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palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 422
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post

Have a look at this place
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2530295812&indexURL=5#ebayphotohosting
Not a bass but -being a baritone- more in my tone range.
HA!
dnburgess
Junior
Username: dnburgess

Post Number: 37
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 1:22 am:   Edit Post

This is what I got when I ran the description through an on line translator. I really hate those "schlabbrige, slushy Wabersounds" - can you give us a better English translation:

This is the official guitar, around the angesagten down voice Sounds (grain, Linkin park, etc.) Without being able to produce each rethink in the grasping. One has extended become the trusted feeling a 6-saitigen guitar, through that Mensur however also the deepest notes (would have it to A-A agreed) clearly and pressure full transmitted. A "normal" guitar would manage here only schlabbrige, slushy Wabersounds. The Bespielbarkeit is brilliant, one comes immediately clearly. The Griffbrett is not as wide as in a 7-saitigen, and one knows the Stringspacing of each other guitar: therefore Plug-andPlay!!
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 425
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 3:09 am:   Edit Post

HI David,
how are you on the other side of this ball?

Listen brother, I'm no native speaker too. Flemish and German are related so I tried to translate this with my German-school-knowlegde. I think Brother Werner can help but he may not be seeing this.

Just, especially for you David, I gave it a try!


This is the original guitar, to achieve more “round” sounds (Korn, Linkin Park <i>, without switch in your mind every time you take a chord. You fee like playing a normal six-string, but thanks to the longer scale are also the deepest tones (I have them tuned A-A) clearly and powerful produced. A “normal” electric guitar would produce just muddy sounds.

The payablility is just fabulous. The stretch for your fingers <scaling??> is not as wide as a 7 string guitar, and the stringspacing is just as one know from any other guitar so : “plug-and-play”.

Alembic guitars are very rare in Germany and you will not find another easily. Baritone guitars are even more rare!

The wood is the finest you can get: the body is Mahogany and the top flamed Maple. Neck is Maple and peg-head flamed Maple. The fingerboard is ebony. The construction is flawless as one can expect from this legendary guitarbuilder. Alembics can not be compared to other brands and Mass-production guitars as Ibanez who also are used for <nu> These guitars are basically more individual and high-valued!

The Alembic PU are actif, the soundcontrol based on cutting and boosting highs and lows. There’s a 3 way PU-switch. The output is a little higher than with a passive set-up: with a Rectifer, Marshall <brands> you can get immediately a genius, fat but although a very differented sound. But also the “clean” sound are a class of his own. Think about EMG (Metallica) although not so sterile. One can choose a lot of sounds from this guitar. Of course you can use baritone guitars for a lot of different musical styles, it’s a source for them who use to experiment and for those who want to stand out.

The Orion is in very nice condition. There are only very tiny scratches . The <bundstabchen> are as new. The brass bridge could need a little polishing, but except from that is everything Top!
The guitar comes with a gigbag.

Formal: it’s sold from a private person so there is no formal garanty warrant, The guitar is 100% ok and there is NO hidden failure.

WEW

Paul (the bad one and definitely non German one)
adriaan
Junior
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 24
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 4:18 am:   Edit Post

The "bundstabchen" are frets.

In case you don't know what "nu" means: it is the kewl spelling for "new", as far as I know ("kewl" is of course: cool) and here it is short for New Metal - where they like to tune a few steps lower than normal, or use 7 string guitars with a low B.

Not my cup of tea, really.
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 427
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 4:39 am:   Edit Post

And one big hand for Adriaan!
He got an A for German when in High-school!
About "Nu" ...I tought so but being not certain ...well ...I am now!!!

BTW ..."not my pint o'beer" too LOL

Paul
harald_rost
Junior
Username: harald_rost

Post Number: 15
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 6:53 am:   Edit Post

Paul,
you are 99% perfect of translating.
One more thing while adriaan already corrected the frets:

"to achieve more “round” sounds (Korn, Linkin Park"

The seller means that with this huitar it is easy to get the hip sounds of groups (like Korn, Linkin Park) which detuned their guitars down a half tone or more.

Harald



adriaan
Junior
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 25
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 8:05 am:   Edit Post

Always have been a language freak. By the way, I was born in Tilburg, the only town outside of Belgium to have a genuine Trappist brewery - well, until the last of the active monks had to retire and one of the big breweries took over. Love the Quadruple!

(Message edited by adriaan on May 15, 2003)
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 432
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Friday, May 16, 2003 - 6:49 am:   Edit Post

Brother Adriaan,

well ... that confirms the rumours I heard that Tilburg (La Trappe) indeed "lost" the right to call the beer a "Trappist". Silly rules, but ...it's the law!
BTW: I tried the Quadruple once and ...oh my ...ohmy ...oh my!!!

Harald: tanx man. Just trying to help the brothers on the other side of the pond. And to be honest, being a player living in metal-ignorance I never heard about the groups you mentioned.
I don't mean any disrespect by that!

Paul TBO

adriaan
Junior
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 28
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Friday, May 16, 2003 - 9:18 am:   Edit Post

Brother Paul,

Some twenty or thirty years ago my father produced a slide show for the monastery that they could show to visitors, and he didn't want to be paid for it, so the monks gave him a crate of beer instead. A few months later the beer was finished and my father returned the crate and the bottles, with many thanks, and he tries to leave - but no, the monks insist that he must take another crate. The third time - exactly the same. The fourth time my father returned the crate to a wine store ;-)

The brewery is still called "La Trappe" but they're probably not allowed to call it "trappistenbier". The brewery also produces a lighter beer these days for the new owner, "Moreeke", which is like De Koninck or Palm.

In case you don't already know, your Music Goddess will be playing at the North Sea Jazz Festival next July.
harald_rost
Junior
Username: harald_rost

Post Number: 16
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Friday, May 16, 2003 - 1:15 pm:   Edit Post

Paul,
I heard of that groups but never heard theirs CD's. I think I'm too old and too old fashioned for that. And I never have the desire to detune my bass (except I play the Pink Floyd Song Another Brick in the Wall where a deep D is necessary). LOL
These goups were mentiones by the seller.
Well let's go back to the bass side.

Harald
palembic
Senior Member
Username: palembic

Post Number: 434
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 1:06 am:   Edit Post

Bonnie?? Is she coming??
***sigh***
I saw here 28 years ago at the Munt-festival in Brussels. The period she recorded "Runaway" with Freebo on bass.
Tanx for info.

Paul

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