOther of Pearl Inlays PF-6 Electronics. Would like to update electronics | ||
| edwin
Senior Member Username: edwin Post Number: 423 Registered: 5-2002 |
Hm, sounds a lot like mine! See http://alembic.com/club/messages/411/4748.html?1210707724 for pics. I have mine insured for the current new price of a Series I. | ||
| jerbass
New Username: jerbass Post Number: 2 Registered: 3-2009 |
Thanks much for the response. It looks exactly like yours. So insure in $13k range? Do you have any idea how I can use both pickups without using the special cord and power supply? I've tried a stereo cord but that is not working. | ||
| davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 7815 Registered: 5-2002 |
What kind of stereo cable are you using? TRS plug into two mono plugs, or TRS plug into one mono plug, or TRS into TRS? | ||
| jerbass
New Username: jerbass Post Number: 3 Registered: 3-2009 |
TRS to TRS | ||
| lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq Post Number: 3647 Registered: 7-2004 |
Jack: First of all, welcome to the club! What are you plugging the cable into (on the opposite end as your bass)? Bill, the guitar one | ||
| jerbass
New Username: jerbass Post Number: 4 Registered: 3-2009 |
Bill, Thanks, I'm glad to be a part of this group as I've had my Alembic since 1983 and over the years tried many different cords and configurations, but pretty much gave up on getiing them both to work without the DS5. I typically run into a Demeter Preamp mainly for stage but also recording. Both pickups work fine through the DS5 into the same configuration but only on pickup functions without the DS5. DO I need a different cable? | ||
| lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq Post Number: 3649 Registered: 7-2004 |
Jack: Is your Demeter a stereo preamp with a stereo tip, ring, sleeve, jack? If not, I believe that may be your problem. The DS5 converts your stereo into a mono signal. When using batteries, if you are plugging a stereo plug into a mono jack, the preamp is only seeing one side of the stereo signal. You need to either rewire the guitar for mono, or split the stereo signal into two mono plugs and plug into two channels or inputs on the preamp (if it has two channels or inputs). Bill, tgo | ||
| davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 7824 Registered: 5-2002 |
Jack; I don't know much about Demeter preamps, but the current two models do not appear to have a stereo 1/4" input, and do not appear to be stereo amps. So I would think that a TRS to TRS cable would not work. You may want to build, or have built, a TRS to mono cable as described here. Oh, and as Bill said, welcome to the board! | ||
| jerbass
New Username: jerbass Post Number: 5 Registered: 3-2009 |
Bill/Dave, You are correct, it is not a stereo preamp. Thanks for the clarification. I'm guessing this cord is not a stock item. Any idea where I could get one made? | ||
| davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 7827 Registered: 5-2002 |
There are a number of people that make good quality custom cables at reasonable prices. One that I use is Bayou Cables. | ||
| jerbass
New Username: jerbass Post Number: 6 Registered: 3-2009 |
I hate to be a pain, but I took a stereo splitter plug and ran (2) 1/4" to 2 different sources. It is still only activating one pickup. I'm not sure a Stereo to Mono cord will do the trick. Am I still missing the point? | ||
| davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 7838 Registered: 5-2002 |
Do you have a set of headphones with a 1/4" stereo plug? If so, try the headphones and see if you can hear both pickups. Also, if the jack hasn't been used much, it may need to be exercised. Plug and unplug a 1/4" jack about 30 times in succession. You may also want to try this method of jack cleaning. | ||
| jerbass
New Username: jerbass Post Number: 7 Registered: 3-2009 |
I ordered a cable fom Bayou Cables in early April (the specs you provided). I had to pay up front and so far have recieved nothing. He told me he was just doing it part time. Now I can't even get a response from my emails. Thought you should know. | ||
| olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver Post Number: 2501 Registered: 2-2006 |
That's very unusual for Bayou Cables Jack. I've ordered many cables from him and it never took more than a week or so to get them. I have one like you've ordered, TRS to mono. You might try calling him, (225) 291-3757, I ordered my via telephone. OO | ||
| tdukes
Intermediate Member Username: tdukes Post Number: 127 Registered: 4-2008 |
I have also ordered one cable on April 17. I have received one email saying my order was active a few weeks ago. No cable yet. Todd. | ||
| chalkie
New Username: chalkie Post Number: 6 Registered: 6-2009 |
PMFBI, but don't the Series I electronics deliberately only run the neck pickup when running from battery? Maybe this is duff info... | ||
| adriaan
Senior Member Username: adriaan Post Number: 2243 Registered: 6-2002 |
Chalkie - the "neck pickup only" situation is when you plug a mono cord into the stereo jack on a Series instrument, when it doesn't have a stereo/mono switch. In that case, you need a proper stereo jack and cable to get signals from both pickups. It has nothing to do with running on batteries. | ||
| davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 8195 Registered: 5-2002 |
Olie; the last time I ordered from Butch it took quite a while. I thought maybe he was just temporarily backed up; but perhaps he's getting more orders than he can turn around. | ||
| olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver Post Number: 2506 Registered: 2-2006 |
That's very possible Dave. Still can't hurt to give him a call. Butch is real cool guy, everytime I've spoken to him he was very friendl. OO PS. Are you back to 100% Dave? | ||
| davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 8196 Registered: 5-2002 |
Yes, all better; thanks! | ||
| jerbass
New Username: jerbass Post Number: 8 Registered: 3-2009 |
Thanks for the phone number and other information. Butch contacted me and assured me it will be here soon. He is working full time in addition to making cables. Patience is a virtue. | ||
| jerbass
New Username: jerbass Post Number: 9 Registered: 3-2009 |
I've waited awhile to post this. The cord Butch sent me was not even close to the specs you supplied. I returned it to him in June and I'm still waiting for a refund. Oh well. Now I'm back to square one. I need a cord that will allow me to have access to both pickups. Any other suggestions? | ||
| davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 8525 Registered: 5-2002 |
Well, I've looked around the web, and the only thing that I can find is Redco Audio. I don't know anything about them; but it does look like they do custom cables. Another alternative would be an amp tech at a local music store. Or perhaps run an ad in the musicians section of your local Craigslist; a lot of players make their own cables, so perhaps someone local could help you out. If I had any soldering skills, I would give it a try; but alas, I don't. | ||
| lmiwa
Advanced Member Username: lmiwa Post Number: 239 Registered: 2-2008 |
Would people find something like this useful?  It would plug into the stereo jack on your bass and allow you to plug your standard mono instrument cable into the jack. The two mixing resistors would be housed inside the plug. | ||
| davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 8526 Registered: 5-2002 |
That should do it Loch. | ||
| jerbass
New Username: jerbass Post Number: 10 Registered: 3-2009 |
I would. Do you have one for sale or know where I can purchase one? Butch did refund my money. Thanks to all for the help. | ||
| jerbass
Junior Username: jerbass Post Number: 11 Registered: 3-2009 |
I tried Redco and they cannot make the cable. I sure would like to gig with this bass but it's too much hassle carrying the box, etc. If i send the bass back can you upgrade the electronics? | ||
| davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 8582 Registered: 5-2002 |
Jack; I have an email out looking for an adapter. You could indeed have Alembic convert the quarter inch jack from stereo to mono; but I personally think an adapter would be a better solution. By the way, using the quarter inch jack instead of the power supply runs through batteries very quickly. Most of us prefer using the power supply rather than buying and changing batteries all the time. | ||
| lmiwa
Advanced Member Username: lmiwa Post Number: 244 Registered: 2-2008 |
Jack, Let me rewire the one in the picture so it has the necessary mixing resistors. Email your address to me and I'll send it off to you as soon as I get it modified. Try it out and let me know how it works. I don't have a stereo jack on my Series bass, so I can't actually try it. If it works out, I can make more for anyone else that is interested for $20 (s/h incl). Thanks, Loch | ||
| davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 8584 Registered: 5-2002 |
Thanks Loch!! | ||
| lmiwa
Advanced Member Username: lmiwa Post Number: 258 Registered: 2-2008 |
Cable modified, sent, tested, and working! Another option is to replace the end of any standard cable with a stereo plug and mixing resistors. Very simple change. | ||
| jerbass
Junior Username: jerbass Post Number: 12 Registered: 3-2009 |
Loch, thanks so much for your help in solving this issue. You too, Dave. Works just fine. I guess I need to bring some extra batteries to the gig but this is much more convenient. | ||
| davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 8746 Registered: 5-2002 |
Great!! Glad it's working for you! And thanks again Loch! | ||
| mica
Moderator Username: mica Post Number: 6558 Registered: 6-2000 |
Hi Jack, I have the file for your bass pulled and can confirm all the details in your original post. I would insure for replacement value, and make certain your insurance provider is actually providing replacement value insurance. Sometimes an insurance company will use the price list on the website, but if you need a statement from me regarding the value, please email me your current mailing address and I will send you a document. |
