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hasenbeensober
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Username: hasenbeensober

Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 5:41 pm:   Edit Post

For sale long scale, with out Leds, or cord or power supply beautiful bass in pristine condition and probally played about 30 times. Comes with original case. Pics coming soon $6,000
series_iii
Junior
Username: series_iii

Post Number: 11
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 8:33 pm:   Edit Post

this wouldn't be you perchance?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Alembic-Exploiter-Bass-Series-11-1990_W0QQitemZ7358336791QQcategoryZ4713QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

i hope you realize that this has about every red flag an auction can have.
lothartu
Intermediate Member
Username: lothartu

Post Number: 110
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 2:17 pm:   Edit Post

Member since Oct-15-05 and 0 feedback

The odds of finding someone willing to gamble thousands of dollars on a zero feedback brand new ebayer is slim to none.

I've got a few questions/observations.

1) Series electronics but no hum cancel pickup? So where's the hum cancel pickup? Did alembic somehow mount it "under" the wood?

2) The Q pot for the first set of controls looks too close to the volume. Volume/Q switch/Q pot have always been mounted symetrically on the alembics that I've seen.

I'm curious.
j_gary
Intermediate Member
Username: j_gary

Post Number: 119
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 7:14 pm:   Edit Post

LUCY! You got some splaining to do!
kungfusheriff
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Username: kungfusheriff

Post Number: 396
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 11:04 pm:   Edit Post

{holding nose}
bob
Senior Member
Username: bob

Post Number: 514
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Monday, October 17, 2005 - 12:39 am:   Edit Post

Full name of 'hasenbeensober', as registered with us, is Billy Biggerbelly.

I'm not curious.
valvil
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Username: valvil

Post Number: 772
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 4:08 pm:   Edit Post

I was called about this bass, I checked the file and yes, oddly enough it is a series bass with no humcanceler. Ron told me a very small number was done like that back about 15 years ago or so; some customers did not like the look of the humcanceler and asked not to have it.
I was the one who told the gentleman who called to put it up on the club.
That set-up is not one we do anymore , however, so please don't ask for it. :-)

Valentino
hasenbeensober
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Username: hasenbeensober

Post Number: 2
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 8:45 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks Valentino.
j_gary
Intermediate Member
Username: j_gary

Post Number: 120
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Friday, October 21, 2005 - 6:22 am:   Edit Post

Hey there hasbeensoberbeerbellybilly, sorry about the full frontal assault. There are some great people living here but watch out if they think you are messing with the herd.

For some reason,(name?, weird Series description?, continual ebay rip offs?) the crowd got restless. There would have been civil unrest a massing of troops had an order from above, Valentino, not advised us to step down.

Now listen here beerbelly, it appears you have several valuable assets to offer this beautiful kingdom.

1- The blessing of Viceroy Valentino.

2- A very cool and interesting bass.

3- A twisted sense of humor.

Next time may I suggest you give us a warning when delivering a curve. This wild pitch really got the old panties in a bunch.

Anyway, welcome aboard my man. Now that you are known and loved, we will give you lots of money and questions.

First question, is that your birth name? If it is, man I wish I would have been your parents neighbor. I got neighbors now that call the police if I open the case of my bass, nevermind a case of beer.

If I may quote James, Peace.
hasenbeensober
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Username: hasenbeensober

Post Number: 3
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Friday, October 21, 2005 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post

Gary thanks for the welcome and I'm sorry if I pissed off the Alembic Klan. I'm very reluctant in selling this bass in the first place. Like you and all the other bass players on this post when looking at one of these basses, one person comes to mind, John Entwhisle. I basically learned how to play from this man growing up. I would fight my way to the front of the stage and watch him play every time The Who would come around. Then the greatest event next to the birth of my children occured. I met and ending up getting shit-face drunk with John in Chicago at a club I believe was called The Vick in 1986-1987. I'll never forget after sitting at the table we decided to get up and walk around, John says to me I've got to use the restroom and proceeded to walk right into the womens restroom and thats the last I saw of him. Approx a year later I met up with him in Los Angeles and ending up shit-faced again. We joked around and I asked him how he's been and his responce was "haven't been sober" so that's were hasenbeensober came from. During this time with John, we talked about The Who, and I asked him how the hell can you play like that. Anything you would ask him he would go into full detail. My bass playing days were coming to an end in about 1992. I decided to go back to college and go down a different path when I came across the Exploiter in a small music store. It was like finding the Holly Grail! I've had the bass since and have decided to cut it loose. Once again it's very difficult for me to let it go but would rather see someone play it rather than having it just sit in the case.

Long Live John Entwhisle

George (My real name)
j_gary
Intermediate Member
Username: j_gary

Post Number: 121
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Friday, October 21, 2005 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post

Hello George,(ya know, I really like your stage name)if it were known you hung out with the big E, there would have been bowing and scraping rather than hissing and booing.

Great story, you are a lucky man. Hell if I was Mr. Entwhisle, I'd make it a habit to use the ladies room.

With your influences and interests, what took you so long to land here? BTW, thanks a pantload for providing the history of your beautiful bass. Now instead of running from it I'm trying to sell my car, dog, blood, & Mom to buy the dang thing, crap!

Be advised, I don't think anyone was "pissed". Shoot, the site was all abuzz. It is actually quite an interesting adventure whenever an unusual bass comes along. The folks on this site have an incredible amount of knowledge, experience, and expertise (I'm not one of them) when it comes to Alembic and the world of music. It's quite amazing to watch the forces mass when something appears "sideyways". If your shopping for a nice bass, being a member here is mighty protection from some of the animals on the prowl.

Great stuff, glad you jumped in, good luck and enjoy.
beelee
Intermediate Member
Username: beelee

Post Number: 117
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Friday, October 21, 2005 - 5:16 pm:   Edit Post

Hey george welcome to the club and good luck with your auction.......

James hit the nail on the head..........I really doubt you even came close to pissing anyone off..........

hasenbeensober.........

billybiggerbelly..........

LOL

I'm surprised no one commented on your email addy too.

"tolooseonthetrek "

NICE !

Tolouse Latrec ? ( forgive the spelling)

cool Entwistle tale

B.
lindoom
Junior
Username: lindoom

Post Number: 12
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Friday, October 21, 2005 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post

If your gona talk about the MAN at least do him the honor of spelling his name right .
(John Entwistle is spelled John Entwistle not John Entwhistle) anybody remember that ad in music mags back in the 70s
j_gary
Intermediate Member
Username: j_gary

Post Number: 123
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Saturday, October 22, 2005 - 6:49 am:   Edit Post

hEy lindooom we is base pleyars, 4 strIngs ya no?
richbass939
Senior Member
Username: richbass939

Post Number: 434
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Saturday, October 22, 2005 - 8:34 am:   Edit Post

Hello George,
Welcome to the club. I second what Beelee and J Gary said. I don't think you pissed anyone off.
You'll see that we all just try to take care of each other around here. I'm fairly new to this club and Alembic ownership. I really appreciate it when members with lots of knowledge and experience about Alembics, E-bay, PayPal, etc. warn the rest of us about claims and conditions that warrant extra attention.
I think you'll have to admit that when you add up zero E-bay feedback, very first Alembic club post, pretty large investment in an instrument, Hasenbeensober, and Billy Biggerbelly it all deserves a pretty close look (LOL). We don't automatically assume a deal is a ripoff and a "seller" is a crook but we do point out things that appear unorthodox. There have been "for sale"s that were outright fraud, gross misrepresentations, fake second chance offers, etc. that got the spotlight from this club. The crooks just slink away and disappear. The honest ones appreciate the feeling of comfort we get from so many sharp eyes and minds watching the second hand market and reporting back what they perceive.
I liked the story about JE. It's very cool that you had some unique experiences with him just being a regular guy.
Again, welcome to the club.
Rich
lindoom
Junior
Username: lindoom

Post Number: 13
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Saturday, October 22, 2005 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post

I be base pleyar too 4 strings also somtimes ate I mean 8
hasenbeensober
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Username: hasenbeensober

Post Number: 4
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Saturday, October 22, 2005 - 1:39 pm:   Edit Post

Oops! Duh! Sorry Reverend.
lothartu
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Username: lothartu

Post Number: 112
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 8:54 pm:   Edit Post

Hi George and welcome to the club.

No offense was intended from my previous post. You just kind of "fell out of the sky" as a new member, new ebayer, and you came bearing an unusual Alembic. Nobody around here is pissed, but I think all our radars went off when you showed up. No offense was intended; we're just always on point when it comes to ebay and Alembics. I think we see at least one ebay listing every week that tries to rip someone off by using Alembic. Toss in the "second chance" frauds and it's a constant problem.

Thank you for the JE story. I always like to hear stories of how people "really" are when they're just being themselves.

On the subject of your bass, do you know how it is wired? Are the pickups just wired to cancel to each other? Normally they would each be wired to the humcanceler. (I wonder how much Alembic would charge to put in a humcanceler)

- Jim
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 2483
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 7:47 pm:   Edit Post

Hi George; you may want to take note that all three of the people who have been bidding on your bass have zero feedback accounts, two of which are new accounts. This seems a bit unusual; and it does seem that there is a chance that the bidding is bogus. Hopefully, everthing will be shown to be legit and the end result will be a transaction where all parties will be satisfied; but you might not want to ship the bass until you have the winning bidder's funds safely in hand. Your listing states you take PayPal. If I remember correctly, one member of our group got burned when a buyer made a payment by PayPal and then within a very short period of time, somehow cancelled the payment. It seems there is some short amount of time within which such a cancellation is permitted; but I can't memember the details at the moment. So you may want to wait a few hours before shipping just to be sure.
series_iii
Junior
Username: series_iii

Post Number: 13
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 9:09 am:   Edit Post

i dunno. call me a skeptic but something about this whole deal smells. i said it a week ago and i'll say it now. that bid history seals the deal for me. this just ain't right.
pmoran
Intermediate Member
Username: pmoran

Post Number: 107
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 9:13 am:   Edit Post

dave, you may be speaking of something i wrote about in another thread regarding the "ebay horror story" and ebay fraud. at the time i sold my spoiler and my persuader vector, along w/a warwick infinity 5, i sold my beloved late 60's fender bassman head which i hadn't used in about 20 years. the kid who bought it did so w/his mother's permission using her visa card to back the paypal payment. THE DAY AFTER HE RECEIVED THE AMP AND POSTED AN EXTREMELY POSITIVE FEEDBACK indicating complete satisfaction-----his freakin' mother tried to pull a b.s. chargeback/challenge of payment stunt on me. although paypal seemed to believe they could pull the money out of my bank account----which i'd already w/drawn from paypal and put in another bank account, leaving very little in the account tied to paypal, they never tried. they threatened, if that's the right word although it wasn't done w/any ugly language, but they never tried. i sent message after message to paypal and each of their responses indicated clearly that they had not read one damn word i actually wrote. a complete idiot, as opposed to a partial one, could have seen this was a b.s. scam being attempted. finally, out of frustration, i used information to find the woman's phone number in washington state (i'm in san antonio), and i called her and confronted her w/her bull....! she contacted visa and asked them to drop her chargeback/denial of payment complaint. THAT, MY FRIENDS, IS THE ONLY REASON PAYPAL FINALLY DROPPED THEIR SO-CALLED "INVESTIGATION." the kid's mom stopped the crap-------but i want to tell you that 2 months later i was still receiving messages from paypal telling me they were still investigating and "would release my funds to me if their investigation proved the denial of payment was unwarranted." yes, you read that right. two months later they were still acting as if they had frozen the funds and were still investigating---------two months after another of their messages said the situation had been resolved in my favor because the buyer had abandoned her claim. YOU JUST CAN'T MAKE CRAP LIKE THIS UP. davehouck has been moderating here for a long time and has an astounding wealth of knowledge for us forum members lucky enough to seek his advice------but his knowledge isn't limited just to alembics. listen to him, george! following up on dave's advice and expanding-----if your paypal account is tied into one of your bank accounts (checking or savings), then w/draw the funds from paypal the second you can. then go into your account tied to paypal and transfer the funds immediately to your other account, leaving a minimal balance sufficient to have your bank keep that account open. THEN, AND ONLY THEN, SHIP THE BASS...............and, as "ebay horror story victim" learned, ship the bass insured and require the buyer/receiver to present identification and sign for the bass personally------and ONLY AT THE BUYER'S CONFIRMED PAYPAL/EBAY ADDRESS-----NO PO BOXES OR ANY OF THAT CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kata3901
Junior
Username: kata3901

Post Number: 21
Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 2:02 pm:   Edit Post

Unfortunately, insuring your bass now-days is changing. For example, as recent as last week, Fed Ex Ground no longer insures fine instruments for more than $100.00. Fed Ex Express will go as high as only $500.00. The reason for the change I asked Fed Ex? Their answer: Too much fraud...So, my suggestion is to all those buying and shipping fine instruments: Make sure you have adequate extended insurance policies before shipping.

(Message edited by kata3901 on November 25, 2005)
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 2644
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 4:15 pm:   Edit Post

Following up on Tim's point, the last time I purchased a used bass that was shipped to me, I added the instrument and it's serial number to my insurance policy before the seller shipped it to me.
kata3901
Junior
Username: kata3901

Post Number: 24
Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 4:54 pm:   Edit Post

Wise decision Dave.

(Message edited by kata3901 on November 25, 2005)

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