| Author | Message | ||
| jacko
Senior Member Username: jacko Post Number: 757 Registered: 10-2002 |
here Graeme | ||
| davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 4293 Registered: 5-2002 |
Beautiful guitar! The top and back woods are very nice. | ||
| keavin
Senior Member Username: keavin Post Number: 899 Registered: 12-2002 |
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| keavin
Senior Member Username: keavin Post Number: 900 Registered: 12-2002 |
Isn't She Lovely! (Message edited by keavin on August 20, 2006) | ||
| series_iii
Member Username: series_iii Post Number: 70 Registered: 8-2005 |
so what's the deal with this? i'm not a guitar guy but it seems like a nice instrument. overpriced? hidden issues? shaky seller? nobody likes 12-strings? (i have an 8-string bass and it rules!) http://cgi.ebay.com/1980-Alembic-Series-1-Electric-12-String-Guitar-w-OHSC_W0QQitemZ110027159550QQihZ001QQcategoryZ2384QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem | ||
| hydrargyrum
Advanced Member Username: hydrargyrum Post Number: 217 Registered: 3-2004 |
I think someone pointed out in another thread that all of the saddles were moved to the very front of their travel. Aside from that, I am not sure what the problem is. Looks as though the seller has plenty of positive feedback. Maybe just the fact that it is 12 strings is a deterrent. (I simply lack $6,000 in mad money). Here's the other thread: http://alembic.com/club/messages/395/30000.html?1154362257 | ||
| lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq Post Number: 1581 Registered: 7-2004 |
This one has been around the ebay merry-go-round at least three times now, if not more. Each time the price comes down a little. IMHO it is still substantially overpriced. Six stringers of this vintage usually bring about $2500-3000 (I won my '76 Series I guitar on ebay last February for a little less than $2500). It's hard to say if this is increasing recently, as used Alembic basses and some non-series guitars (Electrums especially) seem to have been increasing in selling price lately. Series guitars come around so rarely that it is hard to discern a pattern. Nevertheless, I'd be surprised to see this top the $4000-4500 range in an open auction, and suspect it would sell closer to the $3000-3500 range. Still, it's a beautiful looking axe. If I won the lottery (which, as the late great Herb Caen used to say, one has roughly the same chance of winning, whether you play it or not), I'd hit the BIN. If anyone is really interested, I'd be patient. Chances are good it won't get any bids and will be back again at a lower price. Bill, tgo (Message edited by lbpesq on August 30, 2006) | ||
| davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 4355 Registered: 5-2002 |
Tim; I tend to agree with Bill, there are just not that many people in the market for a $6,500 twelve string guitar. There are not that many twelve string Alembic Series guitars floating around, so I suppose if the seller is patient, some collector may decide to go for it. But I think Bill's market price estimate seems reasonable. | ||
| lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq Post Number: 1595 Registered: 7-2004 |
One around: $6500 Next time around: $6000 It's back!!! $5500 http://cgi.ebay.com/1980-Alembic-Series-1-Electric-12-String-Guitar-w-OHSC_W0QQitemZ110029639096QQihZ001QQcategoryZ2384QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Like I said, wait and ye shall reap rewards! Bill, tgo | ||
| lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq Post Number: 1620 Registered: 7-2004 |
Here we go again. Another $500 price drop, this time its $5000 http://cgi.ebay.com/1980-Alembic-Series-1-Electric-12-String-Guitar-w-OHSC_W0QQitemZ110033038179QQihZ001QQcategoryZ2384QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Bill, tgo | ||
| effclef
Senior Member Username: effclef Post Number: 432 Registered: 1-2004 |
Zero bids! It'll be around again. ;-) | ||
| jacko
Senior Member Username: jacko Post Number: 824 Registered: 10-2002 |
If it gets down to £500 it's mine ;-) Graeme | ||
| lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq Post Number: 1639 Registered: 7-2004 |
And yet another $500 price drop to $4500 with a $4750 BIN. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110035921592&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1 Bill, tgo | ||
| 811952
Senior Member Username: 811952 Post Number: 822 Registered: 10-2003 |
Fixing the issue with the saddles not having enough travel is probably as easy as a phone call to Valentino or Mica and a divestiture of a few hundred $$$. Beautiful guitar though. John | ||
| hankster
Member Username: hankster Post Number: 59 Registered: 6-2004 |
An electric 12 is a pretty unusual guitar to use much, and even when you do, it's often not in a capacity where the sound of the particular instrument will stand out over and above the characteristic sound that all electric 12's have in common. For the kind of occasional use such a guitar gets, there are lots of great and much less expensive guitars around - unless you are a collector, it seems to me, the price of an alembic 12 is pretty hard to justify. I suspect that is what is driving the absence of bidders. Rick | ||
| lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq Post Number: 1650 Registered: 7-2004 |
Rick, Rick, Rick: Shame on you! "the characteristic sound that all electric 12's have in common" With a name like Rick you should know better. There is NOTHING that sounds like a Rickenbacker 12. I have two electric 12s, a Fender Strat XII (MIJ version), and a recent Ricky 360 12. The Fender is far more playable (Ricky 12s use the same neck as the 6s which is fairly narrrow to begin with), but the Ricky has that unique Ricky twang that is clearly different from the Fender or any other electric 12 I've heard. I suspect the difference comes partially from the fact that Rickys are strung differently from most 12s. The common set up is with the bass strings on the bottom of each pair. On a Ricky, the bass string is the top string of each pair. The idea of an Alembic 12 is very intriguing to me. I have a set of Alembic strat pickups that I plan to install on the Fender 12 when I get the time. Bill, tgo | ||
| jalevinemd
Senior Member Username: jalevinemd Post Number: 510 Registered: 12-2003 |
I love the sound of a 12 string. Unfortunately, two of the things I hate most in life are changing strings and intonation. For me, a guitar like this would be one of Dante's nine circles of hell! Throw in the Series electronics that I'd need to learn how to master and my wife would find me swinging from the ceiling by my guitar strap. | ||
| j_gary
Advanced Member Username: j_gary Post Number: 209 Registered: 6-2005 |
Jon, if you live as funny as you write, you could have your own reality show, Guitar MD. All you would need is a goofy brother named Mikey. I actually enjoy the hours spent setting up a guitar prior to dropping it off at the shop. They tell me it would be much cheaper to drop her off before I do my thing. I need a number of instruments as most are unusable once I attempt an adjustment. I played a Rick bass for 10 years in the stink hole bar circuit without ever making any adjustments, including strings (wince), and never had a problem. Now that I have tools, time and a workbench, my guitars are all over the map. I would set this 12 string on fire shortly after it arrived. | ||
| series_iii
Intermediate Member Username: series_iii Post Number: 103 Registered: 8-2005 |
relisted at $4450. gotta wonder when the listing fees are gonna catch up with the item price. kinda like that persuader with the 3 fretboards that GC relisted about 100 times a while back.... | ||
| hankster
Member Username: hankster Post Number: 63 Registered: 6-2004 |
OK, I take it back. I just bought the Miroslav Vitous/Larry Coryell tribute to Bill Evans and Scott LaFaro. Coryell's 12-string playing is awesome. Rick | ||
| hieronymous
Member Username: hieronymous Post Number: 64 Registered: 1-2005 |
Pat Metheny used to play electric 12-string a lot too, with Gary Burton's band and I think even on Bright Size Life. | ||
| lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq Post Number: 1672 Registered: 7-2004 |
Roger McQuinn. 'Nuff said. Bill, tgo | ||
| speicky
Intermediate Member Username: speicky Post Number: 163 Registered: 3-2005 |
Deja vu here | ||
| hankster
Member Username: hankster Post Number: 68 Registered: 6-2004 |
Don't get me wrong - I didn't say I didn't like the sound of a 12-string electric. I've been a huge Byrds fan since about the time I could walk upright, and I think I am the only person I know with not one, but two McGuinn post-Byrds solo albums in my collection. The point I was making - or trying, but failing, to make - is that so many people playing 12-string electrics are doing it primarily to get that kind of open, sweeping, jangly "eight miles high" sound - which is evoked by almost any electric 12-string, whether its a Rickenbacker or a Micro-Frets. Who knows, if the price on the Alembic 12 keeps going down, someday I may actually get a chance to experience the difference. Rick | ||
| lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq Post Number: 1718 Registered: 7-2004 |
It's back again, and the price has been reduced, IMHO, to the almost-but-not-quite-reasonable range. $4250 BIN http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110044035097&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1 Bill, tgo | ||
| elwoodblue
Member Username: elwoodblue Post Number: 94 Registered: 6-2002 |
I was thinking the same... ...I recently bought a 2004 stratocaster from the seller, everything went very smooth,immaculate strat. (I bought it to use the neck and parts for a 1994 aluminum strat body...once I recieved the 2004 I couldn't,she was too cherry). cheers | ||
| 57basstra
Senior Member Username: 57basstra Post Number: 455 Registered: 4-2005 |
What would a straight up '80 Series I six string guitar in similar condition go for? Anybody considered buying this one and stringing it as a 6? (Well, I guess I have. Anyone else?) | ||
| lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq Post Number: 1744 Registered: 7-2004 |
As I noted above, I bought my '76 Series I guitar in very good condition off of ebay last February for just under $2500. You can see it in the showcase section. That's probably the low end, but you should be able to find one for $3000 or less, I believe. They seem to come up 3 or 4 times a year on ebay, as I recall. Bill, tgo | ||
| 57basstra
Senior Member Username: 57basstra Post Number: 456 Registered: 4-2005 |
Thanks, Bill. I sure would like to at least see one come up for around that $3K price. Not sure I could pull the trigger, though. David | ||
| lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq Post Number: 1804 Registered: 7-2004 |
It's back again with a price drop, this time with a $3999.99 BIN. That's almost reasonable. Almost. Bill, tgo http://cgi.ebay.com/1980-Alembic-Series-1-Electric-12-String-Guitar-w-OHSC_W0QQitemZ110062217230QQihZ001QQcategoryZ2384QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem | ||
| drjenney
Member Username: drjenney Post Number: 91 Registered: 11-2004 |
I'm sick of seeing this thing on eBay. Let's all chip in, buy it and give it a decent burial. Perhaps we could even stipulate that this seller never, ever, ever, buy or sell another Alembic again. Can I hear an "Amen?" | ||
| jacko
Senior Member Username: jacko Post Number: 910 Registered: 10-2002 |
Nooooooooooo! Bury an Alembic? Are you mad?????? graeme ;-) | ||
| inthelows
Member Username: inthelows Post Number: 74 Registered: 11-2006 |
If we chip in and buy it, we could do a gig, drop it off to the next person, do the gig, so on and so on. We could go for the most seen and traveled 12 string Alembic in history. A more fitting end for the 12 string that wouldn't die! NLP | ||
| alembic_doctor
Member Username: alembic_doctor Post Number: 71 Registered: 8-2002 |
I'm in for $50. Lets trade it by the week or month or something. Maybe DW can have a contract drawn up. |
