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Dave Koch (davekoch)
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Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post

An Alembic newbie here. Considering an Alembic preamp combined with a power amp, and 8-ohm Eden 2x10 and 4x10 cabinets. Suggestions and differences between the F1X, F2B, and SF2? Combine with which QSC/Crown/Crest poweramps?

Thanks for your time,
Dave Koch
Michael Palmer (aircooled69)
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Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 6:48 am:   Edit Post

Hi Dave,
I am currently running a F2B pre amp with a Jands poweramp into an ACME Low b2 cab.
(Jands is an ausie brand audio poweramp it does the job)
All I can say is I did not know tone until I played with this Pre amp. Fat tubey chocholate, I play funk and it does the job very well. you can pritty mutch dial in whatever you want (the bright switch is absolutly killer for ping when slapping)

I love the simple controls bass mid and treble. Very simple and easy to get what you want. If you think you want more bass turn up bass same with other controls. (it has so mutch bass I run it around 2.5 on bass and it still annoys the neighbors)

I think the pre amp circut is the same as the F1x so that would be better if you run mono as it has the direct out and effect loop also. I was thinking of changing to this. I have heard of people running a SF2 in the effect loop but that would be too many knobs for me.

Hope this helps email if you have other questions

Thanks
Mike
Dave Koch (davekoch)
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Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 7:21 am:   Edit Post

Mike,
Thanks for the repsonse. I too love simplicity. My SWR SM400 has a tube preamp; ever compared preamp tone of SWR to Alembic? What other tube preamps have you played previous to Alembic? Sounds like the F1x is for me, as I just plug in the bass and run a cable to each speaker cabinet; is that what you mean about mono? My Eden cabs are (both 8 ohm) 2x10-250 watts, 4x10-500 watts. How much power/amp would I need? I've only played through pre/power combined units.

Thanks again,
Dave
Michael Palmer (aircooled69)
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Posted on Friday, January 31, 2003 - 7:05 am:   Edit Post

Hi Dave,

I haven't done a direct comparison, but I did here a SWR amp with a tube pre amp in it ( Not sure of model but it had a red face 150 watts) My housemate was looking at it. I personally like the eq on the alembic mutch better than that one. Check out the description on the alembic website for a F 1x.

http://www.alembic.com/prod/rackmount.html

There is also very interseting reading on the rest of this newsgroup about everthing worth a read to get other opinions.

As far as I understand the bass/mid/treble knobs are linked. So if you adjust one it effects the frequencys the others change. Sounds complicated but it makes it very flexble and easy to dial up great sounds. If I had to choose SWR or Alembic I woud go Alembic everytime. They just have the right attitude to creating excellent bass stuff.

You are on a good wicket with the Eden cabs. they kick ass. The setup your useing is mono at the moment. Sterio is bacically two seperate channels (like an effect on one and clean with the other) You could run a sterio or mono setup with a WT1000 Eden poweramp I have heard very good things about these (very powerfull more than enough for whatever your future needs) I would love to get one of these or a Ashdown bass magnifyer (ABM 1000) but the exchange rate between Aust and US or GB is very depressing. (everything I want is twice the price at least!!) so my dream alembics are even further off.

hope this helps

Mike

Good power amp reading:
http://alembic.com/club/messages/393/2318.html?1042642265

F 1X: http://www.harmony-central.com/Effects/Data/Alembic/F1_X-01.html

F 2B:
http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/Data/Alembic/F_2B_Tube_Preamp-01.html

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