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keavin
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Post Number: 1238
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 6:10 am:   Edit Post

http://cgi.ebay.com/Alembic-1977-Series-I-4-String-Bass_W0QQitemZ250140533661QQihZ015QQcategoryZ4713QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
davehouck
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Post Number: 5276
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 7:50 pm:   Edit Post

Interesting story; kinda makes you wonder what the reserve is.
keavin
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Post Number: 1241
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 5:20 am:   Edit Post

this bass is essentually brand new but with 'old' wings & for the price it's well worth it!
dwmark
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Post Number: 155
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 7:19 pm:   Edit Post

I'm watching it. Anyone else?

dw
davehouck
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Post Number: 5283
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 6:51 pm:   Edit Post

I think it's intriguing, but I don't need another bass around the house.
alembic_doctor
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Post Number: 297
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 6:59 pm:   Edit Post

How could you say that Dave. It's not just "another bass".

I want it. But, I'm so broke I can't even pay attention.
bsee
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Post Number: 1691
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 8:07 pm:   Edit Post

I might be interested if it had a Jazz neck. I just can't play an SSB with the standard neck dimensions. Sure is a beautiful piece of wood, though.

I wonder what the reserve will be and what the seller meant about deducting the electronics upgrade price from his selling price? Probably just that he set the reserve $1500 lower than he thought the bass would otherwise be worth. I get the feeling from the listing that the reserve might still be high for a 30 year old bass, but it's still a very interesting top on a mint instrument. I might take a shot at it if it stays inexpensive, but I won't be heading past $3500.

-bob
davehouck
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Post Number: 5284
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 8:11 pm:   Edit Post

You're right; it's not just "another bass". It's a very nice small body Series I.
sculleyhum
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 12-2005
Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 8:19 pm:   Edit Post

I am watching it too dw; have been waiting for a short scale to come along of this vintage and this could be the one. Given the need for the upgrade my max is probably less than Bob's IF I can keep my emotions in check as the bid deadline approaches.
bsee
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Post Number: 1693
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 8:20 pm:   Edit Post

That's why I don't subscribe to Paul's "there will always be another one" mantra. Every Alembic instrument is unique. While the differences between two Spoilers may not be that great, the higher end instruments tend to magnify the variations for me.

Sure, there will be another 70s Series SSB for sale down the road, but not in this condition. If this top resonates with you, you won't find it on any other bass. At this level, there have to be regrets when one you really want gets away.

-bob
dwmark
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Post Number: 158
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 7:23 am:   Edit Post

Bob's is higher than mine, so I won't be bidding it up. (No quarrels on value; I think it could go above that and the seller may have a reserve even higher.) Will watch with interest and hope that someone in The Club gets it.

dw
phylo
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Post Number: 71
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 8:05 am:   Edit Post

I like the seller's taste in interior design.
glocke
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Post Number: 222
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 8:06 am:   Edit Post

this showed up a few days after I got my SC sig deluxe. This bass is the one Ive been waiting for for years, a short scale SI, if I wouldnt have bought the SC, Id be all over this...
pace
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Post Number: 327
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 8:20 pm:   Edit Post

I remember this bass was in the shipping room when I was at the factory a few years back. Very sweet indeed.... Good luck Bob!!!!!
57basstra
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Username: 57basstra

Post Number: 692
Registered: 4-2005
Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 8:32 pm:   Edit Post

I'm high bidder at the moment; but reserve has not yet been met. It's likely past my budget. (it has the same body style as my Series I guitar)
bsee
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Post Number: 1695
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 8:40 pm:   Edit Post

I have no intent to aggressively chase this, so if someone out there is willing to go much past $3K, they should. If they let me know, then I am less likely to drive the bid up on them...

David said he was watching. I don't know if that carries an intent to buy, or just voyeuristic interest.

-bob
57basstra
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Post Number: 693
Registered: 4-2005
Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 9:03 pm:   Edit Post

No need to fret a bidding war here.

This little one certainly has generated more interest than any lately; at least more so than in my recent memory.
dwmark
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Post Number: 159
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Friday, July 13, 2007 - 8:45 am:   Edit Post

Bob

Watching and wanting but I'm playing (and buying) mostly five strings. I was thinking it's worth over three but not 3.5 (to me). That's why I said I'd stay out of the bidding. Probably still will.

dw
yggdrasil
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Post Number: 162
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post

I dunno - I've been offered (unsolicited) over $6k for my 77 short scale Series 1. Maybe I should've taken it ?!!
dwmark
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Post Number: 160
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 2:04 pm:   Edit Post

Frank

Figuring value on the short Series basses may be the toughest. As it turned out, this one was calling (maybe even singing) my name. But, I think the reserve was higher than any of us suspected.

dw
sculleyhum
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Post Number: 6
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Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 2:36 pm:   Edit Post

This one was particularly difficult to determine the value, or even the max I was willing to pay. It's a '77, but not exactly because of the new neck - that to me was a positive and a negative. It's an '06 with '77 electronics...needing the upgrade. The player in me didn't care - I WANT a 70's vintage small body short scale as bad or worse than dw!! But that little bit of collector didn't know what to make of it; and that is the dullest bulb in my mental tool kit.

Wonder what the reserve was $6000 (or $7000)- $1500?
dwmark
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Post Number: 161
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 3:01 pm:   Edit Post

Gary

It wasn't $6000-$1500 (that was my guess when I heard it singing). North of there. Maybe as much as $5500. That's too close to what it would cost to get one made, especially when you factor in the electronics.

dw
bsee
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Post Number: 1698
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 6:37 pm:   Edit Post

If you didn't find the bass to be particularly unique and special to you, Frank, then probably. You can't have one built for that, but you should be able to find a "typical" one for under $4K on the eBay market.
yggdrasil
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Post Number: 163
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 7:13 am:   Edit Post

Bob- well, as you know mine does have a narrower nut and the neck pup close to the neck - both features that I like a lot and aren't that common, although I would hardly call them custom appointments. It's also in great cosmetic shape (due to the previous owner having it spruced up with some new brass, pickups, etc from Alembic). I don't think it has had the electronics upgrade, but is dead quiet nonetheless - and I play it in exactly the same Toronto location as my long-gone 1977 Medium scale, which really needed the electronics upgrade (& received it before being sold to an esteemed board member :-).

I guess it's perfect for me, but those elements I don't think make it any more valuable on the open market.

Frank
bsee
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Post Number: 1700
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 8:20 am:   Edit Post

Wouldn't sell that one, then, Frank. At least not until you've found something else to pre-replace it. I very much prefer the narrow nut and I don't think they are all that common out there. I played an eight band cancer benefit yesterday and brought the #2 bass (the vermillion SC shape with Europa electronics and narrow spacing end to end). In addition to the bands, there was a small get together of local bassists in attendance and everyone was gaga over the playability of the bass. I guess it wouldn't be a bad idea to find out what Alembic would charge to narrow a neck and refinish in case an otherwise nice bass comes along at a good price.

-bob
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 5305
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 8:29 pm:   Edit Post

I would think that, unless you were going to narrow the same amount over the length of the neck, that cosmetically it wouldn't look right if the "new" taper at the edge of the neck varied from the existing taper of the interior laminations.

Frank, I've been meaning to ask; did you have the frets lowered on that '77?
57basstra
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Post Number: 696
Registered: 4-2005
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 9:24 pm:   Edit Post

Here we ebay go again.
yggdrasil
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Post Number: 164
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 5:32 am:   Edit Post

>Frank, I've been meaning to ask; did you have the frets lowered on that '77?

No, Dave - never touched the frets - I was only the second owner: I don't believe he did either.

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