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fc_spoiler
Senior Member
Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 492
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post

! The bastard!
juggernaught
Junior
Username: juggernaught

Post Number: 42
Registered: 3-2007
Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post

it's on craigs too

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/msg/324481835.html
olieoliver
Senior Member
Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 1296
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post

I notified ebay and am working on craiglist.

When will it end?!
groovelines
Senior Member
Username: groovelines

Post Number: 473
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post

those pics have been photoshopped, the shadows are artificial. tenacious and creative.
juggernaught
Junior
Username: juggernaught

Post Number: 43
Registered: 3-2007
Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post

What's the history of the actual bass? I actually emailed the craigslist guy a few days ago...
olieoliver
Senior Member
Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 1298
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post

I bought this bass about a year ago from a Guitar Center in California. They ahd listed it on eBay and I started to bid on it until I saw an identical listing and a much lower price.
I contacted GC and and actually bought direct from them.
The bass has been showing up ever since in scam ebay and other listings.
This happens to be my favorite to play and I have no plans on selling it.


Here it is at home woth it's bros'
alembic_doctor
Advanced Member
Username: alembic_doctor

Post Number: 268
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post

I'm starting to think that you should be extremely flattered Olie.
juggernaught
Junior
Username: juggernaught

Post Number: 46
Registered: 3-2007
Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 1:09 pm:   Edit Post

craigslist scammer emailed me. Wanted me to use something called "buySafe". What a tool.
olieoliver
Senior Member
Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 1300
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 2:08 pm:   Edit Post

Yea I got the same reply. Says he's in London for 3 months yada yada yada....

What a Putz!
lothartu
Advanced Member
Username: lothartu

Post Number: 223
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 6:29 pm:   Edit Post

Shoot an email back that says, "Really! Awesome. I'm in London too. When can we meet up so I can see the bass?"

I would love to hear the response to that.

- Jim
juggernaught
Junior
Username: juggernaught

Post Number: 48
Registered: 3-2007
Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 6:33 pm:   Edit Post

Dunno, already told him we're onto him, etc. I'm hoping that will discourage a future try. Sorry to ruin your fun :/
olieoliver
Senior Member
Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 1304
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 8:28 pm:   Edit Post

Craiglist pulled their listing but eBAy still has it listed.
I notified them again.
pennyball
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Username: pennyball

Post Number: 1
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 2:54 am:   Edit Post

Hi, thanks to you guys I've kept the money in my pocket, then decided to register to such a nice and useful place!! I'll be back with the full story. Take care
olieoliver
Senior Member
Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 1305
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 6:39 am:   Edit Post

Andrea, Welcome to the club and please fill us in on the details.

Olie
cozmik_cowboy
Intermediate Member
Username: cozmik_cowboy

Post Number: 143
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 7:45 am:   Edit Post

There must be something wrong with your camera, Olie - the e-bay listing clearly stated that this bass has the P/J pickup combination :-).

Peter
olieoliver
Senior Member
Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 1306
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 7:49 am:   Edit Post

Yea I noticed that too. Not only is he a crook but he's stupid too!
pennyball
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Username: pennyball

Post Number: 2
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 9:47 am:   Edit Post

Here is the receit i got from the seller by email, just wondering if the serial number matches Olie's bass!receit
olieoliver
Senior Member
Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 1308
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post

No that is not the same serial number as mine. But I can assure you that the photo's on the ebay web add are of my bass. They were from Guitar center's ad on ebay from a year ago.

I bet Mica could shed some light on this serial number.
pennyball
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Username: pennyball

Post Number: 3
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post

Thanks Olie, deeply appreciated. I'll let you all know the further developments of the matter, if you are interested. As a lawyer I have an idea about the whole deal that I shall disclose when my multiple questions to the seller are replied to.
olieoliver
Senior Member
Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 1309
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post

The Craiglist ad had the exact same photos but with a differant serial number.
pennyball
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Username: pennyball

Post Number: 4
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post

Your bass is being sold in Toronto too!! Check this link:
http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-musical-instruments-1999-Alembic-Mark-King-4-Bass-W0QQAdIdZ11772160
troy
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Username: troy

Post Number: 3
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post

There is no real web site at the address shown on the receipt (www.guitarfactory.biz)... it is just a search engine page for guitars. This could indicate that Guitar factory isn't real.
juggernaught
Member
Username: juggernaught

Post Number: 52
Registered: 3-2007
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post

This guy is out of control.
olieoliver
Senior Member
Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 1310
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post

I wonder if its' the same guy or do we have multiple schmucks out there?

I like the idea of having a "world famous" bass but GEEZ not this way.
precarius
Intermediate Member
Username: precarius

Post Number: 141
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post

Olie- How bout you sell me your bass cheap and I will take the burden of all the stress you must be feeling?
Mike
pennyball
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Username: pennyball

Post Number: 5
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post

Thanks Juggernaught! Actually the store seems real, just Google "Guitar Factory Miranda". I've emailed them too about their receit.
Meantime the Toronto ad has been removed.
This story is unreal, and I've seen and heard many...
olieoliver
Senior Member
Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 1311
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post

Mike, HMMMM well I wouldn't want to put fellow player through such stress, that and the fact that this is my favorite bass.

Andrea, this has been going on for at least a year that I know of.

The bass is a little different now. I've added custom knobs with LED's and brass back plates since those photos
pennyball
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Username: pennyball

Post Number: 6
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post

I'll be back tomorrow with updates, if any.....
You all have a good day.
juggernaught
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Username: juggernaught

Post Number: 53
Registered: 3-2007
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post

Not entirely off topic, but he's also trying to scam a camera
troy
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Username: troy

Post Number: 4
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post

It looks like in 1999 Alembic was only in the 12xxx serial number range (judging by what is in the history request forum). I doubt that 99MJ17671 is a real serial number.
olieoliver
Senior Member
Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 1312
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post

Maybe thats "the camera" he use to take the photo's of "the bass". LOL

The actual serial number is 99MJ11942 on this bass.
dannobasso
Senior Member
Username: dannobasso

Post Number: 541
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 1:53 pm:   Edit Post

Olie, I absolutely love your (Distillate 5?) with the Omega cut and humcancellor. The lines are so appealing. Just showing my appreciation of a unique piece of Alembic history and your collection.
olieoliver
Senior Member
Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 1314
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 2:11 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks Danno, that's my first Alembic it's actually a Mark King With Europa Electronics and a dummy humcancellor.
It's got a custom neck width on it too.
davehouck
Moderator
Username: davehouck

Post Number: 5040
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 5:59 pm:   Edit Post

Hi Andrea, ciao, welcome to the board!
pennyball
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Username: pennyball

Post Number: 7
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 1:18 am:   Edit Post

Hi Davehouck, thanks a lot.
At this time MICA's advice on the serial number of above is HIGHLY wanted.
grateful
Advanced Member
Username: grateful

Post Number: 204
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 2:39 am:   Edit Post

Hi Andrea and welcome.

The serial is most definitely fictitious: I doubt if they're up to 17671 now; my Further, finished late 2005, is 13551 and I'm sure Alembic hasn't built over 4000 instruments since then.

Mark
keavin
Senior Member
Username: keavin

Post Number: 1160
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 2:42 am:   Edit Post

Question for Olie: Ive never seen knobs with LEDs,how are they hoked up?...that's pretty far-out!
keith_h
Senior Member
Username: keith_h

Post Number: 757
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 5:44 am:   Edit Post

We just had a serial number thread not too long ago and as I recall they are somewhere around 14.5K at the moment. The posted serial is a fake.

Keith
olieoliver
Senior Member
Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 1315
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 6:19 am:   Edit Post

Keavin, each knob has a watch battry in it. The top (ebony part) screws off to replace the battery. Each has a small set screww on the side to trun them on and off.
These were the first set and as far as I know the only set made by THG.
pennyball
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Username: pennyball

Post Number: 8
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 7:29 am:   Edit Post

OLIE'S BASS
Hello again, and thanks for your massive help!
Check out the seller's reply to my questions: "Too late, it was picked up by the original buyer this afternoon. I had relisted it and thought I sold it...( to you) but he rang this morning....he saw the ad and must have spurred him on anyway I'm happy and so is he. I have sent you an Ebay notice to recind".
He's trying to find the easy way out.
I hope I can have MICA's word on this serial number, please!
olieoliver
Senior Member
Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 1316
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 7:35 am:   Edit Post

Andrea, I'm glad you're not out any money. These scam guys are real bold. I'm surprised he/she emailed you back.
I'm pretty sure Mica will tell that they're not that high in serial#'s yet.
keith_h
Senior Member
Username: keith_h

Post Number: 758
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 8:32 am:   Edit Post

Andrea,
The serial number on the receipt is not valid. Alembic numbers every instrument sequentially and they build less than 1000 instruments per year. Currently 2007 instruments have serial numbers somewhere between 14,000 and 14,500. My 2005 Orion has a serial of 13514. It is there for impossible for a 1999 instrument to have a serial of 17671.

Keith
mica
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Username: mica

Post Number: 4555
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 8:47 am:   Edit Post

I can confirm that the serial number supplied by the seller is bogus. The attempted sale is certainly a scam.
pennyball
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Username: pennyball

Post Number: 9
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post

Once again a ton of thanks to you all. I wonder what actions should I take within ebay, to avoid feedback retaliation....
chuck
Intermediate Member
Username: chuck

Post Number: 124
Registered: 3-2005
Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post

Ollie.
According to EBAY your bass was sold for $3,400.00 buy in now.
Chuck
juggernaught
Member
Username: juggernaught

Post Number: 59
Registered: 3-2007
Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 9:24 am:   Edit Post

Andrea, you bought it? That can't be good...
57basstra
Senior Member
Username: 57basstra

Post Number: 616
Registered: 4-2005
Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 9:30 am:   Edit Post

Ebay and their officers as individuals needto be prosecuted for being accessories to felony theft and fraud and attempted felony theft and fraud.
olieoliver
Senior Member
Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 1317
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 9:33 am:   Edit Post

I'm pretty sure Andrea was made aware of the fraud via this forum didn't complete the sale.
pennyball
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Username: pennyball

Post Number: 10
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post

Hi again on this painful subject! Actually I have NOT paid for the item and filed all the available complaints both on ebay.com and ebay.com.au.
Bottle of champagne if anything serious happens...
You all take care.
pennyball
Junior
Username: pennyball

Post Number: 11
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 8:22 am:   Edit Post

Hi Olieoliver, ebay Australia said YOU should report to them the pictured bass is YOURS, otherwise they won't act.
Please check this and see if you 5 minutes to forward your issue:
Hello,
Thank you for writing to eBay regarding your listing concerns.
I have reviewed the information that you have provided regarding the use
of the images or text in item number #250112095443.
Regrettably, I am only able to take action if the owner of the images or
text writes to us. In some instances, sellers may have obtained
permission to use the copied material. Therefore, we cannot remove
listings based on the representations of third parties whose credentials
we cannot verify.
I do understand the potential for further issues in this type of situation. That is why, if you feel strongly about this issue, I
recommend that you contact the owner of the images or text, and recommend that they contact us directly. Once we hear from them, we will
take appropriate action.
Again, thank you for your email and please don't hesitate to let us know
if you have any further questions or concerns.
Regards, Damon S.
eBay Customer Support Team

http://www.ebay.com.au

Thanks a lot!!
pennyball
Junior
Username: pennyball

Post Number: 12
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 7:33 am:   Edit Post

Hi everybody. The "seller" of Olie's bass has been suspended from ebay, thanks to you and to my insisting on them!!
pennyball
Junior
Username: pennyball

Post Number: 13
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 7:34 am:   Edit Post

Hi everybody. The "seller" of Olie's bass has been suspended from ebay, thanks to you and to me insisting on them!!

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