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hasadari
Intermediate Member
Username: hasadari

Post Number: 146
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Saturday, December 24, 2005 - 5:22 pm:   Edit Post

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effclef
Advanced Member
Username: effclef

Post Number: 365
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Monday, December 26, 2005 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post

HEY!!!! wasn't someone in the Club just looking for a Persuader or Spoiler _five string_ with P/J pickups???

EffClef
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 2901
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, December 26, 2005 - 2:06 pm:   Edit Post

Yes, Tim (Kata3901) posted that he was looking for a Persuader here and here. For some reason I was thinking he had found a bass; but I don't see it on either of these threads, so I'm probably wrong about that.
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 2902
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, December 26, 2005 - 2:11 pm:   Edit Post

Found it; further down in the first cited thread, another member reports that Tim had changed his mind and was no longer looking for a Persuader.
bsee
Senior Member
Username: bsee

Post Number: 963
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Monday, December 26, 2005 - 6:13 pm:   Edit Post

My recollection is that Dave's last comment is correct in that Tim wants a wider string spacing than would be found on a vintage persuader.

-Bob
kata3901
Junior
Username: kata3901

Post Number: 26
Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 - 2:54 am:   Edit Post

Dave, yes, that is correct. I actually saw and played this bass (see link above). The string spacing is WAY to close for my comfort level. Why Alembic decided to cram a 5th string into a 4-string neck is beyond me.

Also, when I looked at this bass I quickly realized someone did a major hack-job in the bridge area. Looks like someone attempted to re-locate and/or replace the bridge and/or bird tail-piece at some point and then attempted to correct. Absolutely destroyed the instruments integrety. What a shame, as it could have been a nice bass for the right person. Now Guitar Center has it. Good luck to Guitar Center for trying to find a home for that price!

The 4-string (with this p/u configuration) I played was killer. That was the reason I was in the hunt for a Persuader 5. By the way, I just located a 4 and bought it. Can't wait to play it!

Tim B.

(Message edited by kata3901 on December 27, 2005)

(Message edited by kata3901 on December 27, 2005)
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 2910
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 - 8:56 pm:   Edit Post

Tim; congrats on the 4 string!
kata3901
Junior
Username: kata3901

Post Number: 27
Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 4:49 am:   Edit Post

Thanks Dave!

It's an 87 in mint (like new) condition. I bought it from the original owner. Very nice rich curly maple figure on front and back of peg head as well as front of body (mahogany core of course), ebony fretboard w/ovals. I couldn't be more pleased.

Now if I can just build up some confidence that UPS (shudder) will get it to me in it's original condition this Friday!

Tim B.
kata3901
Junior
Username: kata3901

Post Number: 28
Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 3:32 pm:   Edit Post

Hey Guys,

Question about the 87 Persuader. Is anyone in the know about the type of machine heads Alembic used on this bass?

The machine heads on this bass look just like the originals but the each gear cap on the back says "Made In Japan". Did Alembic use these?

Also the Drop D Tuner is a Schaller(sp?) "Made In W Germany". Is this also what Alembic used?

Thanks much in advance for your expertise in this area.

Tim B.
kata3901
Junior
Username: kata3901

Post Number: 29
Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 4:16 pm:   Edit Post

All,

Well, I may have answered my own questions about the tuners. If they are Gotoh's (which they look like) then they are made in Japan....duh.

Here's another dumb question. The side dot fret markers on the bass neck appear to be painted on (i.e. there like little beads of white paint. You can actually feel them (not a big deal though). Did Alembic actually do this?

Thanks again,

Tim B.
pmoran
Intermediate Member
Username: pmoran

Post Number: 123
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 5:57 pm:   Edit Post

i'm confused. you bought the bass? now, you've discovered these inconsistencies?
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 2921
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 6:36 pm:   Edit Post

We've been using Gotohs most of the time since the mid 80's, and they either say "Made in Japan" or have the Alembic "A" script on the back.

We would have installed a drop tuner only on special order, it wasn't standard on any model at any time.

No painted markers - the original bronze are probably entombed below the paint. You can sand down to them and the light sanding will brighten up the bronze finish. They probably needed a light sanding when someone in the past covered them with white paint. If it doesn't bother you, you can leave it as is though.
kata3901
Junior
Username: kata3901

Post Number: 30
Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 1:09 am:   Edit Post

Mica,

Thank you!

Tim B.
kata3901
Junior
Username: kata3901

Post Number: 31
Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 2:02 am:   Edit Post

Mica,

By the way, this is the finest example of an 87 Persuader I have ever seen. While I have been on the hunt and have seen several on eBay and here and there, I have never owned one until now. From an electronics perspective, the P-Bass pick-up is everything on this bass. The J-Bass bridge pick-up is only along for the ride. Absolutely killer sounding 4-String with or without the J-Bass pick-up though!

Also, yes, the bronze markers are there, just carefully capped with some white paint as suspected.

Thanks again!

Tim B.

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