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fc_spoiler
Senior Member Username: fc_spoiler
Post Number: 492 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 10:34 am: | |
! The bastard! |
juggernaught
Junior Username: juggernaught
Post Number: 42 Registered: 3-2007
| Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 10:36 am: | |
it's on craigs too http://atlanta.craigslist.org/msg/324481835.html |
olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver
Post Number: 1296 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 10:47 am: | |
I notified ebay and am working on craiglist. When will it end?! |
groovelines
Senior Member Username: groovelines
Post Number: 473 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 10:50 am: | |
those pics have been photoshopped, the shadows are artificial. tenacious and creative. |
juggernaught
Junior Username: juggernaught
Post Number: 43 Registered: 3-2007
| Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 10:55 am: | |
What's the history of the actual bass? I actually emailed the craigslist guy a few days ago... |
olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver
Post Number: 1298 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 11:07 am: | |
I bought this bass about a year ago from a Guitar Center in California. They ahd listed it on eBay and I started to bid on it until I saw an identical listing and a much lower price. I contacted GC and and actually bought direct from them. The bass has been showing up ever since in scam ebay and other listings. This happens to be my favorite to play and I have no plans on selling it. Here it is at home woth it's bros' |
alembic_doctor
Advanced Member Username: alembic_doctor
Post Number: 268 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 12:43 pm: | |
I'm starting to think that you should be extremely flattered Olie. |
juggernaught
Junior Username: juggernaught
Post Number: 46 Registered: 3-2007
| Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 1:09 pm: | |
craigslist scammer emailed me. Wanted me to use something called "buySafe". What a tool. |
olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver
Post Number: 1300 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 2:08 pm: | |
Yea I got the same reply. Says he's in London for 3 months yada yada yada.... What a Putz! |
lothartu
Advanced Member Username: lothartu
Post Number: 223 Registered: 8-2003
| Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 6:29 pm: | |
Shoot an email back that says, "Really! Awesome. I'm in London too. When can we meet up so I can see the bass?" I would love to hear the response to that. - Jim |
juggernaught
Junior Username: juggernaught
Post Number: 48 Registered: 3-2007
| Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 6:33 pm: | |
Dunno, already told him we're onto him, etc. I'm hoping that will discourage a future try. Sorry to ruin your fun :/ |
olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver
Post Number: 1304 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 8:28 pm: | |
Craiglist pulled their listing but eBAy still has it listed. I notified them again. |
pennyball
New Username: pennyball
Post Number: 1 Registered: 5-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 2:54 am: | |
Hi, thanks to you guys I've kept the money in my pocket, then decided to register to such a nice and useful place!! I'll be back with the full story. Take care |
olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver
Post Number: 1305 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 6:39 am: | |
Andrea, Welcome to the club and please fill us in on the details. Olie |
cozmik_cowboy
Intermediate Member Username: cozmik_cowboy
Post Number: 143 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 7:45 am: | |
There must be something wrong with your camera, Olie - the e-bay listing clearly stated that this bass has the P/J pickup combination . Peter |
olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver
Post Number: 1306 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 7:49 am: | |
Yea I noticed that too. Not only is he a crook but he's stupid too! |
pennyball
New Username: pennyball
Post Number: 2 Registered: 5-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 9:47 am: | |
Here is the receit i got from the seller by email, just wondering if the serial number matches Olie's bass! |
olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver
Post Number: 1308 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 10:00 am: | |
No that is not the same serial number as mine. But I can assure you that the photo's on the ebay web add are of my bass. They were from Guitar center's ad on ebay from a year ago. I bet Mica could shed some light on this serial number. |
pennyball
New Username: pennyball
Post Number: 3 Registered: 5-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 10:08 am: | |
Thanks Olie, deeply appreciated. I'll let you all know the further developments of the matter, if you are interested. As a lawyer I have an idea about the whole deal that I shall disclose when my multiple questions to the seller are replied to. |
olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver
Post Number: 1309 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 10:08 am: | |
The Craiglist ad had the exact same photos but with a differant serial number. |
pennyball
New Username: pennyball
Post Number: 4 Registered: 5-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 10:14 am: | |
Your bass is being sold in Toronto too!! Check this link: http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-musical-instruments-1999-Alembic-Mark-King-4-Bass-W0QQAdIdZ11772160 |
troy
New Username: troy
Post Number: 3 Registered: 7-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 10:19 am: | |
There is no real web site at the address shown on the receipt (www.guitarfactory.biz)... it is just a search engine page for guitars. This could indicate that Guitar factory isn't real. |
juggernaught
Member Username: juggernaught
Post Number: 52 Registered: 3-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 10:22 am: | |
This guy is out of control. |
olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver
Post Number: 1310 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 10:23 am: | |
I wonder if its' the same guy or do we have multiple schmucks out there? I like the idea of having a "world famous" bass but GEEZ not this way. |
precarius
Intermediate Member Username: precarius
Post Number: 141 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 10:28 am: | |
Olie- How bout you sell me your bass cheap and I will take the burden of all the stress you must be feeling? Mike |
pennyball
New Username: pennyball
Post Number: 5 Registered: 5-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 10:29 am: | |
Thanks Juggernaught! Actually the store seems real, just Google "Guitar Factory Miranda". I've emailed them too about their receit. Meantime the Toronto ad has been removed. This story is unreal, and I've seen and heard many... |
olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver
Post Number: 1311 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 10:37 am: | |
Mike, HMMMM well I wouldn't want to put fellow player through such stress, that and the fact that this is my favorite bass. Andrea, this has been going on for at least a year that I know of. The bass is a little different now. I've added custom knobs with LED's and brass back plates since those photos
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pennyball
New Username: pennyball
Post Number: 6 Registered: 5-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 10:41 am: | |
I'll be back tomorrow with updates, if any..... You all have a good day. |
juggernaught
Member Username: juggernaught
Post Number: 53 Registered: 3-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 10:58 am: | |
Not entirely off topic, but he's also trying to scam a camera |
troy
New Username: troy
Post Number: 4 Registered: 7-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 11:00 am: | |
It looks like in 1999 Alembic was only in the 12xxx serial number range (judging by what is in the history request forum). I doubt that 99MJ17671 is a real serial number. |
olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver
Post Number: 1312 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 11:06 am: | |
Maybe thats "the camera" he use to take the photo's of "the bass". LOL The actual serial number is 99MJ11942 on this bass. |
dannobasso
Senior Member Username: dannobasso
Post Number: 541 Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 1:53 pm: | |
Olie, I absolutely love your (Distillate 5?) with the Omega cut and humcancellor. The lines are so appealing. Just showing my appreciation of a unique piece of Alembic history and your collection. |
olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver
Post Number: 1314 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 2:11 pm: | |
Thanks Danno, that's my first Alembic it's actually a Mark King With Europa Electronics and a dummy humcancellor. It's got a custom neck width on it too. |
davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck
Post Number: 5040 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 5:59 pm: | |
Hi Andrea, ciao, welcome to the board! |
pennyball
New Username: pennyball
Post Number: 7 Registered: 5-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 1:18 am: | |
Hi Davehouck, thanks a lot. At this time MICA's advice on the serial number of above is HIGHLY wanted. |
grateful
Advanced Member Username: grateful
Post Number: 204 Registered: 12-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 2:39 am: | |
Hi Andrea and welcome. The serial is most definitely fictitious: I doubt if they're up to 17671 now; my Further, finished late 2005, is 13551 and I'm sure Alembic hasn't built over 4000 instruments since then. Mark |
keavin
Senior Member Username: keavin
Post Number: 1160 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 2:42 am: | |
Question for Olie: Ive never seen knobs with LEDs,how are they hoked up?...that's pretty far-out! |
keith_h
Senior Member Username: keith_h
Post Number: 757 Registered: 2-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 5:44 am: | |
We just had a serial number thread not too long ago and as I recall they are somewhere around 14.5K at the moment. The posted serial is a fake. Keith |
olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver
Post Number: 1315 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 6:19 am: | |
Keavin, each knob has a watch battry in it. The top (ebony part) screws off to replace the battery. Each has a small set screww on the side to trun them on and off. These were the first set and as far as I know the only set made by THG. |
pennyball
New Username: pennyball
Post Number: 8 Registered: 5-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 7:29 am: | |
OLIE'S BASS Hello again, and thanks for your massive help! Check out the seller's reply to my questions: "Too late, it was picked up by the original buyer this afternoon. I had relisted it and thought I sold it...( to you) but he rang this morning....he saw the ad and must have spurred him on anyway I'm happy and so is he. I have sent you an Ebay notice to recind". He's trying to find the easy way out. I hope I can have MICA's word on this serial number, please! |
olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver
Post Number: 1316 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 7:35 am: | |
Andrea, I'm glad you're not out any money. These scam guys are real bold. I'm surprised he/she emailed you back. I'm pretty sure Mica will tell that they're not that high in serial#'s yet. |
keith_h
Senior Member Username: keith_h
Post Number: 758 Registered: 2-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 8:32 am: | |
Andrea, The serial number on the receipt is not valid. Alembic numbers every instrument sequentially and they build less than 1000 instruments per year. Currently 2007 instruments have serial numbers somewhere between 14,000 and 14,500. My 2005 Orion has a serial of 13514. It is there for impossible for a 1999 instrument to have a serial of 17671. Keith |
mica
Moderator Username: mica
Post Number: 4555 Registered: 6-2000
| Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 8:47 am: | |
I can confirm that the serial number supplied by the seller is bogus. The attempted sale is certainly a scam. |
pennyball
New Username: pennyball
Post Number: 9 Registered: 5-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 10:06 am: | |
Once again a ton of thanks to you all. I wonder what actions should I take within ebay, to avoid feedback retaliation.... |
chuck
Intermediate Member Username: chuck
Post Number: 124 Registered: 3-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 10:13 am: | |
Ollie. According to EBAY your bass was sold for $3,400.00 buy in now. Chuck |
juggernaught
Member Username: juggernaught
Post Number: 59 Registered: 3-2007
| Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 9:24 am: | |
Andrea, you bought it? That can't be good... |
57basstra
Senior Member Username: 57basstra
Post Number: 616 Registered: 4-2005
| Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 9:30 am: | |
Ebay – and their officers as individuals – needto be prosecuted for being accessories to felony theft and fraud and attempted felony theft and fraud. |
olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver
Post Number: 1317 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 9:33 am: | |
I'm pretty sure Andrea was made aware of the fraud via this forum didn't complete the sale. |
pennyball
New Username: pennyball
Post Number: 10 Registered: 5-2007
| Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 10:27 am: | |
Hi again on this painful subject! Actually I have NOT paid for the item and filed all the available complaints both on ebay.com and ebay.com.au. Bottle of champagne if anything serious happens... You all take care. |
pennyball
Junior Username: pennyball
Post Number: 11 Registered: 5-2007
| Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 8:22 am: | |
Hi Olieoliver, ebay Australia said YOU should report to them the pictured bass is YOURS, otherwise they won't act. Please check this and see if you 5 minutes to forward your issue: Hello, Thank you for writing to eBay regarding your listing concerns. I have reviewed the information that you have provided regarding the use of the images or text in item number #250112095443. Regrettably, I am only able to take action if the owner of the images or text writes to us. In some instances, sellers may have obtained permission to use the copied material. Therefore, we cannot remove listings based on the representations of third parties whose credentials we cannot verify. I do understand the potential for further issues in this type of situation. That is why, if you feel strongly about this issue, I recommend that you contact the owner of the images or text, and recommend that they contact us directly. Once we hear from them, we will take appropriate action. Again, thank you for your email and please don't hesitate to let us know if you have any further questions or concerns. Regards, Damon S. eBay Customer Support Team http://www.ebay.com.au Thanks a lot!! |
pennyball
Junior Username: pennyball
Post Number: 12 Registered: 5-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 7:33 am: | |
Hi everybody. The "seller" of Olie's bass has been suspended from ebay, thanks to you and to my insisting on them!! |
pennyball
Junior Username: pennyball
Post Number: 13 Registered: 5-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 7:34 am: | |
Hi everybody. The "seller" of Olie's bass has been suspended from ebay, thanks to you and to me insisting on them!! |