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ulf
Junior
Username: ulf

Post Number: 20
Registered: 5-2008
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 3:17 am:   Edit Post

is this a fake?

cgi.ebay.com/Alembic-Stanley-Clark-Signature-Deluxe-4-String-Bass_W0QQitemZ270299203145QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item270299203145&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
adriaan
Senior Member
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 1997
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 3:42 am:   Edit Post

Pictures are not showing, and the price is very low for a Signature Deluxe. This is seller's first item, and the only bidder has only ever bid on this item.
ptm1diver
New
Username: ptm1diver

Post Number: 8
Registered: 7-2008
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 4:08 am:   Edit Post

I think that I saw this bass on another site for sale and I asked if was still available and for more information, such as serial number. I received no response to my inquiry. The language on the ebay add and the other site are very similar. I'm sorry I don't remember the other web site address. If this is real, I would definately bid on it. It has Paypal protection, but how good is that?
ptm1diver
New
Username: ptm1diver

Post Number: 9
Registered: 7-2008
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 4:13 am:   Edit Post

Hi everyone, I just found the other listing that sounds like this bass.

UsedGuitarSales.com

http://www.usedguitarsales.com/page-1527.html

The listing is as follows:

Alembic Stanley Clark Signature Deluxe 4-String Bass

Page Views: 2568
Date Added: 07/14/2008
Last Updated: 07/14/2008
Year: 2008

Make: Alembic

Model: Stanley Clark Sig. Deluxe

Price: 1150

Description:
This bass was earmarked at the Factory as a "prize," and they said that it sounded unbelievable. This bass is a four string, right handed bass with a short scale neck, this means 30.75 inch scale length, and 1.5 at the nut. The bass has Neck-through body construction with two laminates of Purpleheart and three Maple laminates. The core is mahogany, and the front drop plates and rear drop plates are bookmatched sets of Coco Bolo.

Each Stanley Clark Signature bass comes with two of the famous Alembic AXY 4 pickups with low frequency filter Q-switches(2), and master vol, two filter freq. knobs, one for each pickup, and a pan knob, and one toggle for the activation of the LEDs in red. The Alembic logo in brass is featured prominently on a coco bolo veneered headstock, front and back! Happy Bidding, and only serious questions for serious bidders please. You may look at other Alembic guitars at iconguitars.net This instrument comes with warranty and paperwork. Register online with Alembic when you get the Bass. More info and pictures by email. Thanks

The name and info listed on the above add were as follows:

Contact: Michael Carroll

Address: 2118 Wilshire Blvd., #550

City: Santa Monica

State: California

Phone: 3105789553
adriaan
Senior Member
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 1998
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 4:21 am:   Edit Post

"You may look at other Alembic guitars at iconguitars.net" ... so there you go.
ptm1diver
New
Username: ptm1diver

Post Number: 10
Registered: 7-2008
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 4:31 am:   Edit Post

Yo Adriaan,

Sorry, too many Rockey movies.

You must admit, the Ebay and Used Guitar Sales adds are very similar?

Also, there does not seem to be enough time to even Call Mica to see if she knows anything about this item.

Paul
adriaan
Senior Member
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 1999
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 4:40 am:   Edit Post

Your secret's safe with me - no Rockey movies in my past.

Ads are near identical - somewhat suspicious. I'd contact Icon Guitars, since they appear to be the registered dealer in Massachusetts, and this could be either of the two that they list on their site.

I should correct my earlier comment about the "only bidder" - there are four bidders on the e-bay auction.
ptm1diver
Junior
Username: ptm1diver

Post Number: 11
Registered: 7-2008
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 4:47 am:   Edit Post

If its real, I'd take it. It would go nice with the Buckeye Burl Further that Mica just sent me. Sweeeet Guitar.

And time will tell..... the other chapters of the story.

Paul
keith_h
Senior Member
Username: keith_h

Post Number: 1168
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 5:44 am:   Edit Post

It sure looks a lot like the Stanley Clarke Deluxe at lower right on the Icon Guitars website. I also noticed that the e-bay sale says it is in Wausau, WI and the used guitar sales say it is in Santa Monica, CA. Not to mention it is listed at way too low of a price and appears to be a short duration auction. That along with the zero feedback makes me highly suspect that this is a scam.

Keith
3rd_ray
Intermediate Member
Username: 3rd_ray

Post Number: 125
Registered: 2-2008
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 5:50 am:   Edit Post

We've seen this bass before...

http://alembic.com/club/messages/395/50984.html?1210127869

Mike
effclef
Senior Member
Username: effclef

Post Number: 533
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 5:52 am:   Edit Post

Hmm, Stanley's name spelled wrong, the pics don't load today, and the fine print on insurance says UPS will cover up to $100. Wow!
Effclef
adriaan
Senior Member
Username: adriaan

Post Number: 2000
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 5:57 am:   Edit Post

Good catch, Mike - it certainly looks like the one on the usedguitarsales.com page.
goop
Junior
Username: goop

Post Number: 15
Registered: 7-2008
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 5:59 am:   Edit Post

I see this kind of thing on eBay from time to time; some awesome item at a cheap price from a seller who just registered and has no feedback. Of course my instincts have told me to abstain and I have resisted. These auctions could be legitimate though. I notice a recent change in Paypal's buyer protection policy. It seems the full amount is now insured for certain items, which is the case here. It only used to be part of the sale price depending on seller experience. I believe there was a maximum of $2000. If you are seriously interested in this item, read the Paypal links about buyer protection, bid away and pay with Paypal. Before paying, I would contact the seller and ask for full contact information including phone number. You could call them. When you are comfortable, make a payment asap and follow up for the tracking number. If you get the tracking number, make sure it, or something is on the way to you. It should arrive within one week and you will have time to make a claim if need be. If you do not get the tracking number within a week, I would file a claim with Paypal right away. They encourage you to work out any problems yourselves, but you only have 45 days to file a claim.
mica
Moderator
Username: mica

Post Number: 5686
Registered: 6-2000
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 8:04 am:   Edit Post

This wood is very distinctive. We've also seen it here, which is where I believe the bass currently resides.
ralphl
Member
Username: ralphl

Post Number: 56
Registered: 4-2008
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post

It sold for $3277.00. If this is for real, someone got a pretty good deal! Goop had some good suggestions which I hope the buyer is using.
mike1762
Intermediate Member
Username: mike1762

Post Number: 169
Registered: 1-2008
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 5:24 pm:   Edit Post

Isn't this the bass: http://alembic.com/club/messages/411/50066.html?1206893569
tdukes
Member
Username: tdukes

Post Number: 64
Registered: 4-2008
Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 5:43 am:   Edit Post

As far as paypal goes. I bought what turned out to be a counterfeit Frampton Les Paul off of eBay. I payed with paypal and funded my paypal account with a paypal credit card. It took about a month, but I did get my money back. I was only out about $70 to ship it back insured. The price was less than $2000.

It turned out to be a good thing. A day or two later I was able to buy a Tribute off of craigslist. I would not have been able to afford it if the Les Paul had been real. I'd have to be crazy to want the Frampton Les Paul over the Tribute.

Todd.
ralphl
Member
Username: ralphl

Post Number: 57
Registered: 4-2008
Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 8:29 am:   Edit Post

Today the listing was removed by Ebay. Apparently, the buyer would not pay until they saw the photos. They were never sent and now the seller is no longer registered. Scam, scam, scam.....Gratefully, no one was injured.
juggernaught
Advanced Member
Username: juggernaught

Post Number: 242
Registered: 3-2007
Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 8:43 am:   Edit Post

except, hopefully, the scammer's pride

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