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Author Message jaybass New Username: jaybass Post Number: 1 Registered: 4-2004 Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 12:18 pm:    Hi fellow bassplayers, Due to spring-cleaning and new tour coming up I have the following 3 Alembics for sale. Email me for pictures and additional information. Alembic Persuader 5 string(spoiler body),narrow string spacing,flame walnut top,7pcs neck.Near mint. Alembic Spoiler OBS(original body style) 4 string (Standard point and crown peghead) walnut top. Near mint. Alembic Epic 4 string flame maple. Mint condition. Bass regards, J waggaboy Junior Username: waggaboy Post Number: 35 Registered: 2-2003 Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 5:52 pm:    Hi Jay, I am potentially interested in the Persuader. Do you have build details? Being a relatively new Alembician, I am not familiar with the shape and features... Kind Regards, Sean. davehouck Senior Member Username: davehouck Post Number: 483 Registered: 5-2002 Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 6:04 pm:    Sean; generally, Persuaders have P/J pickups rather than the normal soapbar; thus these pickups do not have the normal adjustment screws. The controls are also unique in that they are P-volume, J-volume, and Filter. There have been several discussions of Persuaders, one in which Mica discusses some issues regarding the controls. I'm guessing that if you run a search for Persuader you should find these discussions without too much problem. There are a few pictures in the gallery as well. However, I believe it is the case that not all Persuaders have the same pickup configuration. I'm thinking that some had 2 J-pickups rather than P and J. keavin Advanced Member Username: keavin Post Number: 303 Registered: 12-2002 Posted on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 5:09 am:    it would move them alot faster if is it possible that you can post pics for the club to see, im curios about that spoiler w/standard point body/w crown peg? waggaboy Junior Username: waggaboy Post Number: 37 Registered: 2-2003 Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 3:30 pm:    Joeri, Just to (hopefully) make it easier for everyone, here are the photos you send of the Persuader scaled to fit the board (I am happy to reduce any others you would like to eMail me): Details on the electronics: Active`/passive switch ; 2 separate volume pots for each pickup so they can be blend to your own specifications; 1 master tone pot. This last one really functions as the tone shaping knob. From very deep reaggae sound 'till sparklin' high. (Message edited by waggaboy on April 25, 2004) waggaboy Junior Username: waggaboy Post Number: 38 Registered: 2-2003 Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 3:42 pm:    Here is the body photo!!! waggaboy Junior Username: waggaboy Post Number: 39 Registered: 2-2003 Posted on Monday, April 26, 2004 - 3:44 pm:    Photos of the other two: The Epic: The Spoiler: keavin Advanced Member Username: keavin Post Number: 309 Registered: 12-2002 Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 4:38 am:    very nice collection, but wow man!!,my first time ever seeing a spoiler with that body style! bsee Junior Username: bsee Post Number: 21 Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 5:12 am:    Isn't that Persuader in a Spoiler body actually a Spoiler? My understanding is that the biggest difference was that a Persuader has P/J pickups and a Spoiler has soap bars. Can yoyu say what the scale lengths are for each instrument? Also, do you have asking prices for these, or are you trying to keep the numbers off the boards? Thanks- Bob davehouck Senior Member Username: davehouck Post Number: 495 Registered: 5-2002 Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 6:22 am:    Bob; Spoiler electronics are Volume, Pickup Selector Switch, Filter, Q Switch. Persuader elctronics are Volume, Volume, Filter. A few had the Q switch also, as apparently this one does. The difference is not necessarily in the pickups as some Persuaders did have AXY's. For a pretty detailed discussion of Persuaders by Mica, go here: http://alembic.com/club/messages/393/1126.html adriaan Advanced Member Username: adriaan Post Number: 208 Registered: 6-2002 Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 8:45 am:    Mica said that Spoiler electronics with a panpot instead of the p/u selector is actually the Elan package. So if it's a panpot then it's Elan electronics, but like Dave said 2 volume pots would make it a Persuader package - but modified with AXYs and a Q switch. What's the initial on the serial number? On the reference pages it says Persuaders have either P, V or F - perhaps for the Persuader, Vector and F...? body styles. In any case, Spoilers and Persuaders didn't come with purpleheart neck laminates as standard issue. So Jay, are you keeping any Alembics? bsee Junior Username: bsee Post Number: 23 Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 8:53 am:    Thanks for the info.