| Author | Message | ||
| bwasserman
New Username: bwasserman Post Number: 2 Registered: 1-2010 |
I just purchased a used Tribute (Serial # 07T13709). I am interested if there is any information available on this guitar. I have always wanting a Alembic and this guitar just seemed to find me (I stumbled upon it at a guitar shop and was very surprised to find it in the used section). It looks to me like it has barely been played. Thanks - a happy new owner and club member, Brian | ||
| lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq Post Number: 4269 Registered: 7-2004 |
Hi Brian, and welcome to the club from another six-stringer. Initially, your serial number reveals that your Tribute was built in 2007 and it is approximately the 13,709th instrument (includes basses and guitars) Alembic has built since it started building instruments in 1972. When Mica from Alembic gets back after the holidays, she'll post with the woods used and any custom features. Do you need any info about the controls? Bill, the guitar one | ||
| bwasserman
New Username: bwasserman Post Number: 3 Registered: 1-2010 |
Yes - information about the controls would be great. I know it has the loops effect on-board. Is there a link to a manual? Thanks for you help and greetings | ||
| lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq Post Number: 4271 Registered: 7-2004 |
Brian: Your Tribute has the following controls: master volume, low pass filter for each pickup, off/on/bright for each pickup, mono output, TRS effects loop, on/off for effects loop In addition, if you have LEDs, there will be one more toggle switch for that too. Here's a link to the Tribute page. Also, please post pics in the Showcase section. The folks around here love pictures. Bill, tgo | ||
| jcdlc72
Junior Username: jcdlc72 Post Number: 31 Registered: 11-2009 |
Amazing to me... I was totally unaware of the on-board efx loop option... I suppose it's nice to have an extra insertion point (What?) for DSPs at a certain point of the path, but I still cannot imagine much how I, personally, would use it.. How would YOU use it, anyone? I'm pretty curious now! | ||
| lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq Post Number: 4277 Registered: 7-2004 |
The idea of an on-board effects loop originated with Jerry Garcia (or, at least, he's the first I heard of). The idea was to easily replicate his stomp box settings in different venues as he toured around. Normally, the signal path is from the pickups, through the on-board volume and tone controls, then out to the effects. Thus, the signal going to the effects changes as the guitar's volume and tone pots are adjusted. Garcia's effects loop allows the signal to go straight from the pickups to the effects, then back to the guitar to be run through the guitar's volume and tone. The result is that the effects always see the same signal, so it's easier to replicate sounds. I basically accomplish this on all my guitars by keeping the on-board volume at "10" and running a volume pedal at the end of my effects chain. Admittedly, this isn't as effective as the on-board loop, as the signal still goes through my guitar's tone controls prior to the effects, but at least the volume setting the pedals see is always the same. With my method, I only have to be tethered by one cord, not two, and I can use a wireless. That's why I had Woody, my Custom Further, built without an effects loop. Bill, tgo (Message edited by lbpesq on January 03, 2010) | ||
| pace
Senior Member Username: pace Post Number: 490 Registered: 4-2004 |
One other benefit is having a buffered true-bypass for your effects at your fingertips. The new Alembic "stage" models incorporate a "blend" control so that you can "mix in" any desired amount of your effects chain. Having a TRS loop also introduces the idea of splitting the "Send" on over to another amp source (like a leslie) and keeping it isolated from everything else (via the on/off toggle on the guitar, and also a volume footpedal). | ||
| cozmik_cowboy
Senior Member Username: cozmik_cowboy Post Number: 632 Registered: 10-2006 |
Garcia told Guitar Player in '78 (referring to his first loop system, on the Bean) that it was between the tone & volume - so your set-up does duplicate it, Bill. Peter (who just finished Jackson's Grateful Dead Gear today) | ||
| cje
Junior Username: cje Post Number: 31 Registered: 5-2009 |
Double post... (Message edited by cje on January 04, 2010) | ||
| cje
Junior Username: cje Post Number: 32 Registered: 5-2009 |
In line with Cozmik's reference to the '78 Garcia GP interview... The only thing I'd clarify is that when the signal comes back into the guitar, it only runs through the final volume stage, and it does not hit the tone controls. The way it was explained to me by Mica (as we discussed the different electronic options for my guitar), is that since there are (1) individual filters for each pickup, and (2) the signal is routed to that filter early in the signal chain, and before the FX loop out (so you can still use the filter controls when you are bypassing the FX loop), then (3) you cannot pass the return signal through individual filters when engaging the FX loop, because you can't "direct the electrons" to multiple possible signal paths. So, you do indeed get the benefit of sending a repeatable, reference-level signal to your effects, but the "tone" filters are always pre-FX loop out, UNLESS you build your instrument with just a single, master filter - then you could conceivably have both tone and volume in-line, after the FX loop return. CJ. | ||
| jx2638
Member Username: jx2638 Post Number: 67 Registered: 2-2008 |
When using the TRS loop, how is a stompbox tuner (Boss TU-2) impacted? Would you have to have the loop toggle "on" in order for the tuner to receive signal? Or, are you better off running the tuner between the guitar's mono OUT jack and the amp? (Message edited by jx2638 on January 14, 2010) | ||
| cje
Junior Username: cje Post Number: 35 Registered: 5-2009 |
I guess that depends on where you place the tuner, right? | ||
| mica
Moderator Username: mica Post Number: 6720 Registered: 6-2000 |
Just tyin' up loose ends here. This request was addressed in a separate thread |
