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bassman8416
Intermediate Member
Username: bassman8416

Post Number: 158
Registered: 5-2012
Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2015 - 2:34 pm:   Edit Post

I am seriously considering selling my Sf-2. I will get some pics up tomorrow. I have had it a few months, but really need the money. Works like it should. I need to get what I paid.
$630 Shipped!!!
elwoodblue
Senior Member
Username: elwoodblue

Post Number: 1570
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2015 - 4:21 pm:   Edit Post

You'll find another in time, best wishes for a quick sale.
(funny how the punctuation in the title
translates to a frowny face :-) )
rustyg61
Senior Member
Username: rustyg61

Post Number: 1575
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2015 - 5:41 pm:   Edit Post

For anyone who doesn't have an SF-2, I can't recommend them highly enough! They are truly the magic box that provides the missing ingredient to the sound you are trying to get. I use mine to mainly get more punch out of my rig, whether I'm using my full Eden stack or my Fender Rumble 350 combo. I can dial in the punch in any room with about an 1/8th turn of the frequency control on the low channel, then use the dampening ratio to either fatten up the bottom or get rid of boomy bottom in some rooms. Then I use the high channel to give me an edge on the highs in high pass mode, then flip the switch to low pass mode to get a really nice midrange tone when we play Journey songs that need that sound.

$630 is a great price for this amazing piece of equipment! They list for $1675 new & are very hard to find used.
smokin_dave
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Username: smokin_dave

Post Number: 415
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2015 - 6:34 pm:   Edit Post

+1 for what Rusty wrote.I've had mine for 21 years and won't leave home without it but fear not bassman.Another will find it's way to you again.I can sympathize with your situation as I recently was forced to sell one of my cabinets but I have faith that I can replace it in the future.
bassman8416
Intermediate Member
Username: bassman8416

Post Number: 159
Registered: 5-2012
Posted on Monday, March 23, 2015 - 9:52 am:   Edit Post

Thanks guys!!!!
hieronymous
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Username: hieronymous

Post Number: 1481
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Monday, March 23, 2015 - 7:58 pm:   Edit Post

I actually traded away an SF-2 that was included in the sale when I got my doubleneck - did end up finding another one so it is possible!

I have used mine a lot for recording, but never got it worked into a live rig (though admittedly I haven't had much of a chance). Sometimes I visualize using it just for one low pass filter so that I can use it with non-Alembic basses.

I hope you work things out so that either you don't need to sell it or get another one later!
sonicus
Senior Member
Username: sonicus

Post Number: 3992
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Monday, March 23, 2015 - 9:31 pm:   Edit Post

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(Message edited by sonicus on March 23, 2015)
sonicus
Senior Member
Username: sonicus

Post Number: 3993
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Monday, March 23, 2015 - 9:33 pm:   Edit Post

I Like my Alembic SF-2 coupled with my old Alembic IN-2 . I currently like this combination directly to a power-amp and to the recording or FOH board or all simultaneously. In my opinion a combinations of the two units would be a winner for all applications of studio and live applications .

in-2
slawie
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Username: slawie

Post Number: 744
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Monday, March 23, 2015 - 9:48 pm:   Edit Post

That picture of the IN-2 brings a tear to my eye.
Definitely the golden unicorn of Alembic and my personal "holy grail"
Mega envy there Wolf
rustyg61
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Username: rustyg61

Post Number: 1583
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Monday, March 23, 2015 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post

Wolf, you should start a thread titled "Alembic Artifacts" & post pictures of all your historical Alembic gear! You have some really cool stuff!
sonicus
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Username: sonicus

Post Number: 3995
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Monday, March 23, 2015 - 10:14 pm:   Edit Post

Slawie, NO intentions to make you sad my friend but only voicing my opinion that a combination of the two would be a spectacular winner in all circles for future production in my opinion. I hope that all is well with you .

Wolf
sonicus
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Username: sonicus

Post Number: 3996
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Monday, March 23, 2015 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post

Rusty , I hope you are doing well . Thanks . I am actually thinking of doing exactly as you suggested . I really do have a 40 or more year collection of gear that the folks here might enjoy . The problem is more stuff keeps showing up . My new to me Alembic 73-32 will be the first to show quite soon in a thread all her own . ( sorry no hi jack intended )
rustyg61
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Username: rustyg61

Post Number: 1584
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2015 - 12:21 am:   Edit Post

Wolf I'm doing great & hope that you are as well! I have had the pleasure of seeing some of your collection in person & I know that people would love to see pictures! Every time I see a picture of the "Wall Of Sound" I smile & think to myself "I've seen one of those boxes in person!"

I didn't know you were getting another Alembic?! What kind? With that serial number, will it look like Keavin's #12? I can't wait to see pictures!
sonicus
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Username: sonicus

Post Number: 3998
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2015 - 7:05 am:   Edit Post

Hello Rusty, I will start a thread for it soon . It has an" Alembic Small Standard Shape ".
rustyg61
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Username: rustyg61

Post Number: 1585
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2015 - 1:38 pm:   Edit Post

Awesome! Is it a Series I?
sonicus
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Username: sonicus

Post Number: 3999
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2015 - 2:08 pm:   Edit Post

Rusty , Series I plus +. You will see what I mean in the soon to be thread . I will have pictures and stories . :-)
moongerm
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Username: moongerm

Post Number: 145
Registered: 8-2013
Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2015 - 2:22 pm:   Edit Post

Nice Wolf!
slawie
Senior Member
Username: slawie

Post Number: 745
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2015 - 2:53 pm:   Edit Post

Hey Wolf mate I don't feel sad about it - just "Jonesing"
The SF-2 and IN-2 would make a great combination.
Next time I am in the Bay area I am gong to look you up and see if we can meet and sonically collaborate.
I had the opportunity to make a bid on a IN-2 just recently (last year) but was beaten to the purchase.
Wait a minute that was you!

slawie
sonicus
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Username: sonicus

Post Number: 4000
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2015 - 3:36 pm:   Edit Post

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(Message edited by sonicus on March 24, 2015)
sonicus
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Username: sonicus

Post Number: 4001
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2015 - 3:38 pm:   Edit Post

Sorry Slawie, I had to comply to the sellers conditions " as is and final" and it was not cheap $$. I figured that I might have to do some repairs at some point.
I think I actually waited for you to make a move on the unit as I remember and then during a " question phone call" with the seller the deal materialized in all honesty. Slawie , social sonic collaboration is welcome next time you are in my neck of the woods . I will buy you lunch as well !

Wolf
slawie
Senior Member
Username: slawie

Post Number: 746
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2015 - 4:01 pm:   Edit Post

No worries my friend.
I am only running a stick across your picket fence regarding the IN-2
I will get one eventually.
edwin
Senior Member
Username: edwin

Post Number: 1952
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2015 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post

I wonder how hard it would be to build an IN-2....
sonicus
Senior Member
Username: sonicus

Post Number: 4003
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 1:38 am:   Edit Post

Edwin ,
I rebuilt one of mine . Serial # 24 . The sum of parts are not cheap in the original units. I had Acopian custom make me a part that was no longer available. Both of the IN-2's that I have seen have regulated power circuitry in design . You will also need high quality audio transformers for the passive balanced output interfacing, The original ones were UTC. Lundahl can supply such replacements in design and quality. You will spend $$$$ in parts total to match the original units in quality. Been there done that . I think you can do it for your own private use, but to build a comparable unit , the parts are all pricy . Alembic did not cut any corners on these . Fitting it all in a one space unit rack mount enclosure was also part of the trick. I made it by 1/32nd " on the interior dimension on the rebuild. I had to make a thinner insulating stand off by 1/16" to do that . It was all fun and a labour of love in the long run. It seems that many of my selected projects are such challenges. Refurbishment of classic equipment is a joy .

(Message edited by sonicus on March 25, 2015)
slawie
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Username: slawie

Post Number: 747
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 1:45 am:   Edit Post

I probably could but definately would not.
I would feel like I was insulting the Wickershams
slawie
sonicus
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Username: sonicus

Post Number: 4004
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 1:58 am:   Edit Post

Slawie , I agree . That is why I would not show an opened picture of an IN-2 . I just repaired mine for my own personnal use . I would never build one to " Market it " and I would NOT accept any Alembic units for repair either. :-)

Wolf
slawie
Senior Member
Username: slawie

Post Number: 748
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 3:24 am:   Edit Post

Sorry for the hijack.

HEY YOU! BUY CRAIGS SF-2
synapticgroove
New
Username: synapticgroove

Post Number: 4
Registered: 3-2015
Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 5:35 am:   Edit Post

Do you guys think running this SF-2 in-between an Epic and a Markbass Little Mark Tube 800 would be a fairly ideal setup? I've taken to not using a lot of rack gear lately, but I still enjoy it!

I'm in the process of saving up for a Series instrument, but, as you can see from the picture, I love tone shaping! :-)

Nice Rack

(Message edited by synapticgroove on March 25, 2015)
jazzyvee
Senior Member
Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 4442
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 7:54 am:   Edit Post

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bassman8416
Intermediate Member
Username: bassman8416

Post Number: 162
Registered: 5-2012
Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 8:07 am:   Edit Post

No worries Slawie, with all this praising, I am trying to find a way to keep it. I was hit with a 1099 form a band after I filed my taxes....hoping I can figure out enough write offs to avoid paying more money to the gov. Hey has anyone here ever used a Meyer cp-10 equalizer? Can you cut and boost like an Sf-2 or is this apple and oranges.
sonicus
Senior Member
Username: sonicus

Post Number: 4006
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 9:15 am:   Edit Post

A Meyer CP-10 is a Parametric Equalizer. A parametric equalizer is NOT the same as an Alembic SF-2 which is an ingenious piece of equipment that utilizes" State Variable Filter "principles adapted in the most musically pleasing format that I have encountered. I also own Laboratory grade filters such as those made by Krohn-Hite that cannot touch an Alembic SF-2 for live musical performance use. I have also had Pluto Filters that were also adaptations of " State Variable Filters "! That was 30 years ago . The Alembic SF-2 Super Filter is here and now !

A Meyer CP-10 is an excellent tool as well , As are many other available Parametric EQ's RTA's and RTA programs. The Apples & Oranges view point can be applied here in comparison to what The Alembic SF-Super Filter does. When I have an SF-2 connected , I treat it as part of the instrument its self. That result becomes the sound that I desire in that moment.
You could also have a Parametric in the signal path as well doing a separate job with an RTA or RTA program. You can even set up a calibration microphone to do this and dial in the room .

I own and have used many different PARAMETRIC Eq's NONE do exactly what the Alembic SF-2 Super Filter can offer a musician for live performance use .

Wolf



(Message edited by sonicus on March 25, 2015)
pasewark
Advanced Member
Username: pasewark

Post Number: 251
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 9:25 am:   Edit Post

A stack of Meyer CP-10s were available on Ebay recently for $600 each. If I had some cash, I would have purchased one.
sonicus
Senior Member
Username: sonicus

Post Number: 4007
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 9:27 am:   Edit Post

Sir "Synapticgroove" ____ In my opinion ; An Alembic SF-2 would greatly enhance any combination of instruments and amplification equipment .
synapticgroove
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Username: synapticgroove

Post Number: 6
Registered: 3-2015
Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post

Sonicus,

That's what I thought and thank you for the feedback!
edwin
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Username: edwin

Post Number: 1958
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 5:51 pm:   Edit Post

How is it insulting to the Wickershams to build something for yourself that's not commercially available? If anything, I would think it's an homage. All of these things are tools to make music, not sacred objects to render worship.

I can understand a problem if someone decides to try to manufacture it and sell it as an Alembic, that's a definite foul, but thinking about making one for myself shouldn't inspire negativity toward me.
sonicus
Senior Member
Username: sonicus

Post Number: 4011
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 6:17 pm:   Edit Post

Edwin , I can dig what you speak my brother . I just do NOT want to step on a current prospective product re -release of Alembic Inc. Alembic Inc , must prevail with their original product inovations to the music industry .After all Alembic was a game changer with their inovations . My understanding is that a new IN-2 is still up and comming . All positive love and respect on my part .

Wolf
edwin
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Username: edwin

Post Number: 1964
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post

Oh, I know all that. The reason I haven't ever gotten around to it is that I keep hoping that the reissue is just around the corner.

Boy, I remember those UTC transformers from back in the day. they were awfully nice.

Right back atcha! We gotta hang one of these years.
sonicus
Senior Member
Username: sonicus

Post Number: 4018
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Thursday, March 26, 2015 - 2:00 am:   Edit Post

Edwin , YES , Quite certainly ! Our inner "Zeitgeist" already have met it seems! Due to this " Alembic Club" Social Media phenomenon.
slawie
Senior Member
Username: slawie

Post Number: 749
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Thursday, March 26, 2015 - 6:35 pm:   Edit Post

I am not negative toward you Edwin - not at all.
What I believe about myself, I would never inflect upon others.

What Wolf said.

I have led a bit of a personal campaign to get the IN-2 back into production.

slawie
bassman8416
Intermediate Member
Username: bassman8416

Post Number: 170
Registered: 5-2012
Posted on Thursday, April 09, 2015 - 9:29 am:   Edit Post

SOLD

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