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angelboy
Intermediate Member
Username: angelboy

Post Number: 108
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post

I'm thinking of selling my 1997 Series I bass.

It has a 5A quilted maple front and back and it's pretty much as mint as you can get.

I've owned it for the last 5/6 years and rarely taken it out. Before that it was hung on a wall for 7 years as part of a multi-millionaires guitar (art) collection and it still had the factory strings on it when I picked it up!

Comes with an Alembic flight case, rack mount power supply and two bass power cables.

You can see it on my profile picture but I'll send you some better shots if you email me.

I'm based in the UK so it's a sterling price I'm looking for.

The custom quote is kicking out a UK price of just over 10k, but then factor shipping, duty and VAT to push it up to more like 13,000!!!

I'm looking for offers over 5k to get the ball rolling.

Contact me at angelboymanagement(at)hotmail(dot)com
jacko
Senior Member
Username: jacko

Post Number: 2456
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 4:18 am:   Edit Post

Not enough strings for me I'm afraid Paul. I hope you get a good price for it.

Graeme

p.s. try to get to bass day 2009 in manchester.
angelboy
Intermediate Member
Username: angelboy

Post Number: 109
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 8:56 am:   Edit Post

I have some pictures here:

www.greenholding.co.uk/alembic
jacko
Senior Member
Username: jacko

Post Number: 2464
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 3:56 am:   Edit Post

That's a really nice quilt. very '3D'!

graeme
llobsterbass
Member
Username: llobsterbass

Post Number: 66
Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 2:05 pm:   Edit Post

Has anyone around here seen a used Series I go for more than US $4,000 recently?
pas
Advanced Member
Username: pas

Post Number: 217
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 3:52 am:   Edit Post

Europe is a different market.
fc_spoiler
Senior Member
Username: fc_spoiler

Post Number: 982
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 7:54 am:   Edit Post

It is, but prices are roughly the same ;-)
Also some amazing bargains are possible here, I've seen an Elan (almost identical to my '90 Elan) go for E994 and a '85 Spoiler for E650
Some time ago, one of my favorite Series I basses sold for aprox. E2500.

Average price of my A basses (not counting the new Elan) is approx E1770
(The sum of the prices of the 4 divided through 4)
That's incl. a brand new '06 neck through Orion, go figure ;-)
angelboy
Intermediate Member
Username: angelboy

Post Number: 110
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 12:27 am:   Edit Post

The basses shipped from the States incur high import taxes. Up until recently you had to work out the value of the bass, add shipping costs, times that by 10% import duty then times that amount by 17.5% VAT (now 15%) so on a bass shipped direct from Alembic you're talking an extra 3000 on a 10000 bass.
As a result Alembics are a pretty rare breed in the UK.
jakebass
Member
Username: jakebass

Post Number: 93
Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 2:06 am:   Edit Post

Not sure about your duty calculations there angelboy.
I shipped an MK deluxe from Beaver at Bass Central. The bass price was $6999 and I paid 600 in duty. The exchange rate was favourable at the time it was $2.13-1 so I got the bass in my hands for a good chunk under 4K. It's your decision entirely what you charge for your bass but sadly for you buyers have an equal amount of discretion so I fear you might struggle. It's a beautiful instrument though so I wish you luck with the sale.
Jake
angelboy
Intermediate Member
Username: angelboy

Post Number: 111
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 4:04 pm:   Edit Post

Sorry, it's a 3% import duty not 10%. Still close to 2500 for a 10k bass though.

Even so, if you paid $7k for a bass showing at over $10k on the custom quote then that's 30% off list.

If we work my example, $17k with 30% off is around $12k.
$12k at 1.644 - todays exchange rate is 7300
Add 250 shipping, 3% duty then 15% VAT and the price comes to 50 short of 9k.

I'm inviting offers over 5k which is a 40% - 45% saving on new.

I think the price sounds fair for an 'as new' instrument.
Any lower and I'll happily keep it.
angelboy
Intermediate Member
Username: angelboy

Post Number: 112
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 4:13 pm:   Edit Post

I do always find it amusing how much people under estimate the cost of the Series basses and compare them to Signature models.

The Series electronics are charged out at $5700 on the custom quoter so take 30% and it's still and extra $4k!
angelboy
Intermediate Member
Username: angelboy

Post Number: 113
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 1:12 am:   Edit Post

How about this one I found:
http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=64534

Mark King Standard, 5 string with Buckeye Burl top - Alembic Quote = $11,500
Minus 30% and exchange at 1.65 ($ to ) = 4872.86
Add shipping @ 250 x Duty @ 3% x VAT @ 15% = 6068

Take of 40% off new = 3640

The guy is selling for 3999 which works out at 3582.62
angelboy
Intermediate Member
Username: angelboy

Post Number: 114
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 1:32 am:   Edit Post

How about this one at a dealer:
http://www.americanguitarsuk.com/bassshop/alembicB.php

Stanley Clarke Deluxe with Series II electronics, 24c gold hardware, coco bolo front and back and wood back plates. - USED

Alembic custom quote new - $18750 minus 30% = $13125
Into 's = 7944.88 + 250 shipping, 3% duty and 15% VAT = 9706

This bass is being sold for 8000 so here were only talking a 17.5% reduction from new!!!

Let's pretend that the original seller sold it to the shop at 40% off, the dealer is then adding close to 37% mark-up from the buy price to which he might sell for 30% mark-up, which is a fair amount profit. That would still take the bass up to just over 7500
pierreyves
Senior Member
Username: pierreyves

Post Number: 479
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 1:36 am:   Edit Post

the current price for serie I in europe is about 11.000, very expensive but real (stationmusic.de, californiamusic.fr) for brand new.
your price of ~5700 would be reduce a little.
angelboy
Intermediate Member
Username: angelboy

Post Number: 115
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 3:10 am:   Edit Post

I've been offered 4000 ($6600/4400) which is still a little to low for me.

Are there any other pre-Christmas takers?
angelboy
Intermediate Member
Username: angelboy

Post Number: 117
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Sunday, January 24, 2010 - 1:08 pm:   Edit Post

Give me a good price and I'll throw in a mint SF2!!! (To Alembic forum members only!)

Great deal!
pierreyves
Senior Member
Username: pierreyves

Post Number: 533
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Sunday, January 24, 2010 - 1:43 pm:   Edit Post

I just bought serie II sc...
angelboy
Intermediate Member
Username: angelboy

Post Number: 118
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 1:23 am:   Edit Post

Congrats!

That's what I'm after (eventually.......or as well as!)

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