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poor_nigel
Junior
Username: poor_nigel

Post Number: 49
Registered: 11-2009
Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 6:24 pm:   Edit Post

The seller thinks he has a Signature Standard, but this surely looks like a Series I with burl maple tops and backs for $7,500 - New Old Stock (NOS) - New! Somebody has not jumped this yet????????

http://cgi.ebay.com/2002-NOS-Alembic-Signature-Standard-Bass-4-Model-LSB4-I_W0QQitemZ170442010858QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item27af22b0ea
jazzyvee
Senior Member
Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 1841
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 7:22 am:   Edit Post

Yeah I just noticed and emailed the seller for confirmation. I wondered also if it was a signature bass but prepared for series electronics. But then the description states the SC-1 electronics and psu it must be a series bass.

Jazzyvee
jazzyvee
Senior Member
Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 1842
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 7:30 am:   Edit Post

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Jazzyvee

(Message edited by jazzyvee on February 05, 2010)
tubeperson
Member
Username: tubeperson

Post Number: 85
Registered: 5-2005
Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 8:38 am:   Edit Post

I have placed a bid, can never get rid of the Alembic itch! The bass is relatively close to my office and I am getting ready to visit to see if it is worth a higher bid.
tdukes
Intermediate Member
Username: tdukes

Post Number: 184
Registered: 4-2008
Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 7:15 pm:   Edit Post

Would you get the DS-5 if the instrument was just prepared for series electronics?

Todd.
angelboy
Intermediate Member
Username: angelboy

Post Number: 122
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post

Funny thing is, I advertised my mint and much better finished bass on this forum and everyone said it was overpriced, yet it works out a few hundred dollars more for one this side of the pond in the UK!
angelboy
Intermediate Member
Username: angelboy

Post Number: 123
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post

Jazzyvee, you can have mine in the UK if you're interested and after import duties and shipping it's a steal.......go on, you know you want to!
poor_nigel
Junior
Username: poor_nigel

Post Number: 50
Registered: 11-2009
Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 4:45 pm:   Edit Post

Hey Paul:

Mint is used, and a term assigned by the seller. NOS is new old stock. Unplayed, sold as new with full factory warranty. If you buy it, you go into Alembic's records as the original owner. I do not mean to argue with you, but I do not believe yours is NOS. You are a person selling a used item, where the eBay item is being sold by a dealer as brand new. Bottom line is something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. A lot of Alembics are on the market at prices that leave them unsold. I find $7,500 to be a good price for a brand new Series I with $3,000 worth of upgraded wood, and if I were in the market for a point shaped LSB 4, I would have popped the BIN and never brought it to anyone's attention here, except to post pix in the Showroon section, later. If it was an omega cut bass, same result, and I would have called it an investment, giving myself a thin 'reason' to have two omega cut LSB 4 Alembic basses. And everone here should know by now, Alembics are bought for love of the instruments, not as investments, as new ones lose so much value as soon as they become 'used' instruments.
angelboy
Intermediate Member
Username: angelboy

Post Number: 124
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Sunday, February 07, 2010 - 1:04 am:   Edit Post

It's still 8 years old regardless.

My bass was sat on a wall, never played for 7 years so should I argue mine is only 6 years old?
poor_nigel
Member
Username: poor_nigel

Post Number: 51
Registered: 11-2009
Posted on Sunday, February 07, 2010 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post

Neither one is selling, so it seems they are both listed too high for the current markets, on both sides of the Atlantic.
jazzyvee
Senior Member
Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 1847
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, February 07, 2010 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post

Hi Angelboy, anything is possible for the right price but not at the moment as I have blown my Alembic budget on a series guitar last year so the pot needs to be replenished before I can splash out on anything else.
However I'm very receptive to gifts. ... :-)

Jazzyvee

Jazzyvee
tdukes
Intermediate Member
Username: tdukes

Post Number: 185
Registered: 4-2008
Posted on Sunday, February 07, 2010 - 6:37 pm:   Edit Post

But that was a very nice series guitar you got Jazzy.

I just looked at the auction. It looks like they figured out it was a series. If no-one is bidding $7500, might as well raise the price to $12,500.

Todd.
tubeperson
Member
Username: tubeperson

Post Number: 86
Registered: 5-2005
Posted on Monday, February 08, 2010 - 7:10 am:   Edit Post

One can purchase a more recent Series I bass for the new asking price. You may even be able to get a series II at the new asking price. The current list price is not as relevant as what the list price was in 2002. I agree that unlike "vintage Fenders" our Alembics do not appreciate in value, so one must look for the true bargain to net a "gain. Still, I put in a bid, and the seller did attempt to contact him. Finally, the Power Supply had better be included at the inflated price.
angelboy
Intermediate Member
Username: angelboy

Post Number: 125
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Monday, February 08, 2010 - 7:18 am:   Edit Post

$12,500!!!......All of a sudden my bass is looking like a very reasonable price!

poor_nigel - I had an offer of 4k in the recession.....I'd say it's work an extra 0.1% now we're out of it ;)

Jazzyvee - I can give you an Alembic Series I bass if you like................ sorry I mean a PHOTO of an Alembic Series I...

(Message edited by angelboy on February 08, 2010)
mike1762
Senior Member
Username: mike1762

Post Number: 463
Registered: 1-2008
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 4:34 am:   Edit Post

If I'm buying a 2002 instrument, I honestly wouldn't care whether it was NOS or "mint": I would only consider the purchase if I'm getting it at a "used" price. Otherwise, I'm having it built to MY specs. $12,500 is more than was paid for this bass in 2002 isn't it?
jazzyvee
Senior Member
Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 1851
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 5:02 am:   Edit Post

I bought a 10 yr old NOS Orion guitar from Germany and apart from having to tighten up the controls due to the pots shaking during transit and shorting out, it was perfect. The bodywork was completely untouched and the price I negotiated was what I would have expected to pay for a used alembic guitar.

Jazzyvee
pclifton2004
Member
Username: pclifton2004

Post Number: 54
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 7:47 am:   Edit Post

This looks uncannily like a bass sold by GGuitars in 2002 - I was going to buy it then, and at that time it was offered to me at $7000. I hope this isn't the same bass, because if it is then it is definitely not NOS lol
poor_nigel
Member
Username: poor_nigel

Post Number: 62
Registered: 11-2009
Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post

And the rabbit hole gets deeper and deeper . . . Hey Paul, do you remember or have the serial number written down somewhere? This bass being sold at $12,500 is not a 'good' deal. At $7,500 for NOS, it was a good deal. If it is a used bass, the seller is breaking the law. NOS indicates the warranty is still covered, and I doubt Alembic will honor it if not sold by the original dealer to the first owner. Hmmmm, possible unhappiness afoot.
pace
Senior Member
Username: pace

Post Number: 504
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post

It does look like the NOS bass that was brokered to Kevin (kmh3..) after sitting in the GGuitars showroom for several years.... IIRC it was an '02 SI and was sold around '05-06.... If it was liquidated, changed hands a few times and the new 'owner' never turned in the warranty card, is it still NOS?
effclef
Senior Member
Username: effclef

Post Number: 580
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 5:29 am:   Edit Post

Seller now has it back to $7500 BIN...

http://cgi.ebay.com/2002-NOS-Alembic-Series-I-Bass-4_W0QQitemZ180470639330QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item2a04e36ae2
enzo
Intermediate Member
Username: enzo

Post Number: 188
Registered: 4-2009
Posted on Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post

Is this a precise strategy or he's kind of confused ?
enzo
Intermediate Member
Username: enzo

Post Number: 189
Registered: 4-2009
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 8:02 am:   Edit Post

Now down to $6400.
I don't know what you guys think about the bass but this is a deal !
mike1762
Senior Member
Username: mike1762

Post Number: 487
Registered: 1-2008
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 3:15 pm:   Edit Post

I don't know... I suspect it will have to drop another $2000 or so for it to get any real interest.
enzo
Intermediate Member
Username: enzo

Post Number: 190
Registered: 4-2009
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 8:50 pm:   Edit Post

...I mean, if that's "really" a NOS with full factory warranty.
glocke
Senior Member
Username: glocke

Post Number: 691
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2010 - 2:50 am:   Edit Post

I have the same exact bass. I bought mine used in 2001 or 2002 for $3900.00.

For this to be truly NOS with a warranty wouldnt it have to be sold from the original dealer it was shipped to?
mike1762
Senior Member
Username: mike1762

Post Number: 488
Registered: 1-2008
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2010 - 3:13 am:   Edit Post

Series Is go for around $3500 - $4000 all the time (I paid $3500 for mine... it's in pristine condition). This one would not need the electronics upgrade; therefore, I'd be willing to go another $1000. But unless this particular bass had the EXACT specs you were looking for, I don't think anyone would really care whether it was NOS or not... it's 8 yrs old.
enzo
Intermediate Member
Username: enzo

Post Number: 191
Registered: 4-2009
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2010 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post

Greg, good point on the dealer.
Mike, good to know for the future. Thanks !

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