| Author | Message | ||
| bassface123
New Username: bassface123 Post Number: 4 Registered: 7-2004 |
Alembic series one 34" scale/standard point body, AAAA-grade figured maple/chrome hardware, great condition w/pwr supply,cable, hsc etc...$3300....No trades please.... | ||
| bsee
Senior Member Username: bsee Post Number: 589 Registered: 3-2004 |
Are photos available somewhere? thanks- | ||
| davehouck
Senior Member Username: davehouck Post Number: 1104 Registered: 5-2002 |
Bob; I think I remember seeing pictures of this bass, maybe it was on Ebay at some point. The reason I think I've seen it is that Brad listed his bass here last October; and that post includes the description of the two screws in the body where a different bridge was once installed. And I think I recall seeing a picture of a Series bass with two screws in the body; but it could just be my imagination. Maybe I'm just remembering the original post. http://alembic.com/club/messages/395/13090.html?1096655171 Yes, pictures would be helpful!<g> | ||
| davehouck
Senior Member Username: davehouck Post Number: 1108 Registered: 5-2002 |
Bob; he put this bass up on Ebay this morning. There are three pics. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4713&item=3770819423&rd=1 | ||
| bsee
Senior Member Username: bsee Post Number: 596 Registered: 3-2004 |
hmm - and no longer disclosing the extra holes or showing them in any photo? That seems very questionable to me. If I remember it correctly, the holes were almost a non-issue because of where they are located, but they shouldn't be a surprise to the buyer. -Bob | ||
| bassface123
New Username: bassface123 Post Number: 5 Registered: 7-2004 |
To everybody in question,,,,yes this bass has two small holes between the bridge/tailpiece where the previous owner had put a wilkinson bridge on top of the sustain block. There are two small screws in the holes because I felt it looked better to leave them in, rather than have two holes in the wood....There are no indentations or marks from the previous bridge and does not affect playability whatsoever and at this price, somebody would have to be a fool to discount this bass..... | ||
| bsee
Senior Member Username: bsee Post Number: 597 Registered: 3-2004 |
The price isn't unreasonable, but it's also no great bargain relative to the used market. It didn't sell last time, and the price has come down, but you're in the holiday season. Several people have commented on the current price depression for used gear right now. It's a buyers market, and the price you get for it today will probably be less than you might get if you sold in six months. Either way, it would be a mistake to attempt to sell the bass without a full and honest disclosure of condition, either here or on eBay. I remember better photos that showed the holes/screws in place the last time this bass was tried on eBay. Are you going to update that listing as well? | ||
| poor_nigel
Senior Member Username: poor_nigel Post Number: 464 Registered: 7-2003 |
Shame this bass was made just before the series electronics upgrade was done. I must a fool, as I discount for holes in a bass that are not supposed to be there. Being a person who not that long ago bought a bass with such holes, let it be known that I do not think such a thing elimates the thought of buying, but does tend to lower the price a touch. Not as much as possibly needing the series electronics upgrade, though. | ||
| jagerphan84
Intermediate Member Username: jagerphan84 Post Number: 141 Registered: 10-2003 |
When I am looking at a bass on eBay in "excellent condition," I usually assume that means it doesn't have any holes in it. I personally would prefer to lose money on a sale and have a satisfied buyer, rather than misrepresenting the item to squeeze out a few extra dollars. | ||
| lothartu
Member Username: lothartu Post Number: 79 Registered: 8-2003 |
No offense intended but here's my honest opinion... If I bought this bass and it showed up on my doorstep with those screws/screw-holes in it and I didn't know anything about them before the puchase because the seller didn't feel it was important enough to mention then I would probably blow my top. | ||
| bsee
Senior Member Username: bsee Post Number: 616 Registered: 3-2004 |
There's been no change to the eBay listing and it has a bid now. Not sure if it's one of our own, but I hope they are bidding with knowledge of the actual condition of the instrument. | ||
| richbass939
Member Username: richbass939 Post Number: 59 Registered: 11-2004 |
The posts in the Club show that we're basically a bunch of nice and respectful people. But we do stand up and protect each other when it is called for. I'm really new here and I appreciate it. Thanks, everyone. Rich P.S. Thursday afternoon, three days after bassface acknowledged that there are screws in the top and the e-bay listing still doesn't mention them. Rather, it still says "all in excellent condition". His real estate website says "integrity" right at the top of the page. Hmmmm. (Message edited by richbass939 on December 23, 2004) | ||
| bassface123
New Username: bassface123 Post Number: 6 Registered: 7-2004 |
To richbass939 and anyone else who questions my integrity, let me say this...Anybody who is serious about this bass has or will contact me regarding specifics and will get all questions answered....Period. The reason I do not go into specifics about the bass on ebay is for that very reason...I got tired of answering stupid or not so stupid questions from people who have no intention or ability to purchase the instrument. My time is too precious, and it seemed the more I described the bass, the more stupid questions I got. For the record, I have a perfect history as far as instruments and real estate sales are concerned, whether on ebay or anywhere else, I understand disclosure very well, you don't sell a $750000-home and have no liability! I do not appreciate the spin some have put on this disclosure thing. You also mention my real estate website which has nothing to do with selling this bass...There is a name for non-buyer commentors... "Looky-Loo"...PS: Let it be known that anyone interested in this bass will have a 48-hour inspection-full refund -shipping costs, if not satisfied...BC | ||
| jagerphan84
Intermediate Member Username: jagerphan84 Post Number: 143 Registered: 10-2003 |
Just as a hypothetical situation, say someone emailed you from eBay with a few questions about the instrument which indicated that they were serious (i.e. asking for the serial number, if it has had the electronics upgrade, etc), would you volunteer the information about the screws in the top? Seems that a serious buyer could still end up receiving this bass with no knowledge of a significant flaw. If the real estate has nothing to do with selling a bass, there's no need to bring up the liability involved in selling a '$750000-home.' Potential buyers in the situation have to base your liability on the content of your listing, which is incomplete at best given the condition of the instrument. Since only one person can be the buyer, you must deal with a lot of us 'looky-loos.' | ||
| richbass939
Member Username: richbass939 Post Number: 74 Registered: 11-2004 |
To bassface123 and anyone else who questions the need to give the full story when advertising something for sale. You can "spin" this all you want. We all watched you try to sell this bass a few months ago. You showed pictures of the screws and mentioned them in the blurb. You mentioned the belt buckle rash. You described the wood as AAA or AAAA. You tried to get $3600. You failed to sell it. Last week it was advertised for sale in a sight-unseen, buyer-beware medium for $3100 to $3300. I'm sure it bothered you that you had to mark it down $300 to $500; it would bother anybody. So now the belt buckle rash has become irrelevant. The question about the AAA or AAAA wood has been resolved. It is AAAA. Screws, what screws? Playability is not affected by 2 screws anyway, so that doesn't matter anymore. A person could take a hammer to the top of an Alembic and it probably would not affect its playability or great sound. But only a fool would think that it would not affect its value. Your real estate website has nothing to do with selling this bass but it has everything to do with you. You are making a claim about yourself that doesn't hold water in the context of selling this bass. You started this string thinking that this club is populated with people who can't remember past last week and wouldn't know that you put some spin on this bass. You were busted but I don't think you care. Someone bought your bass. I'm sure the buyer will be pleased with the bass. Enjoy the $3100. Richbass939 | ||
| ajdover
Intermediate Member Username: ajdover Post Number: 162 Registered: 11-2003 |
Bassface, I can't speak as to whether folks are questioning your integrity or not. I can say, however, that the folks in this club are smarter than the average bear. They know that Alembics are tracked by serial number, that certain models come with certain features, etc., and that if they're going to spend a fair amount of money ($3100 in this case), they want to know all about the instrument before purchasing. Not unreasonable, I should think. All this being said, "looky loos" are common everywhere, everyday, across this great land of ours. I've been a "looky loo" one day, and come back the next to purchase the item, in large part due to how I was treated the first time I was at an establishment (think new car). If I felt the purveyor was honest, someone I could trust, and felt they could provide me with the product I sought at a fair price (to me and them), I came back and spent my cash. If, on the other hand, I felt that the purveyor was less than forthright, I walked and took my business elsewhere. The members of this club are no different. They're not questioning integrity, as it were, but just trying to make sure they're getting what they're paying for. Again, no different in day to day life. Speaking for myself only, I could care less about your real estate business, since it doesn't apply to the matter at hand (a bass). I'm sure you're successful at it, and that's great. What I would care about as a potential buyer is that the description is as accurate as possible. If it isn't, and I ask questions, and I'm treated as a "looky loo" (for the record, I own three Alembics, each valued at more than $5K), I walk. And you've lost a sale due to a pre-conceived notion. Regards, Alan |
