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marcushaze
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Username: marcushaze

Post Number: 1
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 1:02 pm:   Edit Post

hey there, i'm selling a DS-5R on ebay right now, if anyone is interested. thanks, marcus
poor_nigel
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Username: poor_nigel

Post Number: 382
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 1:33 pm:   Edit Post

What is the extra switch on the front panel for? How come two five pin jacks? Curiouser and curiouser . . . Double tapped for two basses? Cool! Almost hit the buy it now, but . . . 40 volts? Not today.

I do, however, like the animal pictures - cute kitty!

(Message edited by poor_nigel on November 11, 2004)
marcushaze
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Username: marcushaze

Post Number: 2
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 1:49 pm:   Edit Post

the 40 volt rating is just what my tester tells me...one lead puts out 20+ volts to ground and the other puts out 20- volts to ground. testing accross the two gets 40. i called alembic about it, but they're just now tooling up to post pdf manuals and spec sheets and the guy i talked to didn't know the specs. i'm sure it puts out what it's supposed to because the ratings are consistent. and yeah, it has dual inputs with the horizontal toggle switching from right to left inputs(both are stereo and powered from the same points internally). clean as a whistle...thanks!
76ac070
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Username: 76ac070

Post Number: 74
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 2:16 pm:   Edit Post

I already took the item - I tested my "blue box" (#332 which came with 76AC070) and the voltages DO match. Just posting this as an FYI for future reference.

8>)
poor_nigel
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Username: poor_nigel

Post Number: 383
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 2:48 pm:   Edit Post

Hey Chris. Enjoy. I have one, so I did not pursue this aggressively. I did not figure it would last long, if the voltages were correct. Neat addition to it. I might do this to mine. Glad a member here got it!
apdavis
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Username: apdavis

Post Number: 16
Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 3:12 pm:   Edit Post

I hope I'm wrong but the item description follows the reported theft in Bellingham
http://alembic.com/club/messages/403/9077.html?1080606904

I contacted the seller about it after asking if they could reply with the serial number information, but they said they couldn't find any.
Adam
poor_nigel
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Username: poor_nigel

Post Number: 384
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 3:25 pm:   Edit Post

The box looked factory done. If so, how many did Alembic make? There may have been several made and scattered around. Where is the seller located? The auction just disappeared out of My eBay view, so I could not check. It should have been listed in things I 'Didn't Win,' but isn't. Curiouser and curiouser . . . yet again. No harm checking, though.

Found it. The seller is from Bellingham, Washington. If this is the stolen one listed, makes me wonder who might have sold the F-2B on eBay? Not much unique about one of those.

(Message edited by poor_nigel on November 11, 2004)
lbpesq
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Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 143
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 3:44 pm:   Edit Post

If you go to the e-bay listing and click on "view seller's other items" , you will see that he is also seling a "LINE 6 BASS POD PRO RACK". Then go to the above-referenced club thread and you will see that a "BassPod pro (sn (21) BPP1A5112000539)" was also stolen. Two identical stolen items, both from Bellingam? Looks awful suspicious to me.

Bill, tgo
apdavis
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Username: apdavis

Post Number: 17
Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 3:47 pm:   Edit Post

The dual aspect caught my eye, and then the bass pod equipment really inclined me to suspect and then the location being the same. It just is too close to the missing items not to be curious about it somehow being the same equipment. I hope Chris doesn't get tagged with the insurance company follow up.
Adam
poor_nigel
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Username: poor_nigel

Post Number: 385
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 3:52 pm:   Edit Post

Where is Bob or the Sherrif when you need them? - OK, get a rope and we'll try him right after the hanging! It does not look promising. If someone has contact info for the original owner, he should be gotten ahold of to check this out. Best to check and find things out first, then hang em all!

Note: I am joking here Marccus. Good eye Adam and logic Bill!

BTW - Anyone contact the Belleview Police to investigate this matter? Is that an Alembic function?

(Message edited by poor_nigel on November 11, 2004)
apdavis
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Username: apdavis

Post Number: 18
Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 4:05 pm:   Edit Post

I called Valentino right after I grew suspicious and showed him what I was talking about via the web, I tried contacting Frank via the club contact but haven't heard anything...
I just think Marcus unfortunately might be the first honest person to come across the gear.
Adam
poor_nigel
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Username: poor_nigel

Post Number: 386
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 4:21 pm:   Edit Post

The seller might be honest, indeed. This is not the first bass pod he has sold, either:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=23790&item=3748976410

He might be (probably) like the pawn shop owner that ended up selling the stolen bass. That person was honest and ended up selling it for the insurance company. Same thing might happen here, and I will certainly not get in Chris' way should this happen. It is his, as far as I am concerned. Others, well he is on his own there. I do hope this gets straightened out and all parties become happy campers, like in the case of Understated Elegance.
apdavis
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Username: apdavis

Post Number: 19
Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 4:31 pm:   Edit Post

Looks like the same picture of the rack in his current sale of the bass pod.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=23790&item=3760250453&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
bsee
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Username: bsee

Post Number: 456
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 4:39 pm:   Edit Post

Sorry, I just track basses. Good catch here, though!
poor_nigel
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Username: poor_nigel

Post Number: 387
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 4:54 pm:   Edit Post

Hey Adam. That's strange, as he got positive feedback from the buyer on the first pod. Maybe it was returned for some reason? Maybe he is using the same pics from the first sale? Curiouser, indeed.

Well, answers will filter down soon enough. That is a given.
apdavis
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Username: apdavis

Post Number: 20
Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 4:57 pm:   Edit Post

Stock pictures of the same item. Makes sense.
lbpesq
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Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 144
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 5:19 pm:   Edit Post

I just e-mailed the person who bought the Bass POD in September from the same seller using the same pix. I'll advise of his response if I receive one. Once again, I'm starting to feel like Monk. (Here's another plug: great show, check it out).

Bill, tgo
valvil
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Username: valvil

Post Number: 569
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 5:20 pm:   Edit Post

Marcus called us at Alembic this morning to ask some technical questions, and I was the person he refers to above who could not give him the tech details. We had a plesant conversation, and he mentioned that he got a deal on a rack of gear, but that since he did not have any Alembics he did not need the DS5R; he was about to post on e-bay and was trying to gather as much info as possible to get ready for the questions he figured he would get.
I suggested this forum to him as a quick and sure way to sell it.
Adam later called me after the item was listed on E-bay and pointed out that Marcus was also selling the Bass Pod Pro, and that it seemed likely that those came from the rack stolen from Frank a while back along with the now-recovered Understated Elegance.
If, as it seems, this stuff came from Frank's rack then I'll throw in my 2 cent gut feeling that Marcus bought the rack with no idea that it was stolen.

Valentino
76ac070
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Username: 76ac070

Post Number: 75
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 6:13 pm:   Edit Post

WOW! Now I really feel bad. Having been the victim, at one time, of having 76AC070 stolen from me (and later on recovered, thankfully) I know how violated one feels when it happens. The LAST thing that I want to do is possibly perpetuate a potential fraud perpetrated on someone. Which puts me in a "ticklish" sitiuation - now that I have already paid for the DS-5R. I suppose that I'll have to "lurk" about here until some additional information is reported. In any event, if anyone DOES determine that the DS-5R was pilfered - please inform me ASAP as I will be more than willing to see justice served, even if it costs me in the doing!

Regards to all

CHris
poor_nigel
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Username: poor_nigel

Post Number: 389
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 6:36 pm:   Edit Post

Hey Chris. Marcuss seems like an honest guy. Don't sweat it. If it turns out to be stolen, it will probably end up being sold by him for the insurance company (or whatever settlement is determined) and he will then sell it to you or refund you your money. He was not trying to hide anything on here or when he called Alembic, and he does have excellent eBay feedback. Frank was probably paid for the rack stuff too, in his settlement. So I cannot see anyone losing here, except for maybe the insurance company. Ya, like they 'lose' money?!
marcushaze
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Username: marcushaze

Post Number: 3
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 11:56 pm:   Edit Post

talk to my girlfriend about insurance companies losing money...after driving for 14 years(and yes, she was very tired after all that time!) she got in the first accident she's ever had. three days later she got a completely unrelated notice from Mutual of Enumclaw (Mutu-Hell of The Evil Claw) that her policy had been retroactively cancelled due to a bank error. Her ass remains out in the wind while the insurance comissioner investigates. But more to the task at hand.....

and to clear the air before you bass-totin' villagers light all that tinder piled beneath my feet, I do believe this may be the unit they are looking for... And, at the same pawnshop I bought it from I did see: 1- the bass pod pro(and yes, i used the previous picture from another unit to sell it- both were/are mint and i am/are/be lazy), 2- the korg tuner(same serial #'s, looks like I am the father after all!), 3- an skb rack(4-space if I remember(?),NOT the one in my ebay listing- that's mine, stole it m'self!(joke, laugh here)). these items are now on police hold pending an investigation. thank me later...

after talking with the manager i believe that there are other items in their posession that were received from the same individual as everything stated above, with the exception of the power supply. it would seem that the power supply was pawned or sold by a different person(although much of what i believe i know was gleaned from that which was NOT said during our conversation, as he cannot legally divulge personal information about people to me as I am not the police last I checked).

So as for my intentions.....unfortunately the power supply has no serial # and i already spent the money from it's sale on a vet bill for my cat(the black one in the listing, quite ironically..he got tangled up in $262 worth of barbed wire the other day and has a shaved Franken-Kitty belly full of stitches right now). since the victim of the theft has apparently already made a claim with his insurance company i intend to do the only thing i think makes sense:wait. ethically speaking, what can i do? my listing this thing and doing the research and footwork should result in the recovery of about $2500 worth of gear for the insurance company...should i feel bad for them? perhaps they have some pull with Mutual of Enumclaw... should i expect a frickin' reward? do i ship it and just wash my hands of the whole thing? why do crackheads have to ruin it for the rest of us hard-working slobs?

i'm sure you'll all chime in, so let's take the mic out in the audience....

Large Man in Hawaiian Shirt:"Jerry, he needs to leave her welfare ass. She lazy, Jerry! Look at her"

Woman on Stage(standing):"Oh no you didn't; oh no you did not just say that..."

and so on....

marcus
poor_nigel
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Username: poor_nigel

Post Number: 391
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Friday, November 12, 2004 - 1:24 am:   Edit Post

Gimme that mic Jerry! You need to dump that zero and get yourself a hero!

"why do crackheads have to ruin it for the rest of us hard-working slobs?" You got that right Marcus. Unfortunately, bad things do happen to good people. I hope your girlfriend was not hurt in the accident. The price of integrity is to eat the bad with the good that comes our way.

Ethically speaking, it should be Chris's decision if he wants a refund, or if he wants to ride it out and maybe get the power supply in the end. He made the purchase in good faith, and obviously PayPal'd you immediately. Waiting for the confirmation of who's property the power supply is - Frank's, the insurance company's, or yours - seems reasonable.

This is a public forum, so often matters that seem private do get discussed. The only sparks I will let fly at the tinder under your feet are that I do not believe you could have already spent Chris' money, as PayPal does not instantly deposit into a seller's account (they make some of their money by holding the funds for a day or two - They do instantly take money from the buyer's account), from my understanding and experiences with PayPal, and I believe it is the seller's responsibility to take care of his or her customers when things go wrong.
76ac070
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Username: 76ac070

Post Number: 76
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, November 12, 2004 - 4:41 am:   Edit Post

FYI - I have taken some "precautionary" measures and am trying, in earnest, to sort through all of this with the Seller. I feel that this forum should not be the venue for my attempts. As such, I am conducting my affairs privately. I will, however, make a report when everything is "settled". Of course, if anything of an urgent nature arises - Mica and Susan know how to find me! Thanks for everyones help to-date.

Chris
marcushaze
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Username: marcushaze

Post Number: 4
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 9:17 am:   Edit Post

thanks for your input everyone, issue resolved. it's chris' baby now(today in the east a child is born....)
and for the record: paypal does make money immediately available, depending on the source. in this case it was there as soon as chris bought the unit and i took it out and i spent it, as was my right and perogative(no offense taken, simply answering all issues raised). i believe the hold times are there when the funds are coming to paypal indirectly, like from another bank account or a credit card. my assumption is that chris had the coins in his paypal piggy and could therefore spend it directly. 'nuf said.....AND;
my girlfriend's insurance recapitulated and recanted their evil afformentioned crap. hoo-frickin'-ray, they eat some crow and we don't have to eat top ramen for the rest of our lives to cover their stupid greedy assets!
peace
apdavis
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Username: apdavis

Post Number: 21
Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post

Any word about the fences? Police action? Large boots being applied to those most deserving?
Adam
poor_nigel
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Username: poor_nigel

Post Number: 432
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post

Outstanding! I am glad it worked out for you all, especially your girlfriend on her accident claim. I like Top Ramen - to a point . . . .

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