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lbpesq
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Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 5042
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - 8:46 am:   Edit Post

Great price for a Further, though the ad is a little questionable - limited pics and a guy who doesn't know much about Furthers, thought he claims to have bought it new 2.5 years ago:

"the Further model was used for Phil Lesh's Bass"

here it is.

Bill, tgo
pace
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Username: pace

Post Number: 815
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - 4:19 pm:   Edit Post

that's an amazing quilt set.
mica
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Username: mica

Post Number: 7582
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - 6:26 pm:   Edit Post

Um, I think that's the guitar in the Vintage Guitar ad this month!
pasewark
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Username: pasewark

Post Number: 139
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - 6:58 pm:   Edit Post

The description sounds a little half baked . . .
wfmandmusic
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Username: wfmandmusic

Post Number: 8
Registered: 1-2012
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 4:48 am:   Edit Post

Man that's one beautiful axe!
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 10525
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 6:53 am:   Edit Post

I tried to match up the size, lighting and angle, but I'm a bit off. It does however look like the same top. The knobs are obviously different. The screws on the tailpieces appear to have the same alignment. I was focusing on the quilt rather than the neck in trying to get the pics close, but looking closely at the Maple neck lams, they appear to match as well. My guess; same guitar, but the knobs were switched out at some point, either by the dealer or the seller.

811952
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Username: 811952

Post Number: 2131
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 7:32 am:   Edit Post

Or by photoshop, if it's a scam and the seller is trying to make it look different...
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 5046
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 4:33 pm:   Edit Post

Isn't the tailpiece a little off-center?

hehehehe

Bill, tgo
811952
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Username: 811952

Post Number: 2134
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 4:54 pm:   Edit Post

Bill, you're evil. ;)
mica
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Username: mica

Post Number: 7597
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 5:15 pm:   Edit Post

Knobs are like jewelry, people change them all the time. I changed these knobs.

But now for the rest of the story... I wanted to show a Further guitar for the NAMM issue of VG. I'm looking through all my snapshots (remember, these are not professional photos), and I find this gorgeous guitar that I know will print well no matter what. I got the ad all done then darn! I noticed the knobs were our black plastic ones. Quite often on custom Further orders, our customers prefer the metal knobs; and given that, I thought that there would be a preference for seeing the guitar with the metal knobs. Since I couldn't change the knobs on the actual guitar, I changed them in Photoshop, by taking the group of four knobs off another Further and placing them over the slightly smaller black knobs.

The guitar in the ebay ad looks like it has legitimate wear from a couple years (see the bridge) and besides that the neck looks better in his picture from the angle, it's the same guitar, just with the original knobs.

Even though the seller doesn't seem to know a lot of detail about the guitar, he's got the serial number right and apparently has excellent taste :-)

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