| Author | Message | ||
| poor_nigel
Intermediate Member Username: poor_nigel Post Number: 194 Registered: 7-2003 |
Is this is, or is this ain't this bass? http://alembic.com/club/messages/403/9077.html?1080606904 Seller is in same area it was stolen from. Uh oh! | ||
| poor_nigel
Intermediate Member Username: poor_nigel Post Number: 195 Registered: 7-2003 |
The bass has already been turned into Alembic. Wow, I sure hope if one of basses gets nabbed, I get it back. Cool! | ||
| davehouck
Senior Member Username: davehouck Post Number: 864 Registered: 5-2002 |
That's definitely the same bass. Looks like a pawn shop that's selling it. | ||
| bsee
Advanced Member Username: bsee Post Number: 283 Registered: 3-2004 |
Mica knew about it within fifteen minutes of it appearing on eBay, which is less than 90 minutes ago. If she got a commitment for safe return already, that's great!!! | ||
| poor_nigel
Intermediate Member Username: poor_nigel Post Number: 197 Registered: 7-2003 |
Mica already talked to them (They contacted her after someone called them informing them it was a stolen bass) and thinks the owner will get back his bass. I think that is really great and a very good reason to feel good about the Alembic community as a whole. Not trying to be too ugly here, but I hope the thief get skinned!!!! And . . . Then let's party! Math good! Spelling, grammar bad!!! (Message edited by poor_nigel on September 20, 2004) | ||
| jalevinemd
Member Username: jalevinemd Post Number: 94 Registered: 12-2003 |
That bass is still on the auction block as of 1 minute prior to this post. | ||
| davehouck
Senior Member Username: davehouck Post Number: 867 Registered: 5-2002 |
And still receiving bids. | ||
| poor_nigel
Advanced Member Username: poor_nigel Post Number: 204 Registered: 7-2003 |
The seller is currently waiting to talk with the owner's insurance comapany and local law enforcement. If the insurance company wants it sold, the auction keeps going, otherwise the auction will be closed. This prime bass could be sold to someone here - great! I do pick the worst times to be cash poor! | ||
| davehouck
Senior Member Username: davehouck Post Number: 870 Registered: 5-2002 |
Nigel, that is certainly an interesting development. Does the owner get a say in the matter, or is the decision up to the insurance company? Now that I think about it, I guess the owner may have already replaced the bass with the proceeds from the insurance. | ||
| poor_nigel
Advanced Member Username: poor_nigel Post Number: 205 Registered: 7-2003 |
Hey Dave: Here is what I got from the seller: "I have talked to the owner and I am going to speak to his insurance company today to find out if they will be wanting to sell it.If they do and want it to stay listed I will sell if they do not I will end the auction. I am waiting to speak to law enforcement also. I should know by tomorrow I would guess.Thanks, (Name Omitted)" Logically, if the owner collected insurance on the item, it then belongs to the insurance company. I am sure the owner could give back the settlement to get the bass back, but who knows on that matter. If I was seriously interested in this bass, I would not give up on the auction, as if the insurance company gives the go ahead to sell the bass and get their cut, someone will be the proud owner of this spiffy treasure. | ||
| bsee
Advanced Member Username: bsee Post Number: 287 Registered: 3-2004 |
The owner probably got a pile of cash associated with the list/replacement cost of the bass and would have to return that to get his instrument back. We're talking about a souped-up Series II here, so that's an awful lot of money. I heard rumors that this bass was on the for sale block previously, so the owner may not have the love-it-like-a-child level of bond with the instrument. Under this set of cirumstances, the owner probably keeps the cash and the insurance company technically owns the bass. On the other hand, the insurance people probably expect to get something like $10K for the instrument. It could be a great bargain for someone if the sale is allowed to continue. -Bob | ||
| apdavis
New Username: apdavis Post Number: 3 Registered: 5-2004 |
When I contacted the seller they let me know the auction was for the bass alone, no case or other items associated. It should be interesting to know how they would ship the instrument. | ||
| bassman10096
Senior Member Username: bassman10096 Post Number: 649 Registered: 7-2003 |
Just dropped in a box full of loose popcorn? Still an incredible bargain if the auction continues... | ||
| bsee
Advanced Member Username: bsee Post Number: 289 Registered: 3-2004 |
Hmmm, what would it cost to fret this thing? The orice is starting to work upward, but it is still likely to end up as a bargain. | ||
| apdavis
New Username: apdavis Post Number: 4 Registered: 5-2004 |
If I was the fortunate winner I would whole heartedly appeal to Mica to communicate a transportation strategy. I get the feeling the owner or insurance company may pull the auction if it doesn't reach the stratospheric promise of the bass. | ||
| valvil
Moderator Username: valvil Post Number: 540 Registered: 7-2002 |
Now to make things even more confusing somebody in New York state is listing the same bass as a Mark King 5 series II. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4713&item=3750731222&rd=1 Even got 2 bids on it, up to 511$. He obviously lifted the only picture he displays from the other auction; of course his unwillingness to accept bids from outside New York is pretty odd too. Even encourages people to e-mail him their phone number so he can tell them about the bass. I despise a crook, but I despise a stupid crook even more. Valentino | ||
| bsee
Advanced Member Username: bsee Post Number: 291 Registered: 3-2004 |
Maybe he wants to make sure that once arrested, he doesn't face any federal charges for interstate fraud? The guy has a few legitimate-looking feedbacks, too, including one from last week. Still, if this guy is willing to sell the same bass for less money, you have to take him seriously!  | ||
| poor_nigel
Advanced Member Username: poor_nigel Post Number: 213 Registered: 7-2003 |
I was wondering someone to notice this. I am waiting for pictures and the Buy-It-Now price from the seller. I thought the whole deal suspicious, and compared the picture shown to those of the pawnshop's auction. Lordy, but it is the same as one of their pictures - oh shock! I notified eBay and the pawnshop. What else can one do? It is just another ripoff artist trying to con more people on eBay. eBay will not care until the pawnshop owner gets on em, probably. I have to disagree with you on the crook/stupid crook issue, Valentino, as I hate a smart crook that gets away with things. Ones this dumb are mainly just annoying. If you are going to be a crook, be a good/dumb one, so we can all feed and house you sooner! That's pretty funny Bob! Got a laugh outta me. (Message edited by poor_nigel on September 24, 2004) | ||
| davehouck
Senior Member Username: davehouck Post Number: 881 Registered: 5-2002 |
It's pretty amazing that he would lift the picture from a current auction. | ||
| lbpesq
Junior Username: lbpesq Post Number: 22 Registered: 7-2004 |
I sent the following "question" through e-bay: What an amazing coincidence! Your picture is exacly the same as one of the pictures of another Alembic bass currently on e-bay: "Alembic 5 string fretless series 2 bass guitar Item number: 3749962310". Do you have any other pictures of the bass that are exactly the same as this other auction? Or are you planning to win the other auction while simultaneously reselling it? Going for the Guiness Book of World Records for owning the best bass for the shortest time? Just wondering. I'm not holding my breath for a response. Bill, the guitar one | ||
| poor_nigel
Advanced Member Username: poor_nigel Post Number: 214 Registered: 7-2003 |
Aw dang. Now I will never get the pretty pictures he/she promised, nor will I be able to use the Buy-It-Now price to steal it away from everyone. I wonder if this is a hijacked account. They do it a lot with RealDolls on eBay. Hack into an account for the auction. List a Hotmail type of e-mail to contact them, if you want to settle the auction early. The auction disappears in a day or two, and then poof, another using exactly the same pics and message is back up, but a new Seller's account and new contact e-mail address is listed. They always want wire grams for payment. Hmmm, wonder why? Huh? What do you mean how come I know about RealDolls??? Well, I am stuck up here in the wasteland, and those silicon babes are startin to look REALLY good compared to the locals . . . | ||
| lothartu
Junior Username: lothartu Post Number: 41 Registered: 8-2003 |
Maybe the person with the second auction had walked into the pawn shop and been told "You walk in with 'x' dollars and it's yours" and the person got the bright idea to attempt to try and sell it out from under the pawn shop and make some $$$ on it. But, I mean, ... Like the pawn shop wouldn't notice?!?! Ok, I had to go do a search on RealDolls just to see what you were talking about. well... I can't come up with much to say about that other than, "You learn something new every day". (I think the oddest thing was that they actually sell posters of the dolls, that's just plain weird.) (Message edited by LotharTu on September 24, 2004) | ||
| kmh364
Senior Member Username: kmh364 Post Number: 504 Registered: 9-2003 |
Why hasn't EBAY pulled these auctions? How can two people auction the same instrument at the same time? Why haven't the cops done anything about this? If the owner has been paid an insurance claim, this is a stolen item and belongs to the insurance company. If not, it belongs to the owner, not Cap'n Pawnshop or Idiot in Tonawanda! This sh*t p*sses me off big time! | ||
| poor_nigel
Advanced Member Username: poor_nigel Post Number: 215 Registered: 7-2003 |
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1467&item=5523011260&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW Above is a link to one of the ripoff artists with a current auction going. Posters of RealDolls? Replicas of Replicas? From flesh to silicon to ink? That sounds a bit weird at that! Wow, they come in custom colors, too! I wonder if you can upgrade to ebony lams for a good stiff neck and a great tight bottom end? OK, OK, enough is enough . . . This is a family-oriented board. | ||
| poor_nigel
Advanced Member Username: poor_nigel Post Number: 216 Registered: 7-2003 |
I am sorry Kevin, by I am forced to believe that eBay does not care in the least. They have been letting the conperson with that RealDoll auction scam do it over and over for months now. They have not done a thing to stop them. If someone threatens to bring suit or get the police involved, then I believe they will do something. eBay is the largest black market and fence for stolen goods in the world! As long as eBay is making its billions and profits are going swimmingly, there will be no change in their policies, and hunting down crime messes with their bottom line. My opinion - Life is not fair, nor just. Too many people are apathetic and most will not even fight for what they believe in anymore, as they firmly believe it will do no good. And usually they are right. It is sad, but that is no reason to give up. We just have to do what we can, and maybe in the long run it will make a difference. |
