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jazzyvee
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Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 2250
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, November 29, 2010 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Bassix-Double-Bass-Banjo-/180592323930?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Sting_Instruments&hash=item2a0c242d5a#ht_500wt_1009



I wonder if Victor Wooten has one for some tracks with Bela Fleck?
I bet he could make it cool..

Jazzyvee
jacko
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Username: jacko

Post Number: 2805
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 1:57 am:   Edit Post

If the door's the normal size that thing's Huge!! you'd never get it in your smart car ;-)

Graeme
jazzyvee
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Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 2251
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 4:09 am:   Edit Post

Apparently it breaks down into a compact size for transporting. It would be interesting to hear how it sounds tho.

Jazzyvee
tmoney61092
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Username: tmoney61092

Post Number: 593
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 4:51 am:   Edit Post

Look up the song "Iowan Gal" by Les Claypool live, he uses a "bassjo" which is basically a banjo with a 34" neck and bass strings, the sound is pretty killer and definitely different.

~Taylor
keith_h
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Username: keith_h

Post Number: 1668
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 6:04 am:   Edit Post

Not really a new idea. Take a look at this.

Keith
bigredbass
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Username: bigredbass

Post Number: 1558
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post

In the 'Ragtime Era' of the early 1900's, the instrument companies made their money with acoustic instruments. Guitars were not that prevalent, nor were they completely nailed down design-wise. This is where you see the strange birds like the 'harp' guitars.

However, banjos were a big deal, and mandolins to a lesser extent. Mandolins are essentially a fretted violin with paired strings, and this was a time for banjos before the five-string we generally think of these days. They were marketed as families of instruments, with the four voice ranges like the violin family.

So you'd see acoustic/choral groups with mandolin, mandola, mandocello, and mandobass. And parallel with banjos. That's where this bass banjo originated. Nowadays it's a (terrifying) novelty, but in its day, it was part of a multi-piece banjo orchestra (a truly blood-curdling prostpect).

The legendary Gibson designer Lloyd Loar was at Gibson in those days, and these were the times that drove his great acoustic designs.

J o e y
darkstar01
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Username: darkstar01

Post Number: 299
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 1:13 am:   Edit Post

i saw a F Style mandolin shaped upright a few years back. it was fretted like the banjo in the wikipedia link. can't seem to find a picture of one, most mandobasses were A style, but it was pretty awesome.
enzo
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Post Number: 264
Registered: 4-2009
Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 7:49 pm:   Edit Post

A tummy contour would helpful on this one lol.
cozmik_cowboy
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Post Number: 845
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 5:02 am:   Edit Post

And for those who don't play upright, here's a current take on the concept.

Peter
sonicus
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Post Number: 1447
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 7:38 am:   Edit Post

That's cool, ----- and 32" scale !
tmoney61092
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Post Number: 604
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 9:35 am:   Edit Post

the Goldtone is what Les Claypool used for the song i mentioned and plays it live

~Taylor
hifiguy
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Post Number: 243
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post

OK, who was it that went to the Andre the Giant estate sale and bought this thing?
crobbins
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Post Number: 738
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 6:09 pm:   Edit Post

adriaan
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Post Number: 2705
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 11:44 pm:   Edit Post

Here's a short clip of how the Goldtone version sounds.

Googling for The Blue Belles or Jean Rankin (as mentioned in the Gibson ad) does not find anything relevant - that's a pity.

And this clip is a 1930s banjo orchestra featuring both a double bass with a more or less banjo-shaped body and what might either be a bass banjo or a cello banjo.
jazzyvee
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Username: jazzyvee

Post Number: 2257
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 4:58 am:   Edit Post

This is another type of bass that I saw a few years back when I was playing the Womad Festivals. The whole band had three stringed instruments.


Balalaika Bass



Jazzyvee
dadabass2001
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Username: dadabass2001

Post Number: 1515
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 6:39 am:   Edit Post

Now that's not gonna make it as walk-on luggage. Do you think he uses a flight case? :-)
Mike
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 9914
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 9:10 pm:   Edit Post

He looks like he's got a solution for those folks whose basses are too heavy for a strap.
jazzyvee
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Post Number: 2261
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post

Damn, that cuts out the ZZ Top spinning guitar trick then. :-)

Jazzyvee
darkstar01
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Post Number: 302
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 11:35 pm:   Edit Post

Octobass ftw. these things were originally designed for two players; one for the fretting (there were frets), and the other for the bowing.

octobass
dadabass2001
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Username: dadabass2001

Post Number: 1518
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, December 06, 2010 - 7:50 am:   Edit Post

Dang! He's already up one step and it looks like he still wouldn't be able to reach first position after the next step! Is there a hidden third step? Was the house built around the instrument? Has anyone seen my lower jaw? :-)

Mike
lbpesq
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Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 4664
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Monday, December 06, 2010 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post

You guys have inspired me. I just picked up a Banjitar on eBay.

Bill, tgo
elwoodblue
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Username: elwoodblue

Post Number: 1148
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 3:19 am:   Edit Post

Did anyone see this?

...too bad the pics aren't better
lbpesq
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Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 4665
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 7:30 am:   Edit Post

I'm biddin'!

Bill, tgo
rjmsteel
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Username: rjmsteel

Post Number: 130
Registered: 7-2008
Posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 5:09 pm:   Edit Post

Here`s a link with detailed History, in Italian. Just Google URL and translate.
Octobasse
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 9922
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 5:26 pm:   Edit Post

This page shows how it works. You don't play the fingerboard with your fingers, and those aren't ordinary frets.
darkstar01
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Post Number: 303
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 5:34 pm:   Edit Post

well, clearly i have no idea what i'm talking about.
sure are big, though.
rjmsteel
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Username: rjmsteel

Post Number: 131
Registered: 7-2008
Posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 5:35 pm:   Edit Post

Check out the Low "C" 16.35 Hz range... just add Superfilter!
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 9923
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 6:16 pm:   Edit Post

Play it through a Bag End Elf system.
rjmsteel
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Username: rjmsteel

Post Number: 132
Registered: 7-2008
Posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 6:22 pm:   Edit Post

They did have that 4 x 21" "cabinet" at the Chicago Alembic gathering at Bag End in June of 2009.
benson_murrensun
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Username: benson_murrensun

Post Number: 393
Registered: 5-2007
Posted on Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 2:35 pm:   Edit Post

Jack Casady has a bass balalaika, but that's not Jack in the above pic...
I think he used it on one cut of his solo album.
elwoodblue
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Username: elwoodblue

Post Number: 1152
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2010 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post

Hey Bill...how did you fare with the 8-foot guitar auction?
peoplechipper
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Username: peoplechipper

Post Number: 229
Registered: 2-2009
Posted on Friday, December 31, 2010 - 12:00 am:   Edit Post

I remember that Odyssey guitar! they had it at Iron Music, where they sold the guitars and it was in their ads;4 or 5 poodle haired guys holding and playing it...if you ever see an Odyssey for sale go for it; they tend to sell cheap as most people don't know the name but they are really well made instruments,especially the carved top ones with the herringbone binding...

I shouldn't have looked at this thread,now I want a bass banjo to terrorize my bandmates and the Octobasse to terrorize my neighbours...just realised I'd have to cut a hole into my attic to fit it, I don't have 12 foot ceilings. Don't think the landlord would go for that...too bad! I wanna hear that thing 16.5 hz is subsonic!!! wicked!!! Tony
peoplechipper
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Username: peoplechipper

Post Number: 230
Registered: 2-2009
Posted on Friday, December 31, 2010 - 12:04 am:   Edit Post

There's a band called the Red Elvises, a Russian surf band and the bass player plays an electric bass balalaika...
lbpesq
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Username: lbpesq

Post Number: 4700
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Friday, December 31, 2010 - 8:12 am:   Edit Post

Being that the 8 foot Odyssey weighed 300 lbs, I wasn't real hot to get it. I wouldn't have even bid except it was local so I wouldn't have to pay shipping (ouch!). I though it might look cool hanging in my studio, and if I ever actually fulfilled my fantasy of moving to Hawaii and opening a guitar store I could hang it there. Anyway, I was left far behind when it delved into four figure territory. It eventually sold for around $3700! Heck, I could get another old Series guitar for less than that!

Have a healthy and prosperous New Year, everyone.

Bill, tgo
cozmik_cowboy
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Username: cozmik_cowboy

Post Number: 855
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Friday, December 31, 2010 - 9:02 am:   Edit Post

Red Elvis were wonderful in their screen debut in Six String Samurai - which, if you haven't seen it, is a classic of weird, and highly recommended (heck, I'd even recommend it straight....)

Peter
elwoodblue
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Username: elwoodblue

Post Number: 1159
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Friday, December 31, 2010 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post

I hear ya Bill, for under a grand it would have made a nice conversation piece . I wonder where would you get strings if one broke ?

It would look great on stage with Neil Young and his giant Magnatone.

Happy New Years !
hydrargyrum
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Username: hydrargyrum

Post Number: 905
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Friday, December 31, 2010 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post

I'll have to check out that movie Peter. I've had a bit of affection for Red Elvis for a while now.
elwoodblue
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Username: elwoodblue

Post Number: 1182
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Friday, February 04, 2011 - 2:49 pm:   Edit Post

The 8 foot Odyssey is relisted
...I don't see any strings in the new picture.
I'll admit that huge brass bridge is foreboding.

(Message edited by elwoodblue on February 04, 2011)

(Message edited by elwoodblue on February 04, 2011)
melancholy_mechanic
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 12-2010
Posted on Friday, February 04, 2011 - 6:07 pm:   Edit Post

I've seen the Red Elvises a couple times. They tour through my town every year and they are awesome!!

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