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jedisan
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Username: jedisan

Post Number: 59
Registered: 3-2008
Posted on Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 5:18 pm:   Edit Post

A very nice Series I...
tbrannon
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Username: tbrannon

Post Number: 1013
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 6:58 pm:   Edit Post

funding for the Toma_Hawk?


Ouch. That can't be fun.
kungfusheriff
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Username: kungfusheriff

Post Number: 828
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 7:31 pm:   Edit Post

Hal told me the bottom-line, Club-member price minus power supply and cable was $3500. Have at it.
briant
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Username: briant

Post Number: 303
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2009 - 5:30 pm:   Edit Post

"..are used by the Great Stanley Clarke and are considered "The Rose Royce of Basses" bar none."

I've never heard of Rose Royce before... perhaps "Rolls Royce"?

"You are bidding on a Vintage Classic 1976...this is a a very strong 36 year old Vintage Classic Alembic Bass."

33 years old if it was built in 1976.

Too bad it is a short scale.
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 7874
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2009 - 7:26 pm:   Edit Post

You've never heard of Rose Royce? (Alembic sighting!)

You've probably heard this.

(Message edited by davehouck on April 11, 2009)
musashi
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Username: musashi

Post Number: 25
Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post

I might be interested at the $3500 figure mentioned. What is the serial number and does the instrument come with a case? Thanks.
longhorncat
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Username: longhorncat

Post Number: 305
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 1:19 pm:   Edit Post

Brian,

Would you rather have a long or medium scale Series?
briant
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Username: briant

Post Number: 305
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 2:31 pm:   Edit Post

Long or extra long when I finally pull the trigger. Anything shorter than 34" scale feels funky to me.
sculleyhum
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Post Number: 7
Registered: 12-2005
Posted on Monday, April 13, 2009 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post

I am definitely interested, however the way the auction has been run the $3500 does not seem like an acceptable price to the seller (raising the price daily - still no bidders on ebay).

Was this bass offered here first? I didn't find 76-484 listed here.
kungfusheriff
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Username: kungfusheriff

Post Number: 829
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 1:55 pm:   Edit Post

...now at $5,000...
attmann
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Username: attmann

Post Number: 32
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 6:55 am:   Edit Post

...$5100 to be exact.
A quite interesting strategy to deminuish potential buying interest. My guess is the seller is preventing himself from loosing this baby ...
mike1762
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Username: mike1762

Post Number: 288
Registered: 1-2008
Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 7:13 am:   Edit Post

???
lbpesq
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Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 3700
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 9:01 am:   Edit Post

Quick, grab it now, before the price increases to $5200!
lbpesq
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Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 3704
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post

Spoke too soon, now it's at a $5300 opening bid! If only the economy performed as well as this bass! lol

Bill, tgo
olieoliver
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Username: olieoliver

Post Number: 2258
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post

I'll admit I'm a bit confused, the ad states "....Power Supply and Cable INCLUDED..." but one of the questions is answered "...Alembic Power Supply (DS-5R) and case are sold separately".

It is a great lookiong bass!

OO
jfiles
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Post Number: 7
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post

Well, I don't know about you guys, but I'm waiting until he raises it to $7,500 before I start bidding. I figure the lower my stock portfolio goes the more I should also have to pay for a used bass.
lbpesq
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Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 3705
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post

Where the ad says that the power supply and cable are included, it also says: "(Ok, I am bending a little)!" I guess that means it's not the truth.

My Series I guitar was also built in 1976. Does that really mean it's worth more because it was the bi-centennial, as the ad claims?

Hey, the Yankees won the World Series in 1977, the same year my Series I 12 string was built. Does that make it more valuable, especially since both have the word "Series" in them! WOW, what a coincidence, this is downright spooky!

Bill, tgo
bsee
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Username: bsee

Post Number: 2283
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post

This has to be the oddest auction I've seen in a very long time. If the seller doesn't want to sell, just pull the auction. The only thoughts I have are that he hopes someone will bid to lock in before the price goes up, or maybe that it is necessary to boost the starting price to ensure the final value gets where he wants it to be as the auction end approaches.

Olie, it seems that the power supply and cable were added to be included as one of the updates. I know that if I were watching this auction as a potential buyer, I would be completely turned off by the antics. A stranger might be hesitant to put thousands of dollars at risk to make a serious deal with such an apparently flighty individual. Too many changes to the auction and who knows what you're actually going to get? Well, to each his own. Maybe someone will be interested enough to bid, maybe not. I know that, if I were willing to pay $5300 for the bass, I would have placed a bid by now to lock in the price based upon the increases.

If Hal really was willing to sell it to a club member for $3500, I think he would have chimed in or posted it here, particularly when multiple people expressed interest. If you're one of the interested parties, then figure out how to email Hal, directly or through eBay, and see what he has to say. While I would be scared off looking at the auction as a stranger, I wouldn't be afraid to deal with Hal directly.

Here's hoping that, one way or another, the bass finds a good home.
attmann
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Username: attmann

Post Number: 33
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 3:49 pm:   Edit Post

Hello Mike,
your question marks seem to express you did not understand what I was trying to say:
Basically I find the seller's behaviour irritating for potential buyers - like me.
longhorncat
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Username: longhorncat

Post Number: 306
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 6:28 pm:   Edit Post

He raised the opening bid at the same time he added the power supply and cable to the auction.
sculleyhum
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Post Number: 8
Registered: 12-2005
Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 7:03 pm:   Edit Post

Bob, I was tempted to do exactly that, place a bid to lock in my price at least. But the seller scared me off of bidding; eBay is already a test of ones assessment of a sellers credibility w/o adding to the stress on a big purchase.

I have never stressed when buying from a forum member. I wish he had brought it here... guess he is playing a game with himself and bringing those of us that would seriously go after it along for the ride.
jedisan
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Username: jedisan

Post Number: 67
Registered: 3-2008
Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 7:41 pm:   Edit Post

Hal... where are you? Seems we could use some clarification on your auction. You are part of the Club after all.
eos35mm
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Username: eos35mm

Post Number: 40
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 8:44 pm:   Edit Post

Seriously, I would not bother. There will be other basses in much better condition. Anyone who is continually inflating the price of an item in that manner and slinging that type of rhetoric - sales pitch, it doesn't smell right. I say pass on it, pass on it, pass on it. Just my opinion.
flaxattack
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Username: flaxattack

Post Number: 2248
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 12:44 am:   Edit Post

i dont now who hal is but it cant be the hal2000 from 2001!!
what a joker...
raising the price in the hopes that some i need to have this bass junkie caves in? he has to have shot any chance of selling it down the tube
flaxattack
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Username: flaxattack

Post Number: 2249
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 12:46 am:   Edit Post

5400
moonliner
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Username: moonliner

Post Number: 21
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 1:39 am:   Edit Post

It's all a bit odd.
mike1762
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Post Number: 289
Registered: 1-2008
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 4:53 am:   Edit Post

Juergen

No, my "???" was not directed toward you, it was to express my bemusement over this... auction(?). I guess Hal is just having a little fun. If I were in Hal's shoes, I wouldn't want to sell the SI either. His Tomahawk concept is interesting, but an unknown as far as what the design will translate into. I would definitely hang-on to what I had until I had the Tomahawk in my hands.
fc_spoiler
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Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 841
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post

YSHBIT price (You should have bought it then price)
eos35mm
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Username: eos35mm

Post Number: 41
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post

LOL,
Hal is having fun because "we" are responding to his antics. Look at his responses, he knows that in all likelyhood it will not be sold the way this auction is evolving. It will become a tree by then..look leaves are growing from the headstock.
On a more serious note, Stanley's bass have thinned down necks, assuming the fret board is thinned also, how does that affect the E and G strings, would they be too close to the edge of the fret board?
bsee
Senior Member
Username: bsee

Post Number: 2287
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 6:40 pm:   Edit Post

The string spacing is tighter at the nut, Roger. The result is strings that are closer to each other, not closer to the edge of the world.
eos35mm
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Username: eos35mm

Post Number: 42
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 7:33 pm:   Edit Post

Thx. So he uses a nut with narrower spacing. I thought the neck was actually thinned down and tapered..
mike1762
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Username: mike1762

Post Number: 294
Registered: 1-2008
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 3:45 am:   Edit Post

The nut width is the same as a Jazz isn't it?
toddharris
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Username: toddharris

Post Number: 28
Registered: 7-2008
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 7:48 am:   Edit Post

When I first read the auction and sent the question to Hal about the cable, case and powerpack, he responded that they weren't included, but the next day added them and increased the price. When I read in his description "Therefore, the price of this bass, can and will be revised until someone initialize the first bid... (don't expect a drop in price on revisions) I realized he doesn't understand the mechanics of auctions - his remark that people can enjoy watching the bid increase seem to indicate he thinks that people take pleasure in seeing prices go up - just be glad you were born who you are - takes all kinds!
bsee
Senior Member
Username: bsee

Post Number: 2290
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 8:05 am:   Edit Post

Mike, Stanley's basses have an even smaller nut than a Jazz. He uses a nut width of 1.4" as compared to 1.5" for a Jazz.

Look here for a good write-up of one of Stanley's basses.

-bob

PS- If this were the NFL, I think the commissioner would have stepped in to have a chat with Hal by now.

(Message edited by bsee on April 17, 2009)
lbpesq
Senior Member
Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 3718
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 9:28 am:   Edit Post

oops

(Message edited by lbpesq on April 17, 2009)
fc_spoiler
Senior Member
Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 847
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 1:39 pm:   Edit Post

Oh boy, only 1d 2h 8m left.

Popcorn beverages within reach and I have been to the shop where they pretend to sell coffee ;-) (though you can get good coffee there), can't wait to see this auction end :-)
attmann
Junior
Username: attmann

Post Number: 34
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 3:53 pm:   Edit Post

To me watching the whole auction procedure(and the buzz it has created) has become a totally absurd, useless and even annoying issue by now. Raising the starting bid - actually acting somewhat as a bidder in a very odd way - may comply with ebay rules - yet I think it is abusive. I have never seen anybody do this before. Perhaps he feels entitled to act this very special way just by owning this very special "bicentennial" axe.
bsee
Senior Member
Username: bsee

Post Number: 2291
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 4:42 pm:   Edit Post

If anyone actually wants to buy this bass at the alleged $3500 price, or at any reasonable price, they should look up Hal's contact info and let him know. He may not even know that this thread exists, and he certainly hasn't posted here. He's in the process of placing an order for his dream bass, so he could really be interested in making a fair sale.

The rest of us should forget that this whole thing is even happening, or at least should watch quietly if we must. The seller is one of our members, and even if he's doing something people don't approve of on another website, he shouldn't be publicly abused for it here.

-bob

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