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jazzyvee
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Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 2324
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2011 - 3:54 pm:   Edit Post

:-(
I've just got my bass out of the case to play and no sound coming out of it. So I reached down for the on/off switch and nothing was there. The switch has broken off and in the off position. Even moving the stub does not do anything.

I think what's happened is that when I put the bass on the stand the right angled jack must have swung upwards towards the switch. So that when the bass was down on the stand the metal part of the jack pushed upwards on the switch and broke it off.

Normally Im quite careful about where the jack goes when putting the bass on a stand. I intend to send an email to Mica about it and order a new switch but also get some instructions on how to bypass it as I've always felt that style of switch was in quite a vulnerable position unlike the switches on the series instruments.
I wonder if there is a small replacement rotary style switch that could go there instead. That would be better i think.



jazzyvee
terryc
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Username: terryc

Post Number: 1495
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Monday, February 07, 2011 - 7:19 am:   Edit Post

jazzyvee..I gather this turns the pre amp on??
Take the back plate off and plug your bass into your amp and use a length of wire on the contacts to see if your bass chimes in and solder it as a jumper over the switch, if it's a standard switch I would try Maplins for replacement, if it's a simple on/off component it should be an easy fix
mica
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Username: mica

Post Number: 7211
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Monday, February 07, 2011 - 9:03 am:   Edit Post

I don't recall ever installing an on/off switch on a Europa - you would get a large POP. I do remember a custom that had a standby switch installed (against my recommendation).

Can you post a picture of that portion of the electronics cavity so I can see what exactly you have under the hood?
fc_spoiler
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Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 1219
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Monday, February 07, 2011 - 9:37 am:   Edit Post

It's this one: Clique

and indeed a standby switch.

(Message edited by fc_spoiler on February 07, 2011)
jazzyvee
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Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 2325
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, February 07, 2011 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post

Mica, I guess my terminology is off so I presume then, that regardless of the position of the switch current is still being drawn by the battery once the lead is in the jack.
Anyway, I will take a photo this evening and post it here for you to observe then hopefully I can move forward with a simple and effective solution.

Jazzyvee
jazzyvee
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Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 2327
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, February 07, 2011 - 3:47 pm:   Edit Post

Here are some pics taken with my phone. Hope they are clear enough to analyse Mica.




Jazzyvee
jazzyvee
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Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 2331
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post

Any suggestions Mica?

Jazzyvee
mica
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Username: mica

Post Number: 7216
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 5:07 pm:   Edit Post

We've thought of three ways to approach this:

1. You can leave the switch installed, and just move the violet wire that's on the center terminal to the top terminal in your image so that both violet wires on on the same terminal. The center terminal will have no wire connected to it. Leaving the resistor won't matter.

2. To replace the switch, use a SPDT type.

3. To eliminate the switch for standard Signature function, route the violet wire from the connector shown with a purple arrow to where the violet wire from the switch was on the output jack (roughly indicated by the red arrow) and remove all the wires connected to the switch.

switch repair
terryc
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Username: terryc

Post Number: 1500
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 8:04 am:   Edit Post

Looks like you have to get the soldering iron out jazzyvee..pity you live a distance or I would have done it for you
jazzyvee
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Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 2334
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post

yeah but I think I'd like an original switch to replace the broken one so that it is still all the original parts. So if anyone has a spare one knocking about or mica can give me a price for one then that would be great. So that if I decide to sell it in the future i have all original parts. I know how fussy us alembicians can be about non standard instruments.

Jazzyvee
mica
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Username: mica

Post Number: 7219
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 1:21 pm:   Edit Post

I've emailed you ordering information.
jazzyvee
Senior Member
Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 2352
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 1:14 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks Mica, I did reply with some other items. Let me know if you didn't get it and I can re-send.
Thanks

Jazzyvee
jazzyvee
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Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 2353
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2011 - 2:14 pm:   Edit Post

Good news, I've followed Mica's instructions and now I have sound again from my bass.

Jazzyvee
jazzyvee
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Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 2869
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2012 - 8:14 am:   Edit Post

I've reverse engineered mica's instructions and put the new switch in. :-) Thankfully the new switch has a shorter lever than the standard one so it stands underneath the right angled jack plug when the jackplug swings round so does not pose a risk of breaking by coming into contact with it . . A point worth remembering if you are having any switches near the jack socket.

Jazzy eye
edwin
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Username: edwin

Post Number: 1168
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2012 - 8:34 pm:   Edit Post

Another way to get around the broken switch problem is to install a push-onn/push-off switch!

However, it sounds like you've got it sorted.
jacko
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Username: jacko

Post Number: 3162
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 3:06 am:   Edit Post

jazzy - 2 ways to stop the jack swinging round...
1. Don't plug it in when your bass is on the stand - less change of someone tripping over it too.
2. Trap the cable under your strap before you plug it in. This will keep your jack pointing towards the strap button.

Graeme
jazzyvee
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Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 2876
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 9:12 am:   Edit Post

Changed my mind about comment.

(Message edited by jazzyvee on May 02, 2012)

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