| Author | Message | ||
| pocket8
Junior Username: pocket8 Post Number: 22 Registered: 10-2008 |
http://cgi.ebay.com/UNBELIEVABLY-RARE-GUITAR-ALEMBIC-12-STRING_W0QQitemZ160303991883QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item160303991883&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50 | ||
| lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq Post Number: 3408 Registered: 7-2004 |
Very pretty. Check out the upper horn - unusual shape. Nevertheless, I doubt he'll get any takers at $10,000. The market value is likely in the $2500-$3500 range. He is also inaccurate about the electronics, specifically his description of the pickup selector as choosing between active and passive. I emailed him with a more accurate description. Bill, tgo | ||
| pocket8
Junior Username: pocket8 Post Number: 23 Registered: 10-2008 |
Agreed, very pretty. The horn looks to me like a take on the early 8 string JPJ triple omega's horn. Simple but different! By the way, does anyone know how many 12 string guitars alembic has made (like a ratio to the 6 stringers)? | ||
| bluplirst
Junior Username: bluplirst Post Number: 37 Registered: 12-2004 |
Damn, this one would make a nice companion for my plum pudding. Too bad about that price. You tell him bill! | ||
| llobsterbass
Junior Username: llobsterbass Post Number: 41 Registered: 5-2004 |
The market value is likely in the $2500-$3500 range. Really? for a vintage Alembic 12-string? How do you figure? 10k seems way too high, but my guess would be around $5k (not that I have that to pay for it, but..). you don't see a lot of old 12 strings. anyone recall what similar previous guitars have sold for? | ||
| fc_spoiler
Senior Member Username: fc_spoiler Post Number: 768 Registered: 5-2006 |
Don't ask Bill :-) | ||
| tdukes
Member Username: tdukes Post Number: 69 Registered: 4-2008 |
I don't know. The last 6 string Series I guitar that I have seen on ebay went for $4,298.98. I don't know if a 12 would go for much more, but it may go for as much. Or has the market softened that much? Todd. | ||
| lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq Post Number: 3412 Registered: 7-2004 |
Here's a link from a couple of years ago discussing a Series I 12 string on ebay. It doesn't reveal how much it eventually sold for, but it does follow the ebay listing over the course of about 4 months, during which the price drops incrementally from $6500 to $3999 as it keeps failing to attract any bids. Given this thread, what I paid for my '77 Series I 12 string on ebay, and the few others I've followed, one should be able to buy one of these for less than $4000. And oh yea, don't ask Bill! lol Bill, tgo | ||
| pocket8
Junior Username: pocket8 Post Number: 24 Registered: 10-2008 |
I was wrong!!!! The horn does not remind me of the old JPJ 8 string Alembic triple omega, because the bass I am thinking of is a BecVar copy of the Alembic design: http://www.alembic.com/club/messages/411/43817.png. If I had inspected the tailpiece more closely and noticed the lack of an Alembic logo, I would not have made the mistake initially! I also found an old thread in case anyone wants to read about Ed Roman's BecVar "ghostbuilding" claim that was set striaght from an employee at Alembic. Plus there's a bunch of Ed Roman bashing, including characterizations of his demeanor and his prevarications, all of which I found to be pure edutainment: http://alembic.com/club/messages/411/3778.html?1228026550 The most melodious of low end forums sets everything straight as usual, except for why the guitar mentioned in the title of this thread is supposed to be worth 10K! | ||
| pocket8
Junior Username: pocket8 Post Number: 25 Registered: 10-2008 |
I've got it (loud forehead slapping noise)!!! Maybe this Alembic 12 string has a set of those amazing "Fender-Gibson" strings that seem to be driving up the price of a lot of other guitars on Ebay! At least that's my current hypothesis, and I'm sticking to it until something else that better explains the price conundrum comes along! | ||
| bluplirst
Junior Username: bluplirst Post Number: 38 Registered: 12-2004 |
Not that anyone here is going to bid on this one, but there is some info I thought would help. I thought it looked like some cracks in the top of this guitar so I asked the seller and here is his reply: "Yes, as it turns out, the "bubble" down by the strap pin is actually two "bubbles", and they are both the result of a crack... ALSO... I found two more (cracks, not bubbles this time) that extend from the brass backplate down towards the "peg"... They are on the back side only..." Just something to think about as we spend the next year or so watching the price go down. | ||
| lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq Post Number: 3427 Registered: 7-2004 |
Well, it's back at a "lower" price: $8750. The seller says he got lots of email telling him the price was too high and also calling attention to two more cracks. So the seller claims that, in "the Christmas spirit" he's lowered the price. He's still claiming the pickup selector has a "passive Les Paul" setting! Bill, tgo | ||
| pocket8
Junior Username: pocket8 Post Number: 34 Registered: 10-2008 |
When he says "passive Les Paul", does he mean the classic Les Paul guitar, or a setting for a non-agitated Lester Polfus? If the guitar has the first that's cool, but the second is far more interesting! | ||
| pace
Advanced Member Username: pace Post Number: 390 Registered: 4-2004 |
>>>Check out the upper horn - unusual shape<<< http://alembic.com/club/messages/411/37834.html?1174698541 No kidding, Its the second one I've seen! | ||
| hydrargyrum
Senior Member Username: hydrargyrum Post Number: 427 Registered: 3-2004 |
I noticed that as well Mike. Quite odd. I spoke with the seller via email regarding this guitar, and received some pretty cordial replies. It seems that he isn't totally set on selling the guitar, but thought he would put it out there to see if there were any bites. I tried to convince him to post on the forum, but he says that he is too intimidated. | ||
| lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq Post Number: 3442 Registered: 7-2004 |
My communication with him was also very pleasant. I think he just doesn't know much about Alembics, or maybe even guitars in general. Bill, tgo | ||
| bluplirst
Junior Username: bluplirst Post Number: 41 Registered: 12-2004 |
I agree-he seems like a nice guy. If I had the cash, I wouldn't bat an eye at paying up to 5k for this one. It just looks awesome. |
