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essencetimestwo
Intermediate Member
Username: essencetimestwo

Post Number: 125
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Saturday, December 23, 2006 - 3:40 pm:   Edit Post

http://cgi.aol.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250065320611&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1
inthelows
Advanced Member
Username: inthelows

Post Number: 234
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Saturday, December 23, 2006 - 7:59 pm:   Edit Post

What makes you think something funky's going on?
I don't rememberthis one.
NLP
olieoliver
Senior Member
Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 1025
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Saturday, December 23, 2006 - 9:47 pm:   Edit Post

I pretty sure it's a scam considering thats my bass.

I'll report to eBay.

Jeez, when will it ever end.
olieoliver
Senior Member
Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 1028
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Sunday, December 24, 2006 - 5:48 am:   Edit Post

The listing has been removed.

For all that missed it, someone listing my Spalted Maple MK -4 again.
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 1926
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Sunday, December 24, 2006 - 9:22 am:   Edit Post

Olie:

It's nice to be popular! LOL

Bill, tgo
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 4654
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, December 24, 2006 - 9:45 am:   Edit Post

Normand; in addition to the fact that this was Olie's bass and that it has been fraudulently listed several times, there were several things in the listing that, taken together, suggest a fraudulent listing.

1 - The listed "seller" had a feedback rating of 2. This in and of itself isn't bad, and fraudulent listers have hijacked other users' accounts with lots of feedback, but it should draw your attention. Often a fraudulent lister will set up a new account and stock it with a few low doller sales to make it look legitimate. In this case, clicking on the "seller's" feedback, the two previous transactions had nothing to do with music equipment. Here the user account may have been hijacked, or it may have been set up by the scammer.

2 - It was a short listing; it appears that it was a three day listing. Fraudulent listings typically run for a short period, hoping to scam someone out of their money before others discover and report the fraud and have the listing removed. Again, this in and of itself isn't a dead giveaway; there are from time to time legitimate listings that run for a short period. But it's a big hint.

3 - It's a relatively expensive item with a relatively low starting price and no reserve. Again, in and of itself, not particularly bad; some people list with low starting prices and no researve on items that they know will generate interest, but when they do, they usually have a long listing time. Coupled with the three day listing, this warrants caution.

4 - And this one is a big hint, the listing has a line near the end that says something to the effect of "email me at my office email address for by-it-now price" and gives a different address from the "seller's" user address. You should only use the user address and go through the Ebay system. Here the scammer is trying to get people to contact him outside the system. This hint, especially in light of the previously mentioned hints, seals the deal; it's a fraud.

5 - This particular listing includes a hint that it's a repeat of a previously fraudulent listing. The line at the end where the scammer wants you to contact him at a different address also includes something to the effect of "or your bid will not be considered". This is also a big hint, but in this case "consider" was spelled "concider" and was spelled that way in a previous fraudulent listing. So not only were the pictures and description copied and pasted from previous listings, so too the misspelled text added in a previously fraudulent listing was also just copied and pasted again.
precarius
Intermediate Member
Username: precarius

Post Number: 114
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Sunday, December 24, 2006 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post

The next time this bass is listed, I'm bidding $1,000,000.00
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 1928
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Sunday, December 24, 2006 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post

(Olie - time to sell?)

Bill, tgo
olieoliver
Senior Member
Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 1029
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Sunday, December 24, 2006 - 9:39 pm:   Edit Post

I'll let it go for 1/2 that. Being that I'm in the Christmas spirit and all that.
mrbassman42
New
Username: mrbassman42

Post Number: 5
Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Monday, December 25, 2006 - 1:39 am:   Edit Post

Hi Guys, I asked the "seller" a question via his office mail and he said he was on holiday in Italy which was where he could ship the bass from !! Man.... who takes there bass on Holiday ?

I hate scamming scum !!

Mark
malthumb
Advanced Member
Username: malthumb

Post Number: 395
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, December 25, 2006 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post

mrbassman42 wrote "...Man.... who takes there bass on Holiday ??"

malthumb slowly raises hand

Don't know if Mica remembers this (it was, after all 6-1/2 years ago) but when my Mark King / Series II was completed I had Alembic bypass my dealer (G Guitars) to ship it directly to me so that I could take it with me on a cruise. At least one bass accompnaies me on every vacation. Vacations are for relaxing. Playing my bass(es) helps me relax.

Peace,

James

(Message edited by malthumb on December 25, 2006)
j_gary
Advanced Member
Username: j_gary

Post Number: 225
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Monday, December 25, 2006 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post

You are a brave soul James. I'm afraid to take mine to most places we play at. I would worry my whole vacation about leaving her alone.

I would be glad to babysit if you ever have to leave her home!
inthelows
Advanced Member
Username: inthelows

Post Number: 240
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Monday, December 25, 2006 - 4:58 pm:   Edit Post

It was gone before I had the chance to copy the listing. Thanks for the info and I've caught a few myself but this one didn't look familar.
Nice to know others are whatching your back!
Merry Christmas all.
NLP

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