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bassman10096
Senior Member Username: bassman10096
Post Number: 1202 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 8:09 pm: | |
http://cgi.ebay.com/Alembic-Vintage-Bass-1981-L-K_W0QQitemZ220389281466QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item220389281466&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A10%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 Brass control plate on the front and single pickup. I think I remember there being some Japanese import Alembics with only one. |
davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck
Post Number: 7849 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 8:24 pm: | |
These were made for export to Japan. There have been a number of prior threads about them; and there are a few in the Showcase section. If I recall correctly, there were some guitars as well as basses in this run. |
to_81_0190
Member Username: to_81_0190
Post Number: 95 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 8:42 pm: | |
Mine is in Showcase. Single pickup Distillate basses and guitars are available very often in Japanese market even nowadays. |
tbrannon
Senior Member Username: tbrannon
Post Number: 1007 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 9:37 pm: | |
Take a look at the logo.... something looks strange- it could just be an incredibly tarnished logo, but it almost looks like the logo is missing? Looks almost carved or something. Maybe it's just my eyes and this laptop. Anybody else see it? |
lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq
Post Number: 3660 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 11:53 pm: | |
Using the magnifier on my mouse, the logo appears standard fare, just very dirty/tarnished. Nice wood. Bill, tgo |
precarius
Advanced Member Username: precarius
Post Number: 275 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Monday, April 06, 2009 - 12:53 pm: | |
I bid $1500 on this bass and still wasn't enough for the reserve to be met. Too expensive in my opinion. |
longhorncat
Advanced Member Username: longhorncat
Post Number: 301 Registered: 8-2005
| Posted on Monday, April 06, 2009 - 1:12 pm: | |
You guys did see that the owner, ireiki4u (Pam), posted in Toshiaki's showcase thread. +1 on the $1500 valuation, although I've noticed used Alembics seem to be holding their value lately. |
bsee
Senior Member Username: bsee
Post Number: 2255 Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Monday, April 06, 2009 - 2:04 pm: | |
Alembic values have been unusually high across the board compared to what they were a few years ago. We have people offering Persuaders and Spoilers for $2K now where you didn't make a guaranteed sale five years ago above $1K. The rest of the world markets haven't moved like that. Of course, the cost of a new Alembic has increased significantly over the same period, and that is probably factoring into the used market. All that said, I just can't picture more than $1500 for a single pickup Distillate. Unless you really want that exact type of bass, there is a lot more you should be able to get for a little more money. -bob |
longhorncat
Advanced Member Username: longhorncat
Post Number: 302 Registered: 8-2005
| Posted on Monday, April 06, 2009 - 4:07 pm: | |
In the last 6 months, I've seen the value of used instruments really drop hard. Easily 30% for 70's - 80's Fenders, Rickenbackers, Wals ... Alembics seem to have held their own during that same period. |
to_81_0190
Member Username: to_81_0190
Post Number: 96 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Monday, April 06, 2009 - 4:26 pm: | |
Pam might reffered to Japanese market price for the reserve. He said that he found some info from Japan in my Showcase thread. Few Distillate basses can be found under $2k in Japan. Toshiaki |
bsee
Senior Member Username: bsee
Post Number: 2256 Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Monday, April 06, 2009 - 8:11 pm: | |
Thanks, Toshiaki. The markets on other continents are clearly different than in North America. It has been the case that you can pay almost the same number of UK pounds for a bass in Europe as you would pay in US dollars here. That's maybe a 40% higher value. I don't know the market in Japan and surrounding areas since we don't have quite as many transactions reported there, or between here and there. I would not be at all surprised to hear that these single pickup Distillates trade in the $2K vicinity there. That doesn't make it what they are worth here, though. Of course, there can always be a few people willing to pay a higher price on occasion, but I wouldn't count on it as a regular thing. I've lost a few opportunities for instruments that were being shipped to buyers in Europe and Japan because buyers there were willing to pay higher prices plus the hundreds of dollars in transportation costs and even import duties. I've also seen people selling USA-made instruments from Japan for seemingly inflated prices, probably because the market there is higher. On the other hand, some Japanese-built guitars can be acquired from there at quite reasonable prices. -bob |
to_81_0190
Member Username: to_81_0190
Post Number: 97 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Monday, April 06, 2009 - 9:57 pm: | |
This is a list of Alembics in Japanese market now. Distillate basses were sold around $1.2k before but the prices has been increased now. Toshiaki (Message edited by to 81 0190 on April 07, 2009) |
bsee
Senior Member Username: bsee
Post Number: 2257 Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, April 07, 2009 - 12:30 am: | |
Thanks, I took a look at that Japanese site. If I am reading it correctly, one or two deals look pretty good, but a lot of the prices would be way high here in the US. Do the prices on that site represent the actual prices buyers will pay, or is there a lot of negotiating that would bring them down? Those two blue Persuader basses, a five and an eight, are very attractive. Between the prices and transportation, though, I could never touch either. -bob |
to_81_0190
Member Username: to_81_0190
Post Number: 98 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, April 07, 2009 - 3:38 am: | |
Bob, I don't know that there is a room to negotiate in prices or not. It depends on shop's policy. But some of them might be sold at bargain price when the shop is having a sale. Though it's a rare thing, I have seen wonderful Alembics for sale at incredibly nice price in Japan. For example, beautiful Custom shaped omega body Signature with Tree of Life inlay was sold for $5k last year. Toshiaki |
effclef
Senior Member Username: effclef
Post Number: 544 Registered: 1-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, April 07, 2009 - 8:59 am: | |
Wow, that blue Persuader-8 is neat, Bob. $3761 according to the Yahoo currency converter. The ALEMBIC AJ-I-HB-FL at $1671 seems like a bargain. I think there was some talk about those bolt-on neck ones and the history was interesting. Certainly wouldn't see many in the USA. |
bsee
Senior Member Username: bsee
Post Number: 2258 Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, April 07, 2009 - 4:53 pm: | |
Yeah, If I could get that Persuader eight delivered to me for anything under $3K total, I'd strongly consider it. The logistics are just too difficult and my Japanese is limited to ordering at the restaurant and a few words learned from watching Shogun and Kurosawa films too many times. I thought their most reasonable deals were on older Series instruments in the vicinity of $4K. The first few listings are eye-popping, though. You'd never pay prices like that on used Orion and Essence basses in the US. -bob |
longhorncat
Advanced Member Username: longhorncat
Post Number: 304 Registered: 8-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, April 08, 2009 - 2:20 pm: | |
The Distillates reserve has been lowered. Next bid meets it ($1525 min). |