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toddharris
Junior Username: toddharris
Post Number: 50 Registered: 7-2008
| Posted on Friday, June 26, 2009 - 12:20 pm: | |
Only $8k!!! http://newyork.craigslist.org/que/msg/1239733262.html |
kungfusheriff
Senior Member Username: kungfusheriff
Post Number: 849 Registered: 8-2003
| Posted on Friday, June 26, 2009 - 12:34 pm: | |
Fake. It's a Fernandes with a counterfeit logo. The rosewood fingerboard is a dead giveaway. |
serialnumber12
Senior Member Username: serialnumber12
Post Number: 476 Registered: 12-2004
| Posted on Saturday, June 27, 2009 - 8:15 am: | |
yep that's a fernandes all day long! |
kungfusheriff
Senior Member Username: kungfusheriff
Post Number: 851 Registered: 8-2003
| Posted on Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 8:44 am: | |
Now relisted, more accurately, at $2600: http://newyork.craigslist.org/que/msg/1260322080.html |
tdukes
Intermediate Member Username: tdukes
Post Number: 129 Registered: 4-2008
| Posted on Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 11:35 am: | |
How is this obviously a Fernandes? I am not saying it isn't. I just want to know what makes it obvious. The '77 series I guitar I have has a rosewood fretboard. Todd. |
hydrargyrum
Senior Member Username: hydrargyrum
Post Number: 615 Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 2:09 pm: | |
If I remember correctly, you can tell because the five pin adapter doesn't have black plastic around it. I could be wrong. |
olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver
Post Number: 2613 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 2:15 pm: | |
My 89 Series II has no black plastic around the 5 pin connector. And it's a genuine Alembic! OO |
olieoliver
Senior Member Username: olieoliver
Post Number: 2614 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 2:28 pm: | |
(Message edited by olieoliver on July 09, 2009) |
tdukes
Intermediate Member Username: tdukes
Post Number: 132 Registered: 4-2008
| Posted on Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 3:02 pm: | |
No. But I have it bookmarked now. Todd. |
kungfusheriff
Senior Member Username: kungfusheriff
Post Number: 852 Registered: 8-2003
| Posted on Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 7:33 pm: | |
Rosewood fingerboard. The knobs are all wrong. The cutaways are wrong. The finish, or possibly the zebrawood, is cloudy-looking. There is no Alembic logo on the pickups or the power supply. That's all I can tell you from the photo. In person, the fel is close but not completely right. They're not bad basses, judged on their own merits, but are only a carbon copy of the real thing. |
tdukes
Intermediate Member Username: tdukes
Post Number: 133 Registered: 4-2008
| Posted on Friday, July 10, 2009 - 1:07 pm: | |
So what do you make of this guitar? It has rosewood fretboard and no alembic logo on pickups. Does it look real? Sorry my photography is not very good. Todd. (Message edited by tdukes on July 10, 2009) |
mkazaria
Junior Username: mkazaria
Post Number: 39 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Friday, July 10, 2009 - 1:30 pm: | |
Real |
kungfusheriff
Senior Member Username: kungfusheriff
Post Number: 853 Registered: 8-2003
| Posted on Friday, July 10, 2009 - 1:57 pm: | |
Looks legit to me. Seems doubtful that someone would take the time to fake a Switchcraft five-pin jack, or source a real Alembic-type jack to retrofit onto a Fernandes. The fingerboard is probably undyed ebony, which I've been told sometimes looks like rosewood. What is the shop asking for the guitar, or is that your '77? (Message edited by kungfusheriff on July 10, 2009) |
tdukes
Intermediate Member Username: tdukes
Post Number: 134 Registered: 4-2008
| Posted on Friday, July 10, 2009 - 2:44 pm: | |
I bought it from a club member a few months ago. I don't think Sam would scam me, but he only had it about a year. It's the only Series I I've played so I was wondering if I had missed something. When you discounted the bass above due to the Rosewood fretboard and no Alembic on the pickups it made me worry. I hadn't thought any copies of guitars like this were ever made, but who is to know for sure. I was surprised to see the rosewood fretboard too, but thats what it says on the wood card (in green ink, see below). Todd.
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keith_h
Senior Member Username: keith_h
Post Number: 1326 Registered: 2-2005
| Posted on Friday, July 10, 2009 - 3:27 pm: | |
Alembic has made some instruments with rosewood fingerboards. They just aren't common. Also since you have the matching build sheet I would not be concerned with a forgery. I don't ever recall seeing a forgery with a build sheet. Keith |
hieronymous
Senior Member Username: hieronymous
Post Number: 621 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Friday, July 10, 2009 - 4:19 pm: | |
I don't think the older pickups ('70s?) had "Alembic" stamped into the pickups. Check out some of the Series I guitars & basses in the showcase section... |
lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq
Post Number: 3993 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Friday, July 10, 2009 - 4:35 pm: | |
My '76 Series I guitar has a rosewood fingerboard. Bill, tgo |
mica
Moderator Username: mica
Post Number: 6241 Registered: 6-2000
| Posted on Friday, July 10, 2009 - 4:46 pm: | |
Plenty of Rosewood (and other woods) for fingerboards, especially on early models. The real kicker for the Fernandes guitars for me is the placement of the pickup selector plate. It's too close to the strings. Also, most of the Fernandes guitars are Zebrawood. I also tend to think the neck laminations are a little wider than typical. So whenever I see a Zebrawood small body, I take a closer look. Of course, in person, you can just take off the backplate for a confirmation, which is what the seller of this guitar did for me. He believed it to be a genuine Alembic when he purchased it, and was not aware he had been duped. The logo appears genuine in a photo he emailed me, but I have a suspicion that it was a pendant in a previous life. One of the many reasons we don't sell logos for remote installation. |