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mik
Junior
Username: mik

Post Number: 20
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 1:01 pm:   Edit Post

Hi All

My Jimmy Johnson Signature Deluxe 5 is up for grabs. Lots going on with me at the moment and this bass remains unused. It's too beautiful to be sitting around doing nothing and I'm too busy to play it, so I'm going to sell.

Please contact me at mik_walker@yahoo.com for full details and with any questions. There are some details available at http://alembic.com/club/messages/411/414.html?1095191644 also.

I am also selling a Curbow XT-33 fretted 6, a Jaydee Supernatural Series II fretted 4 and possibly a Turner Renaissance (with a tasty abalone/tortoise upgrade) RB5-FL fretless 5.

Thank you all kindly

Mik
bassman10096
Senior Member
Username: bassman10096

Post Number: 634
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 2:36 pm:   Edit Post

Good luck with your sale, Mik. I have loved your walnut top since I first saw, it. Were I not already overcommited, I'd bid. I suspect you'll have no trouble.
Bill
mik
Junior
Username: mik

Post Number: 21
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 7:13 pm:   Edit Post

Bill,

Thanks for your kind words. It is a stunning pair of pieces of walnut without a doubt. Hopefully the bass will end up going to a home where it will be cherished and played! Thanks again, Mik
bassface123
New
Username: bassface123

Post Number: 2
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 11:44 pm:   Edit Post

Hi Mik, how much are you looking to get for the JJ-5 str.? Are you interested in partial trade + $$$...you can email me direct @ bradnsteph2@msn.com
effclef
Advanced Member
Username: effclef

Post Number: 246
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 6:24 am:   Edit Post

I have a question: is this an official "Jimmy Johnson" signature - official Alembic name, I mean?

Or is it just a configuration which matches the appearance of Jimmy's bass?

EffClef
mik
Junior
Username: mik

Post Number: 22
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 6:50 am:   Edit Post

Hello effclef

May I recommend you check out the link I listed above for this bass?http://alembic.com/club/messages/411/414.html?1095191644 - The history and concept of the bass is discussed there.

The name "Jimmy Johnson Signature Deluxe" was given to the bass by Mica at Alembic. To my mind that's about as "official" as you can get. Jimmy was involved with the design and concept of the bass (and has played this actual bass). It was to become a signature line similar to the SC and MK models. So far I think this may be the only one in existence. While it emulates a lot of the things Jimmy likes about his Alembics it is, naturally, a cheaper alternative than his Series IIs. Appearance-wise there are marked differences too between this and Jimmy's S IIs.

Thanks for your interest, feel free to bid.
mik
Junior
Username: mik

Post Number: 23
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 6:57 am:   Edit Post

Hi bassface123

Thanks for your post. You've got mail.....

Mik
keavin
Senior Member
Username: keavin

Post Number: 470
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 6:57 am:   Edit Post

It's a "jimmy signature alembic production model" my friend.
mik
Junior
Username: mik

Post Number: 24
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 7:06 am:   Edit Post

Hi bassface123

Thanks for your post. You've got mail.....

Mik
effclef
Advanced Member
Username: effclef

Post Number: 247
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 8:24 am:   Edit Post

Thanks for the info, Mik. I looked closer at the other thread and I can see what you mean about it being confusing!

If you compare it to Clarke and King Deluxes, it doesn't quite match - but as you say, Mica called it what she called it. The bottom line is that whoever wants it needs to see if it meets the features they like.

But I can't see how it wouldn't! What a work of art. I love walnut more and more and more!

EffClef
mik
Junior
Username: mik

Post Number: 25
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 8:42 am:   Edit Post

No problem eff. I've had a lot of interest in this bass - it's a very unusual combination of many (good) things. I'll be sorry to see it go.

Agreed, the walnut on this bass is quite amazing.

Cheers

Mik
bassman10096
Senior Member
Username: bassman10096

Post Number: 640
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post

The way I've always looked at the Clark and King basses is that they (and the EVH and Jimmy Johnson) siganture models are all Signature models. Each may come as standard with a different body shape, but each "signature" body style and associated scale length is interchangable with the other "signature models" (if I'm not mistaken)for no added cost. The electronics package ("Signature") is the same, as are all (I think) other features offered on the Standard and Deluxe Signature models. Similarly, the custom quote generator includes the same set of upgraded top and back laminates at no added charge, regardless of whether you quote a bass as a Stanley Deluxe or a King Deluxe. I think it's great to designate some basses Clarks, others as Kings, EVH's, Jimmy Johnsons, etc. But when comparing available and standard features, prices etc among different Alembic models, the fact that a bass is a Signature bass seems to be the only critical thing.

Have I got that right? I can't think of any exceptions to what I've said.

Bill

the_mule
Advanced Member
Username: the_mule

Post Number: 258
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post

Hi Bill, I'm not entirely sure really. My 1991 EVH Signature doesn't carry Signature electronics (it has separate volume, low-pass filter and 3-position q-switch for each pickup and a real standby switch with indicator LED - don't have to unplug, no battery drainage). The latest EVH model 'The Fish' has customised/expanded Series II electronics.

Someone please correct me if necessary, and certainly don't take this the wrong way, but apparently the Mark King and Stanley Clarke signature models are 'standard' models, while the JJ, EVH and JPJ models up until now are customs...

Wilfred
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 1593
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post

Hm-hm ...
"signature" stands for "helping designing" in general.
Now Alembic wouldn't be Alembic if there wasn't (again) a mix-up between "model" names and "electronic" names.
See: a Rogue is in fact a model and not the name of the Electronics beacuse those came first on the Europa. Now is there FURTHER confusion of what the Alembicians mean with "electronics": does that word UNCLUDE the PU's or not. I saw recently somewhere "an Elan with JJ PU's and Europa electronics".
So ...we are in deep now.

Reminding the days that Edwin STARTED his "signature" model, he absolutely DIDN't want a VOL - PAN combination, the set-up found on the Mark King and the SC signature (as you all know the original instruments owned by those artist were Series I and II's). So the "EVH signature" electronics were NOT "signature electronics" . Edwin went for Vol, filter and Q PER PU and a PU-selector.
Another feature was the 3-position Q-switch. If I remember well the original "Signature electronics" had 2 position Q-switches.

The elctronics used on a EVH-signature model are in fact close to the "Anniversary" electronics.

Well ...I think I Lost you all now so I quit!

Paul the bad one

Oh ...and I forget that I saw A Mark King Signature with Rogue electronics on Fatboy PU's ...pretty confusing huh ....
Bwah ...the basses and guitars stay "FLIPPIN' GREAT" would Brother Mike say! Whatever they may be called
pace
Junior
Username: pace

Post Number: 42
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 4:16 pm:   Edit Post

>>>>> I saw recently somewhere "an Elan with JJ PU's and Europa electronics"

Paul, that's the one I picked up. The build sheet lists it as an Elan Plus. The "Plus" denotes the Europa electronics. According to the original owner the J p/u closest to the neck was done in place of a P at the discretion of Alembic, due to the owner's slap style, and the fact that it was a fretless.....

When using a model name to describe an electronics package, I've always took it to exclude the pickups.... but that's just me.

Im having an "Essence" "bass" built right now, but Im using parenthases for both words, because they describe the instrument rather loosely!
bassman10096
Senior Member
Username: bassman10096

Post Number: 641
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 8:20 pm:   Edit Post

Sorry guys. Apparently I did not have enough perspective on the other "signature" models to generalize the way I did. I got thinking of the Signature (MK and SC) models that way when I was planning my bass. If you don't mind me asking, Mik, what are each of the controls on your bass?
Bill
bassman10096
Senior Member
Username: bassman10096

Post Number: 642
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 8:25 pm:   Edit Post

BTW Pace, it sounds like you are customizing off the Essence model. What will your bass be like?

One of my thoughts is to build an Essence 5 string with Ebony lams and, perhaps a custom body shape (or another balance K). I use my SF-2 all the time anyway - so I ask myself why invest in putting more filters onboard?

Bill
bsee
Advanced Member
Username: bsee

Post Number: 273
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 8:26 pm:   Edit Post

It looks like staight anniversary electronics. A pickup selector, a set of vol/filter/Q switch for each pickup, and a stereo/mono output switch.
bassman10096
Senior Member
Username: bassman10096

Post Number: 643
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 9:35 pm:   Edit Post

It looked that way to me too, but I am learning not to rely on my assumptions... (LOL)
mik
Junior
Username: mik

Post Number: 26
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 9:49 am:   Edit Post

Yes, 20th Anniversary electronics. Again, the other page referred to in the link at the head of this thread has a detailed discussion of the features on this bass - the first pic makes mention of 20th Anniversary Electronics and then, further down, I go on to discuss the likenesses with and differences to the other signature models, including saying that one of the several ways this bass differs a little from the SC and MK Sigs is that it has the 20th Anniversary and not Signature electronics. So bsee is right and bassman, your assumption was a goodie too in this instance!

Looks like the bass is sold now too, so thanks to everyone for all your interest!

I still have a Jaydee Supernatural fretted 4, Curbow XT-33 fretted 6 and a Turner Renaissance RB5-FL fretless 5 to dipose of so drop me a line if interested. Thanks.

Mik
mik_walker@yahoo.com

(Message edited by mik on September 18, 2004)
pace
Junior
Username: pace

Post Number: 43
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 8:12 am:   Edit Post

Bill, I dont want to digress too much on Mik's thread (everything about your JJ sig is beautiful, btw). I hope someone else in the club can pick her up.

.... Anyways, here's whats in the works:

-30.75" 6string, 7piece ebony/purpleheart neck tuned E-A-D-G-B-E, oval inlays, crown headstock.
-SC body w/ flame maple/p.h./mahogany/p.h./flame maple construction.
-Essence electronics w/Q switch, TRS loop (for that SF-2 & some other stuff), and a pair of FatBoys.

Adding the ebony lams & changing the body style can go a long way on an Essence (if you dont need everything onboard, that is!)....

-Mike

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