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| shakeyeraz
Junior Username: shakeyeraz Post Number: 37 Registered: 11-2002 |
Well, the trade route isn't working out so I'm offering my 9-month-old King Standard 5 for sale. I need a 6-string for the project I'm working on now so here's an opportunity for someone. The details: RH 34" scale, Maple Neck, Walnut Pinstripes Ebony fingerboard, Fretted, MOP ovals, Aluminum side dots, Crown Peghead 3A Quilt Maple top laminate Mahogany body Poly Clear Gloss Bronze Logo and Script Bridge Block Bird Tailpiece All Brass hardware Gold Alembic Gotoh machine heads Gold strap locks Signature electronics Side mounted jack Hard shell Case with case candy This bass is in perfect condition - no dings, scratches, whatever. I'm asking $3600 shipped&insured within the US. Please email me for more pix and/or questions - shakeyeraz@hotmail.com. Thanks for looking.  | ||
| bsee
Advanced Member Username: bsee Post Number: 286 Registered: 3-2004 |
If you don't get prompt interest, eBay looks to be triple-O friendly at the moment. Good luck! | ||
| shakeyeraz
Junior Username: shakeyeraz Post Number: 38 Registered: 11-2002 |
Thanks - I always like to go here first - but thanks for the heads-up on ebay happenings. Regards, Kevin | ||
| shakeyeraz
Junior Username: shakeyeraz Post Number: 39 Registered: 11-2002 |
So, it's out on eBay now. I adjusted the price based upon feedback I received. To be consistent with my first post, I'll throw in shipping (US only) for anyone currently registered here that wins the auction. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4713&item=3750499328&rd=1 | ||
| pookeymp
Intermediate Member Username: pookeymp Post Number: 153 Registered: 7-2002 |
Hey Kevin, Good luck on your sale. I just recently sold my Mark King on ebay with much success...and your bass is a beauty as well...so you should get what you want. I know it hurts taking any type of loss on these basses, especially when they're so new and in such pristine condition, but that's what the market dictates...so we take our losses...cry a bit...and try to carry on.  Mikey/ | ||
| shakeyeraz
Junior Username: shakeyeraz Post Number: 40 Registered: 11-2002 |
Thanks Mikey - I appreciate the support. Someone's going to get a nice *new* bass and I'll get my 6'er. Life goes on.... | ||
| shakeyeraz
Junior Username: shakeyeraz Post Number: 41 Registered: 11-2002 |
Help! - I need more suggestions on selling this bass. The eBay auction ended with some interest but no sale. Thanks | ||
| poor_nigel
Advanced Member Username: poor_nigel Post Number: 239 Registered: 7-2003 |
Wait till Jesse is done messing around with his JPJ. IMO it is distracting people from yours. As Jesse is going to probably find out, relisted items seldom sell well. The thrill is gone, and logic starts taking over where emotion was left unchecked. I would wait a month. Your bass should sell in the range you are looking for. I am a bit surprised it did not hit $3,000. His bass has Anniversary electronics and purpleheart lams in the neck. He has also listed the bass with 5A quilted maple, which some people may believe. Don't compete. Wait a bit. The right buyer will come along in time. If eBay does not charge for relisting, leave it up another round, but . . . | ||
| pookeymp
Intermediate Member Username: pookeymp Post Number: 156 Registered: 7-2002 |
Hey Kevin, Hang in there and give it another shot in time, like Nigel said. The first time around my Mark King didn't sell either. The highest bidder came within $50 of my reserve. After the auction I contacted the highest bidder and the next highest bidder and offered it to them at their bid price...but neither took the offer. I only waited a few days before relisting, but there wasn't any other basses like mine up for sale at the time...so I took a chance. The second time I got rid of the reserve (which is pretty expensive anyway), and just started the bid at a price that I knew I could live with if I only received one bid. This time around it sold for my "Buy It Now" price, which was more than my reserve from the first auction. So, it's a bit of timing and a lot of luck (a prayer here and there goes a long way as well). Once again...good luck. Mikey/ | ||
| shakeyeraz
Junior Username: shakeyeraz Post Number: 42 Registered: 11-2002 |
Guys - this is good info and advice, thanks. I thought about doint it NR starting at a price I can live with. Maybe that's the way I'll go. I also got some feedback on the shipping cost so I may reduce that a bit after I check FedEx and UPS rates more carefully. | ||
| davehouck
Senior Member Username: davehouck Post Number: 894 Registered: 5-2002 |
Kevin's bass was listed right before Jesse's. I would guess that some people who were interested in Kevin's bass were also intereted in Jesse's bass and could not bid on both. So I'm thinking that being listed right before Jesse's bass hampered Kevin's auction. | ||
| bsee
Advanced Member Username: bsee Post Number: 311 Registered: 3-2004 |
I was thinking the opposite. That the similar basses with one looking for $7K would make the one selling for half that look particularly appealing, but it clearly didn't work out that way. | ||
| davehouck
Senior Member Username: davehouck Post Number: 895 Registered: 5-2002 |
You do have a good point, Bob. I think as Mikey suggested, patience is probably the answer. | ||
| shakeyeraz
Junior Username: shakeyeraz Post Number: 43 Registered: 11-2002 |
Thanks - I'm thinking the NR auction would be the route to go. It's impossible to tell what the market will bear at any point in time so I'll give it another try that way. Again thanks to everyone here - I really appreciate the comments and thoughts. Please keep 'em coming. k | ||
| poor_nigel
Advanced Member Username: poor_nigel Post Number: 242 Registered: 7-2003 |
Uh oh, more IMO's coming . . . Simply consider these points and then do what you deem is best for you and your bass. From my eBay experiences over the years, the market will bear more consistently twice a year. Before Christmas and when tax returns are filed and refunds are abundant. I have a real itch for a custom five-string S II with ebony neck lams since I put those 21" speakers in boxes and they just blew me away. Unbelievable depth, and the 10's really put an edge on it. I have $20,000 in vintage equipment, conservatively estimated, that I am willing to part with, and I will probably start selling stuff off next refund season. Vintage stuff seems to go at its highest then, especially for items of $1,000 and less. Really rare and/or special items have no real 'season.' Their market value is simply determined by which hard-core collectors are around at the time, and how many things they have just invested in. Note: Psychological observation. When you list a item with another, better item on auction, people will tend to mentally devalue the lesser one, though it is being sold cheaper and is a better value. Best to sell your T-Omega when no other is listed, unless yours is the rarer/better one. There are a few sane people around who would logically deduce your bass is a better buy for them, but they must all be broke right now, saving for Christmas maybe. November will be a high range for people spending money for Christmas presents, all the way up to almost Christmas Day (A weeks to ship and stuff, minimum). Refund season is more when people buy things for themselves. If your bass does not sell for what you want to get for it now, then Christmas and refund season are not that far off. This is a good time for those people who have promised themselves a high dollar item, and the significant other is much more lenient, as it Christmas time. So when will the market bear the least? After Christmas and those who owe the IRS must dig deep in pockets that Christmas emptied to try and bid on things that sellers are desperate to get rid of for the same reason. Generally, that is the best time to find things you want. This seems a bit opportunistic, but I am listening to Aqualung as I type this, so . . . Greasy fingers smearing shabby clothes & Watching little girls with bad intent! Yikes. << I need to go bad and take bonehead English >> (Message edited by poor_nigel on September 30, 2004) | ||
| bob
Advanced Member Username: bob Post Number: 331 Registered: 11-2002 |
Nigel, it's just fascinating to sit here (in warm, sunny CA) and watch your mind working. And thanks for the reminder, don't think I've listened to Aqualung in over a year (though I'm thinking Locomotive Breath). -Bob (I know, I still owe you an email response, but things have been crazy - too busy to write, as you said.) | ||
| poor_nigel
Advanced Member Username: poor_nigel Post Number: 246 Registered: 7-2003 |
Yo Bob! Ya, my mind is grinding away, all right. "I need to go 'bad' and take bonehead English" I couldn't even get that part right. All my life I heard such nice things about getting old, but the bottom line is that it pretty much sucks. Rubbing it in about the CA sun? It is suppose to get down to @ 33 degrees - like right now. Whoa, tomorrow's high will be 70! It hasn't been that high in a while. Soon that will lose a digit and be 7 degrees, then dip into the negatives at -7, and then hang at around -27 degrees or so for a while. We get wind chill factors of -60 here in the Wasteland. I imagine it gets worse farther north into Canada. I used to really get off when it got cold enough in Sacramento that a thin layer of ice would form on the water in the gutters there. Running around breaking it up barefoot was fun as a kid. However, my barefootin' days seem to be over now. Don't worry about owing anything. My 84 hour weeks are coming soon. Right now I am off a lot, and bothering everyone! | ||
| gare
Junior Username: gare Post Number: 45 Registered: 11-2003 |
Nigel We're not getting 'old', we're getting 'older'. (has a nicer sound to it) You got your cabinets together ? Any pix ? It's already getting into the high 30's in the midwest too. G | ||
| poor_nigel
Advanced Member Username: poor_nigel Post Number: 248 Registered: 7-2003 |
Hey Gare. It is too cold here already to reopen my shop to work wood. I figure the cabs will take 80 to 100 hours to build (The 21's and the 10's), which means a month or more, since I still work a day job. So I will not start until after spring thaw here - Around April.  I re-cut these JBL 718 (above) to fit the 21's. I bought these from some kid in Texas and UPS beat them to death, so I had to do the entire interior in 2x2's to make it solid again. The 18" are near mint, but I have no use for them at all now.  I used some JBL 10s I already had in cabs for the mids. Since the 718 cabs are too small for the P. Audio 21's, I have not really cranked them up, and I figured I only needed half the 10's for medium volume. So I used the pair above in the black painted oak cabs. Oak has a nice warmth for mids and highs are clear. Here is something that will bring up a subject that Bob was discussing a while ago, plus a point I read in a thread that interested me. I tri-amped these and used a couple of the 2" drivers/lenses. I usually use a real-time spectrum analyzer to set up new speaker combinations for the first time to get amp and equalizer levels in the ball park, but did it manually this time. I set the mids to crossover at 300 and the highs to cross at 6K. Then I plugged in the brown bass and went at it, fiddling as I went. The only time anything came out of the horns (I turned all the others off) was when I slapped or screwed up, and it was just noise that I would not want coming through the system, anyway. Note: I had to max the horns amp to hear this. I tried harmonics and nothin.' Therefore, I am going to have to agree with Bob that anything over 6,000 Hz is simply unneeded. Therefore, the four drivers and lenses I bought will probably be sold off, too. I wonder what frequency Eden and the other companies that use a horn are crossing it over at? I am sure the JBLs have a higher frequency range than the 10's they are using, thus the addition of the quacker horns in their cabs. Note: I set the highs to crossover at 6K and turned the horns off, and slapping and harmonics sounded great. The cool part! I read in a thread that someone was using the crossover point of the mids in their bi-amped rig to shape tone. Well, it works great! I had never thought of this before. Before it was what the analyzer sees, is what I get. I like this new trick! | ||
| gare
Junior Username: gare Post Number: 46 Registered: 11-2003 |
Most of the specs I've seen from the biggie manufacturers, the crossover is around 3K. The internal crossovers that is. According to JBL's site, the 2012H's go to 7k and the E110 to 8K. Nice cabinets..how's your back ? G | ||
| poor_nigel
Advanced Member Username: poor_nigel Post Number: 249 Registered: 7-2003 |
So now we go back to the old age subject; specifically my senility. You are correct. I wrongly listed the 2012H's as only going to 5K, when they are actually rated to 7K. My bottom is getting kinda sore from sitting corrected so much, however, I am glad I am wrong at times. As for my back, I messed it up lifting a studio grand onto a stage years ago. If I wear pants that press against the small of my back, I risk staying in bed for a week or two. If I wear overalls or pants with a stretching waistline, I can still lift half a studio grand, no problem. However, I use hand trucks these days, and no one travels with a studio grand any more, do they? If so, let the kids lift it! I don't really like horns crossed over below 4 or 5K for raw sound. Too harsh for me. I suppose having the highs crossed at around 3K is the price for having 10's that extend so low. Well, not my problem. I love what I have now, and when the new cabs get built, they will only get better! (Message edited by poor_nigel on October 01, 2004) | ||
| hollis
Advanced Member Username: hollis Post Number: 393 Registered: 11-2003 |
My father tells me old age ain't for wimps.. He's in his mid eighties and is landscaping his 5 acres himself.... well, he and his John Deer. Hey, considering the alternative, I'll take a little (all right... a LOT) of senility any day.. Here's to hand trucks! | ||
| bob
Advanced Member Username: bob Post Number: 332 Registered: 11-2002 |
Nigel, so much for alleged senility - that discussion about the value of bass rigs going beyond 6K must have been almost a year ago by now. I'm still willing to believe that Dave heard something he liked, and that's fine, but aside from slapping and similar string/fret/finger noise, the math just doesn't seem to work out. Thanks for the reassurance... but then, maybe our hearing is just starting to deteriorate, like the rest of us??? Nah, just checked - can't hear 20k and haven't for a long time, but 16 is still solid. Don't have a test tone in between, but I'd bet money on at least 17, and on a nice, clear, cold day, maybe even a glimmer of 18 :-) I was thinking about this a short time ago when you were describing your plans, but some things just have to be tried. Thanks for remembering, and sharing your observations. | ||
| davehouck
Senior Member Username: davehouck Post Number: 902 Registered: 5-2002 |
Funnily enough, I have high end hearing loss in both ears. | ||
| shakeyeraz
Junior Username: shakeyeraz Post Number: 44 Registered: 11-2002 |
Somewhere on this thread there's a bass that's still for sale! Really though I'm looking at trying eBay again but I'm open to offers from folks here. And again, thanks to everyone for their advice on selling. Interestingly enough eBay isn't looking too 'Alembic friendly' at the moment but I've been so busy that I haven't really been watching what's happening there. Thanks k | ||
| jonr1959
New Username: jonr1959 Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2004 |
Hi, If you are interested in a 6 string, I have a 1990 Elan with macassar ebony top if you are interested. I can email pictures but should point out that I live in the UK !! Please let me know if it's worth a look. J | ||
| palembic
Senior Member Username: palembic Post Number: 1712 Registered: 9-2002 |
An Elan 6 string!!! Cool!!!! Com'on Jonathan ...show us the pictures!!! Paul the bad one o-o ...a Jonathan again ...the place is getting loaded with that breed! | ||
| jonr1959
New Username: jonr1959 Post Number: 2 Registered: 10-2004 |
Hi there, Here's some pics..........  | ||
| shakeyeraz
Junior Username: shakeyeraz Post Number: 45 Registered: 11-2002 |
hmmmm. email me with any details on the bass and your thoughts on the swap. my email address is in my profile. Thanks. k | ||
| jonr1959
New Username: jonr1959 Post Number: 3 Registered: 10-2004 |
Doh.... Only uploaded one pic, I do have a lot more.Serial number is 90H5747 Fingerboard is macassar ebony too. She's truly lovely but just too narrow string spacing for me. Single LPF + Q switch If anyone wants to know more please email me on jridel@compuserve.com |
