| Author | Message | ||
| flpete1uw
Senior Member Username: flpete1uw Post Number: 607 Registered: 11-2011 |
Instant Collection anyone, this is a first I've seen anything like this. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Alembic-bass-guitar-lot-Series-1-Series-2-and-Spoiler-electric-guitars-/331771383987?hash=item4d3f1d90b3:g:pGoAAOSw5dNWtRFe | ||
| gtrguy
Senior Member Username: gtrguy Post Number: 993 Registered: 9-2004 |
The person also has a lot of Boogie man stuff for sale... | ||
| fc_spoiler
Senior Member Username: fc_spoiler Post Number: 1859 Registered: 5-2006 |
Most likely he used these to reverse engineer the electronic components... That's: Two $3500 basses, one $4500 and one $1500 bass for only $23000 :-) | ||
| flpete1uw
Senior Member Username: flpete1uw Post Number: 608 Registered: 11-2011 |
Yeah, I see it now. Seams like he sells counterfeit as well as legit stuff. At first I thought this was a scam in never seeing a collection sold all at once before. Then again? Hate to see nice basses tarnished. Peace, | ||
| sonicus
Senior Member Username: sonicus Post Number: 4740 Registered: 5-2009 |
It is surely " The Boogie Man" .Of whom there have been many threads of mention about this eBay seller on this site. As well as stepping on the nice toes of Alembic Inc, this person has made what I consider disparaging remarks on Ebay in the past toward paticipants of our Alembic Club Forum. It is my decision not to do business with this seller as I have mentioned before. I apologize for this redundancy in stating my opinion, which I do with a big smile and without malice  ! | ||
| edwardofhuncote
Senior Member Username: edwardofhuncote Post Number: 819 Registered: 6-2014 |
I'll take a little different path... although I wouldn't personally do business with the Boogieman either, simply because I'm aware (by means of this Board) of his tactics, a vintage Alembic is still a vintage Alembic, and I hope these instruments end up in the hands of someone who appreciates them for what they are rather than a means for copying someone else's ingenuity. Bad ju-ju there, but maybe some good will come of it. And yeah Wolf, look what he says in the description about time wasters and bloggers. Hey, I resemble that remark! =) | ||
| sonicus
Senior Member Username: sonicus Post Number: 4741 Registered: 5-2009 |
The remarks that this individual made this time are mild in my opinion compared to what was written in the past . A while ago the remarks were aimed at not only us " time wasters and bloggers" but at personnel of Alembic Inc as well . That was a while back. | ||
| edwardofhuncote
New Username: edwardofhuncote Post Number: 819 Registered: 6-2014 |
He seems kinda' sour for sure. On that note, I should issue an apology if (the first part of) my above post came off snooty or snarky, as I really didn't mean it that way, very much the opposite actually. You know how sometimes stuffs sounds different when you read it back... what I meant was, I ended up here a couple years ago after a crooked ebay'r sold me a stripped-out bass. I'd dreamed of my own Alembic for 20-some-odd years and was thoroughly crushed. Then Flip (fc_spoiler) sent me here from another forum, where I met you folks, and Mica and Co. that helped me fix it up like new. The rest is history yet to be written. There could be another happy ending here, was all I meant... mea culpa. | ||
| rockerdebassman
Member Username: rockerdebassman Post Number: 55 Registered: 8-2015 |
Hey, it's good to read club member feedback. It helps offer varying perspectives. | ||
| hammer
Senior Member Username: hammer Post Number: 850 Registered: 9-2009 |
I'll bring this back to Flip's comments with which I wholeheartedly agree. Whatever these basses were used for, the seller is asking about twice the market value. | ||
| sonicus
Senior Member Username: sonicus Post Number: 4742 Registered: 5-2009 |
Here is a link to an Alembic Club thread from the recent past that is a small reminder of how the " Boggie Man" expresses him self ! . Read the post that are own friendly " cozmik cowboy" made ( his #980) in the middle of the page . http://alembic.com/club/messages/395/105716.html?1313007588 | ||
| mtjam
Advanced Member Username: mtjam Post Number: 355 Registered: 11-2011 |
I hadn't seen that reply from "Boggieman" before. My opinion of him has now dropped even lower than it was before. Sad to see that collection of basses in his clutches. Hope they find their way to a good home! | ||
| hammer
Senior Member Username: hammer Post Number: 851 Registered: 9-2009 |
It's interesting to note that after slamming what we all know are some of the finest instruments in the world in his earlier posting, and in this most recent one indicating that they are like wine vintages, he admits to owning over 30 Alembics over the years. That's a lot of product to purchase if you think what you are buying is of poor or questionable quality. | ||
| enzo
Senior Member Username: enzo Post Number: 556 Registered: 4-2009 |
LOL, good point! He owned 30 of them just to be absolutely sure they all suck hahaha. | ||
| edwin
Senior Member Username: edwin Post Number: 2186 Registered: 5-2002 |
I would love to have that SII. It's pretty much what I'm looking for: medium scale, nice dark wood, omega cut. Drool. | ||
| jazzyvee
Senior Member Username: jazzyvee Post Number: 4900 Registered: 6-2002 |
Interesting that there are no pictures of the electronics cavity. Thats something I would need to see if I were buying from someone who sells their own versions of alembic electronics. | ||
| rv_bass
New Username: rv_bass Post Number: 4 Registered: 8-2014 |
Yes, Edwin, nice bass, but the ad he has on eBay for his series electronics copy suggests that the electronics in that bass may have been altered (photo shows back plate of this bass with altered electronics). | ||
| edwin
Senior Member Username: edwin Post Number: 2187 Registered: 5-2002 |
Could just be proof of concept shots. But it's moot. I'm broke. | ||
| sonicus
Senior Member Username: sonicus Post Number: 4744 Registered: 5-2009 |
Ladies and Gentleman of the " Jury" , I present to you this interesting WEB page for your inspection and reflection ; http://examples.yourdictionary.com/examples-of-guilt-by-association.html | ||
| edwin
Senior Member Username: edwin Post Number: 2188 Registered: 5-2002 |
I'm not sure what your point is. And electronics are easily replaced. Since none of the instruments are hacked up, getting an original board would be a simple matter, assuming the alleged replacement didn't function. | ||
| rockerdebassman
Member Username: rockerdebassman Post Number: 57 Registered: 8-2015 |
Well, presenting as a collection is an easy way to skew pricing, since what he wants is private dialogue to sell his overpriced inventory, which, my guess is, he paid too much for himself. Personally, credibility is everything when it comes to Internet sales and this fellow seems to have little. I encourage other club members to ignore him, for, as a group, we represent the majority of his prospective marks... I mean potential customers. | ||
| ed_zeppelin
Advanced Member Username: ed_zeppelin Post Number: 248 Registered: 2-2010 |
I asked Cletus to translate, since English is his second language (he doesn't have a first).
Cletus says;
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| edwin
Senior Member Username: edwin Post Number: 2189 Registered: 5-2002 |
Whatever for that. There have been lots of great post 1983 Alembics. I think they are doing some of their best work right now. I have owned a 70s Alembic and a 2011 Alembic. Both were great and there was a lot to be said in favor of the new one. But his opinions don't mean that I can't lust after one he's selling. Clearly it deserves to be played by someone with a different worldview. | ||
| gtrguy
Senior Member Username: gtrguy Post Number: 998 Registered: 9-2004 |
Gotta Be a John Deer, prefebal wid 2 cylinders only. | ||
| hammer
Senior Member Username: hammer Post Number: 853 Registered: 9-2009 |
If the electronics are not Alembic and need replacing that would make the prices he is asking even more outrageous than if they were all original. | ||
| gtrguy
Senior Member Username: gtrguy Post Number: 1000 Registered: 9-2004 |
Thinking back to the Tomahawk Chronicles, of which many here remember, I kinda think that it might be best for this thread to sputter out and fade away with all due haste. | ||
| gtrguy
Senior Member Username: gtrguy Post Number: 1001 Registered: 9-2004 |
Besides, I am now at post #1000!!! Woo Hoo! | ||
| lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq Post Number: 6347 Registered: 7-2004 |
I don't believe there is any evidence that the electronics are anything but Alembic. Rather, the allegation seems to be that Mr. Boogeyman used these to reverse engineer and copy the Alembic electronics. Under the circumstances, it may be a reasonable assumption. I have several Alembics from both the early days and more recently built instruments, and I strongly disagree with Mr. Boogeyman's comparison of Alembics with wine and his claim that the early ones were far superior. If anything, the newer ones are a little more refined and, of course, we all know that the newer Series instruments are more resistent to RF interference. Bill, tgo | ||
| sonicus
Senior Member Username: sonicus Post Number: 4747 Registered: 5-2009 |
The truth shall prevail ! I concur with Bill , Series II circa 1997 has proven to be less susceptible to RFI noise in a more diverse variety of scenarios then a Series I circa 1973 . And , That's the way it is ! Wolf | ||
| sonofa_lembic
Intermediate Member Username: sonofa_lembic Post Number: 118 Registered: 5-2014 |
That is my old Series 2 Omega he has for sale. I sold it to him a few years ago. It was a nice super clean bass. I asked him if I could buy it back, but he wants way more than what I sold it to him for. I remember all too well what I sold it for, and when I inquired about buying it back, he started throwing out huge numbers, and telling me to check the Paypal account for the selling price. Well, I just told him I must be getting forgetful, but then he checked the sale price and realized I was right, and had sold the bass for what I remembered selling it for. | ||
| edwin
Senior Member Username: edwin Post Number: 2199 Registered: 5-2002 |
I remember when this was for sale and kicking myself for not getting it when I had the chance. I still am! | ||
| sonofa_lembic
Intermediate Member Username: sonofa_lembic Post Number: 119 Registered: 5-2014 |
Yep it was a great bass. It had an extra pair of pickups which were custom wound for Stanley Clarke. I drove to the Bay area to buy it from a nice fellow. I paid $6K for it from him. I ended up selling it to the current owner for $5.5K, so he got a nice bass and I took a loss on it. I would buy it back for what I sold it for, but not $7.8K like the owner expects to get. |
