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lbpesq
Intermediate Member Username: lbpesq
Post Number: 197 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Sunday, December 19, 2004 - 6:36 pm: | |
There is an allegedly 1971 "pre-serial numbers" Series 1 guitar on e-bay. The seller claims to have e-mailed Alembic where it was verified and appraised @ $10,000. I haven't heard that Alembic made non-serial number instruments in 1971, but then there's lots of things I haven't heard of. here is the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2384&item=3770690024&rd=1 Perhaps Valentino or Susuan could give us the scoop on this one (Mica, as I understand it, is blissfully out of the loop for a few days). Bill, tgo |
davehouck
Senior Member Username: davehouck
Post Number: 1106 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Sunday, December 19, 2004 - 9:57 pm: | |
I was staring at that earlier today. It's a nice looking guitar. The tuning pegs kinda don't look like they are lined up right. The nut doesn't appear to be brass. The bridge appears much newer than a '71. But the brown pickups look pretty early. Since there is no serial number, perhaps it was an employee's guitar. |
keavin
Senior Member Username: keavin
Post Number: 533 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 5:23 am: | |
That cant be a 1971,that bridge is not a 71, and i dont think anything before my (old #12) looked newer than mine,plus alembic numbered everything from number 1 and up!but it is indeed an alembic but an employees project (probably).or maybe the seller doesnt know the serial no is on the top of the peghead. |
bsee
Senior Member Username: bsee
Post Number: 595 Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 5:54 am: | |
If there's no serial number, how does he know it's a '71? |
dela217
Senior Member Username: dela217
Post Number: 487 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 6:05 am: | |
Well, when I took a look at it, there are some things that don't make sense. First of all, it has PF6 electronics. The PF6 card was not around until 1974. Hmmm. If I were to guess on it's age, I would say that it was a 1974 and had it's dummy pickup replaced. I seem to remember that in 74 the dummy pickups had a screw in the middle of them holding them into the body. It could also be an early 75 too. If it were a 71, the logo on the headstock would be inlaid. The nut would be scalloped and the electronics would be much different. It would probably have clear pickups! But I don't think any instruments were made in 71 anyway. |
keavin
Senior Member Username: keavin
Post Number: 534 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 6:13 am: | |
Yes the first four or five instruments were made in 71.(alembic#1)was indeed a 71. |
lbpesq
Intermediate Member Username: lbpesq
Post Number: 198 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 6:52 am: | |
I would certainly wait for some confirmation from the Alembic elves before I would consider bidding on this guitar. One thing (among the others mentioned above) that has me concerned and a little suspicious are the poor quality photos - out of focus and covered with shadows. It's almost like the shadows were deliberate. I e-mailed the seller for info on electronics, history, and more photos. No response yet. Bill, tgo |
smichaels
Junior Username: smichaels
Post Number: 35 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 12:21 pm: | |
If there's no serial number I would guess that this is an employee "shop night" creation. |
valvil
Moderator Username: valvil
Post Number: 603 Registered: 7-2002
| Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 3:30 pm: | |
I am pretty sure I did not communicate with the seller myself, although it sounds like he may have been in contact with Mica; I noticed the same things Michael did, the new logo, newer bridge, the card and so on. To me it looks more like a later 70's model that might have some non-original parts. That logo looks very 'modern' to me. Most shop-night instruments do not generally get a logo; if the employee wants to buy one to put on, he can, but most don't bother. Of course I have no idea if those were the same rules that were in effect during the 70's. Another possibility would be that the serial number has completely faded and can't be seen. Still, a nice instrument. Valentino |