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grateful
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Username: grateful

Post Number: 273
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Monday, May 05, 2008 - 6:50 am:   Edit Post

Jeez, and I thought my Further was expensive.
lbpesq
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Post Number: 3076
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Monday, May 05, 2008 - 7:12 am:   Edit Post

Have you seen the Eddie Van Halen Frankenstrat replicas by Fender? WOW ... a beat to crap butt ugly Strat with bare wires hanging out of where the middle pickup should be and a quarter nailed down into the body to keep the bridge in the right place .. but at least it's the SAME YEAR QUARTER as the one on Eddie's guitar!!!!!!!! And only $25,000!!!!!! Such a deal!

Bill, tgo
grateful
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Post Number: 274
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 12:40 am:   Edit Post

Hadn't seen the EVH one Bill - "every cigarette burn lovingly reproduced".
paulman
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Post Number: 295
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 5:25 am:   Edit Post

I saw a review of the Lenny repro's in an issue of "Premier Guitar" magazine. Seemed pretty cool until I saw the price, and how many they are producing. Ack! Gimme another Futher for sure. Spending that kinda money on a "relic" strat is unfathomable to me.

However, if money was no longer an object I'm sure this and thousands of other guitars would be in my collection to look at, but only my Alembics would get played. :-)
lbpesq
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Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 3079
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 7:30 am:   Edit Post

Here's an EVH Strat on Ebay with a BIN that saves you $5000 off the list price! The race is ON! lol

Bill, tgo
paulman
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Username: paulman

Post Number: 297
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 1:55 pm:   Edit Post

I'd like to know what the cleaning instructions on that guitar are, so it can be kept in "like new" condition.

Unfathomable. Thanks Bill da TGO! Wanna split that one?
u14steelgtr
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Username: u14steelgtr

Post Number: 73
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 2:50 pm:   Edit Post

Edie Halen must be a player because he is certainly not a craftsmen. Is this for real or did one of you post it for laughs?

-Eric
lbpesq
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Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 3083
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 3:08 pm:   Edit Post

Absolutely for real. I even saw one in the flesh (wood?) at Gary Brawer's shop several months ago. A couple of kids were drooling over it, if you can believe that. $25,000 MSRP brand new. As P.T. Barnum noted, There's one born every minute.

Bill, tgo
u14steelgtr
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Username: u14steelgtr

Post Number: 74
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 3:12 pm:   Edit Post

OK I looked it up. This is a real guitar from Fender. Apparently this is a copy of a guitar he cobbled together when he could not afford to buy a good used guitar.

Eddie Halen's claim to fame is that he was married to Valerie Bertinelli. Given what I read about his marriage; Ed was definately of a "player" and I understand why he is her Ex. He definately has stage-presence though.

-E
byoung
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Username: byoung

Post Number: 1030
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post

Um, just for reference, Eddie Van Halen does have some notoriety as a guitar player, in addition to the aforementioned ex-wife.

i.e.: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ULEBSxP725w

Bradley
2400wattman
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Username: 2400wattman

Post Number: 544
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 12:40 am:   Edit Post

Oh who really gives a S*#T, especially since shIddie fired the bass player/voice of Van Halen. His guitar is an amalgam of parts, his amp is a Soldano and I've been listening to more and more Tom Waits over VH. Heck I did not even click on the you tube link, I'm so pissed at Ed.
grateful
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Username: grateful

Post Number: 275
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 2:16 am:   Edit Post

"Fender craftsmen scoured the land for '71 quarters".

Presumably leaving non-craftsmen to build the guitars!
dadabass2001
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Username: dadabass2001

Post Number: 892
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 5:39 am:   Edit Post

71 quarters = $17.75
sounds like a fair price....
u14steelgtr
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Username: u14steelgtr

Post Number: 75
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post

Well said Grateful!

Bradley; if any of us obtain notoriety as a musicans I hope that it will be for playing something more note-worthy than the guy in that YouTube video.
hankster
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Username: hankster

Post Number: 172
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 8:00 pm:   Edit Post

I'm not sure I'd pay $200 for the guitar, let alone $20K, but when it comes to playing, Eddie's a monster. Let's give the devil his due.

Rick
byoung
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Username: byoung

Post Number: 1032
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 7:14 pm:   Edit Post

Eugene and Mark,

While I can understand your sentiment, I'm wondering why Eddie and Fender managed to sell so many albums and guitars, respectively. I'm not saying that commercial success is the final arbiter of talent or skill, but certainly it means something?

"Vintaged" guitars that cost 20K seem somewhat absurd to me, but for the collector that just needs to have a replica of his favorite guitar player's guitar, well, good on you, then.

And while you might not appreciate the final output, the guys that do the custom builds are very talented. I don't appreciate Picasso, but I've been told (by people whose opinions I trust, our very own Valentino* among them) that he was a genius.

For those that haven't yet figured out my earlier comment (1030), that was sarcasm in the form of understatement. Whatever your opinion on him or his music, he's plainly talented. He certainly inspired a generation of guitar wankers.

Bradley

* he also said that there were guys better than him, just that he was high-profile, but I can't remember the specifics.
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 6541
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 7:54 pm:   Edit Post

Well I've never heard anyone say that Picasso was even a decent guitar player, but then I've never heard him play.

I think the thing about Eddie Van Halen was that when he arrived on the scene, within his genre, arena rock, his sound and technique were at the time quite unique. His use of tapping and the way in which he used harmonics, both within the overall context of the genre within which he employed them, was fairly new at the time. His style was subsequently copied extensively. And although I was never a fan of Van Halen the band, I knew who Eddie Van Halen was soon after the first record was released, long before he met the actress.
dannobasso
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Username: dannobasso

Post Number: 740
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 8:31 pm:   Edit Post

Also a whole bunch of young guys bought an album by a certain former Motown child star just because Eddie played a solo on it. Pity was many thought he was all over the album. NOT!

Van Halen 1 was an album that completely blew me away sonicly. It had the same effect on me that Romantic Warrior did. He has made a significant mark on the music scene regardless of his personal life and self destructive habits.
Still miffed about the way Michael Anthony was treated.

Any way....................
u14steelgtr
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Username: u14steelgtr

Post Number: 76
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks Bradley; I actually have a lot of respect for the Luthiers that build accurate reproductions of instruments. This is not the niche of Luthierie that I am focused on but I do have tremendous respect for the people that do it well. Building a reproduction of hacked-together Stratocasteresque guitar with 1 knob and a disconnected pickup selector does not strike me as a great accomplishment. I grant that accurately reproducing the paint and the pattern on the nail head does take real skill.

As for Eddie; until this thread the only thing I knew about him was what his Ex Wife said on a TV talk show a week or so ago about their drug use, infidelity, and his hard-partying life style. I also did a web search on him and his Ex wife this week and read a bit more about them than I had heard on the TV talk show.

Regarding Eddie Halen's musicianship; all I have seen/heard is the 2 or 3 YouTube videos I watched this week (starting with the one you suggested) in which he basically only did hammer-ons, pull-offs, and an occasional strum. His playing in those videos was not remarkable. While may have sold hundreds of thousands of records and he is clearly a very charismatic entertainer; one can say that about Milli Vanilli and a myriad of other one hit wonders.

But this thread was about the $20K starting bids on a couple of used Strat copies. I am among the many that do not think that a Strat "copy" with no provenance at all is going to bring that kind of money.

Time will tell what the market will bear; we are just marveling at the spectacle which lies before us. At the moment I am having fun marveling at what I am watching and reading in this thread. Anything that brings a smile to my face and actually makes me laugh has merit during these trying times

Regards
-- Eugene
grateful
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Username: grateful

Post Number: 277
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 1:53 am:   Edit Post

Sorry, I never meant to cast aspersions on SRV or EVH. It is the ridiculous price for a brand new battered Strat.

Mark
danny_bryant
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Username: danny_bryant

Post Number: 61
Registered: 9-2007
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 6:03 am:   Edit Post

IMHO a Strat is still just a Strat anyway you decorate the thing. I know these cats are trying to replicate the guitars of the artist but it still in my eyes should be no more expensive than a 1500.00 Strat. Fender endorses a lot of people but the funny thing is most of the guys dont even use the thing in the studio. Look at John Mayer, you would have never thought he uses a certain Model 1 guitar made by a guy who use to work here in the 70's would you...

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