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otis
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Username: otis

Post Number: 252
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2011 - 6:41 pm:   Edit Post

Here's 2 links to 2 recent eBay auctions. Some details seem suspect. Your thoughts please?

Bass:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1980-Alembic-Series-One-4-String-Bass-Guitar-/120698665796?pt=Guitar&hash=item1c1a337b44

Guitar:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1975-Alembic-Series-One-6-String-Bass-Guitar-/120698661560?pt=Guitar&hash=item1c1a336ab8

I sent the Seller a message on eBay asking for some clarification on the guitar. Seems a little strange, but maybe I'm a little paranoid, these days.

Frank
longhorncat
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Username: longhorncat

Post Number: 389
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2011 - 8:14 pm:   Edit Post

I don't see any of the usual scam flags.
Let us know if he asks to do a deal outside of eBay.
elwoodblue
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Username: elwoodblue

Post Number: 1201
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2011 - 8:20 pm:   Edit Post

Seems legit to me...the guitar auction ended early...love those creme pickups.

Beautiful bass too.

It's good to have your guard up, I see the seller did post the serial #'s and I bet we'll see the other instruments from the mentioned estate listed.

Elwood
sonicus
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Username: sonicus

Post Number: 1697
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2011 - 8:20 pm:   Edit Post

I just communicated with him . Seem OK . I ask him for scale length of the Bass, He will measure and let me know .Said he is OK with pick up in person.He is not a player by his own admission .
Seem Cool to me .______
otis
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Username: otis

Post Number: 253
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 1:47 am:   Edit Post

Hey, Guys,

Jim Messaged me back on eBay and actually pulled down the guitar ad because of the inconsistencies. He said he's verifying the info and once he does he will relist. He actually gave his last name, too and was very nice. You're right, it didn't smack of a scam, there were just a few inconsistencies that bugged me.

Plus the pictures weren't the best. The fact that each auction was listed for a 5 day period also was good. Most scams are listed for 3 days with one small picture, no serial numbers, and the old email me first before you bid bs which are all huge red flags.

Well, good luck with whoever bids on the instruments- they look awesome.

Peace All;)

Frank
kungfusheriff
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Username: kungfusheriff

Post Number: 955
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 7:32 am:   Edit Post

Somebody buy that bass before I do. Wow.
elwoodblue
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Username: elwoodblue

Post Number: 1202
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post

Did you notice the other auctions?

California Special

and:

Essence

(Message edited by elwoodblue on March 16, 2011)

(Message edited by elwoodblue on March 16, 2011)
tbrannon
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Username: tbrannon

Post Number: 1294
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post

Man... I dig that essence.
skyboltone
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Username: skyboltone

Post Number: 61
Registered: 11-2010
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post

Is the case right for the bass? Also, holes in the electronics cover for string to string balance? Battery compartment is round and located in neck base? I'm NOT the expert here. Just questions.
kungfusheriff
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Username: kungfusheriff

Post Number: 956
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post

skyboltone, if you're referring to the Series 1 bass, then yes, all those features are correct except the case which is either old and deteriorating or was made for another bass. I'm guessing it was made in the early 1980s because I had two '82 Series basses that had round battery covers.
skyboltone
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Username: skyboltone

Post Number: 62
Registered: 11-2010
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post

Gotcha! Thanks Sheriff. Ha! Quite the cognomen you got there. Nice bass, it's gonna go up. I'm holding out for word on another series 1 that's not for sale yet. Well, maybe I'm not, it depends on the scale length and weight of this one. Hmmmm; hey poor-nigel, ready for a road trip??
skyboltone
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Username: skyboltone

Post Number: 64
Registered: 11-2010
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 2:01 pm:   Edit Post

OK. I just heard back from the seller. The series one bass is 34" scale.

(Message edited by skyboltone on March 16, 2011)
sonicus
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Username: sonicus

Post Number: 1699
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 3:42 pm:   Edit Post

That's what I just found out as well. I think Jim seems like a solid trust worthy seller. One of you might you might end up with a swell Series I . Good luck to all _______
otis
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Username: otis

Post Number: 254
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 3:52 pm:   Edit Post

KFS, I'm damn tempted as well, and I don't really play 4 string. I would play it if I had it, but I really need a backup 6 more than a pretty 4 string...

Still. Tempting...
poor_nigel
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Username: poor_nigel

Post Number: 118
Registered: 11-2009
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 6:35 pm:   Edit Post

That bass looks exactly like one I ordered over the phone from Susan a very long time ago, when I was in Washington State. The case even looks similar to the beige Anvil I had Alembic order. I doubt it is, as I was thinking I ordered it before 80 (I am severally chronologically impaired) and it is being sold in the wrong state, but we all know how these basses can move around the country - fast! If it is, I suppose I will have to borrow against my 401K, as if it is, it has graphite rods embedded in the neck, a Circassian walnut core, gold logo, gold Schallers, and a few other nifty 'upgrades,' besides the Macassar ebony lams on it. I sold it cheap to a Grandview kid (young, motivated player), and have wanted it back many times over the years. I'll post the serial number to get its history and ask if I was the original purchaser, but I know I will not get an answer until well after the auction is over. I'll ask the seller about the case, which would have a sheet plate rivieted over a section of it where an idiot placed my bass in front of an old in-wall electrical heater and it caught fire - we are talking me running outside screaming in the middle of the night with flames coming off it to wet it down in the rain and put out the fire. Not a blemish to speak of on the bass. I have some great memories of my old first Alembic. I would pay a lot to have it back.
otis
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Username: otis

Post Number: 255
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 6:59 pm:   Edit Post

Thomas, I hope you get the bass, especially if it's your old one- that would be awesome!!! Nothing like being reunited with an old friend, especially if it's an Alembic. There's really nothing like your first Alembic, is there?

Good Luck, and Godspeed;)

Frank
skyboltone
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Username: skyboltone

Post Number: 65
Registered: 11-2010
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 7:09 pm:   Edit Post

I really think TK is hoping it's NOT the same bass. ;o)
poor_nigel
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Username: poor_nigel

Post Number: 120
Registered: 11-2009
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 7:23 pm:   Edit Post

Got a phone call from Mica - That is my old bass - MUST HAVE IT! MUST RAISE MONEY FAST - NOW!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Three days left?????? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
otis
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Username: otis

Post Number: 258
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 7:50 pm:   Edit Post

Thomas, Take a deep breath, and try to remain calm. Don't stress about it- I believe you're meant to have the bass, again.

There's a few things you can do. You can bid now, and raise the $ at the same time, know what I mean? Jim seems very cool, so I'm quite sure he'll work with you.
Or you can wait and see what happens with the bidding, know what I mean? It only has 2 bids on it, as of now, so maybe just wait it out, and see what happens.

I remember a few years ago I was bidding on Rory's 6 String MK Balance K with an Omega Cut with the Coco Bolo top and back, and I lost it in the last 7 seconds or so. This was the 2nd time I'd seen it posted on eBay- the first time, Rory posted it, and I spoke with him about the bass and basically decided I didn't have the cash at that time, and that if it was meant to be, I'd see it again.

I did see it, again, and I lost it.
That really sucked.

Don't let that happen to you- plan for it, and WIN. You can do it- just focus, and she will come home to you.

Back when I was bidding on Rory's 6, I couldn't see the bigger picture, then, though- I was meant to buy KFS's SII Six, and I've been playing it like a maniac, ever since. So I guess, if by some fluke you aren't able to win the bass, then believe me, something better will come along, even though it doesn't seem like it, at the time!

Just an FYI- I've dipped into the old 401k and had a check overnighted to me, then put the money in my bank account and transferred it to my Paypal account, and still was able to complete the transaction- I emailed the Seller, of course, and told him what was up, and he had no problem with it.

If worse comes to worse, I hate to even suggest this, but use a credit card- you only live once, and if the bass means that much to you, you owe it to yourself to re-acquire it, you know?

Hey, I guess it's a good thing I posted this thread, eh? You might have missed it, otherwise!

Peace;)

Frank
sonicus
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Username: sonicus

Post Number: 1701
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 7:56 pm:   Edit Post

Thomas ____ Congratulations . I will not bid on it . I hope that you are reunited with your old friend . Best of luck to you . If you win it you can link Paypal to a credit card so ; " Plastic Fantastic Payment " will work !

Wolf
poor_nigel
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Username: poor_nigel

Post Number: 121
Registered: 11-2009
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 8:12 pm:   Edit Post

Hey Wolf, I am strickly a cash and carry guy. I just bopped my current 401K (Not my retirement one) for the funds. I seriously must have this bass. The money is nothing compared to the memories of it and all the times we had back then. It will be mine again, this I know. My first post on this club back in 2003 was about this bass:

http://alembic.com/club/messages/394/8667.html

You can never go home? True. Well, if you can scrape up enough money up in a pinch, sometimes you can at least bring pieces of yer past to your new home. I am just so excited about all this! I already e-mailed the seller to please not sell it out of auction, unless I can out bid whoever made the offer. I am very hopeful everything will work out, and this bass I have had many a great times with comes back home to stay (Till whenever - Nothing lasts forever). This is sooooo GREAT! Thanks Mica, you have made my year!!! OK, must calm down for sleep, or tomorrow will be a very rough day at work, already distracted to begin with.
skyboltone
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Username: skyboltone

Post Number: 66
Registered: 11-2010
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 8:21 pm:   Edit Post

Ok TK, then disregard my PM. Sheesh, what we do for (GAS) love eh?
sonicus
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Username: sonicus

Post Number: 1702
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 8:29 pm:   Edit Post

Thomas___ I can dig it as far as cash and carry goes ,I don't like to use the plastic either except in rare exceptions.
skyboltone
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Username: skyboltone

Post Number: 67
Registered: 11-2010
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 8:34 pm:   Edit Post

Wolf; I only use it when I know I won't be giving the b***ards any interest. It's the only way I can shield myself from the wrath of SWMBO.
sonicus
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Username: sonicus

Post Number: 1703
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 8:53 pm:   Edit Post

Yes! LOL _____I try to not carry a balance.
poor_nigel
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Username: poor_nigel

Post Number: 122
Registered: 11-2009
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 8:53 pm:   Edit Post

Opps, I should not be yakking about an instrument I am planning on bidding on. Sorry for the editing. I will repost all after the auction. My brain just does not work right any more. Sorry.

(Message edited by poor_nigel on March 16, 2011)
poor_nigel
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Username: poor_nigel

Post Number: 123
Registered: 11-2009
Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 - 3:18 pm:   Edit Post

I've decided the bass should go to whomever wants it most, besides me. So if anyone wants this old bass, don't worry bout me. Have fun.
kungfusheriff
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Username: kungfusheriff

Post Number: 958
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 6:47 pm:   Edit Post

Almost five grand for a relatively nondescript longscale Series 1. Amazing. I may have seriously undervalued the basses I sold last year. You're welcome, guys! I'm still glad you got my babies.
sonicus
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Username: sonicus

Post Number: 1718
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 7:00 pm:   Edit Post

Will the owner/keeper of 80-1681 please stand up . Anyone here ?

Congratulations to you .
skyboltone
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Username: skyboltone

Post Number: 69
Registered: 11-2010
Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 7:17 pm:   Edit Post

I'm still holding out for 75-150 from Jane some day. So it ain't me but Sonicus, check your e-mail.

Dan
sonicus
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Username: sonicus

Post Number: 1719
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 8:10 pm:   Edit Post

I did not bid on this one as per my post #1701.
poor_nigel
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Username: poor_nigel

Post Number: 125
Registered: 11-2009
Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 8:49 pm:   Edit Post

Hey Wolf, I would not bid on it for other reasons, too much stress. I do appreciate the consideration of your act. I did give all my blessing to bid on it, as his parents should get what the market will bear from its sale, and I did not think it right to stop anyone from going after something they have constitutionally gauranteed rights on. Fair is fair. OK, if you showed interest in a particular bass, I would not bid against you, either. Even if you said it was OK. We are who we are, by the consideration we show others. So thank you.

This was a rare auction where someone must have actually paid attention to me yakking about what a great bass my old one was, and then went totally nutz bidding over market value, and then some. What was the top bid placed on it? That will stay Dan's and my secret. It must have had some intrinsic value to someone out there in the world. Then again, that would only be me, eh?

This auction was stressing me out, so I gave it up, and Dan took it and placed my high bid for me. Hey Shawn, this is not a plain bass, considering it has expensive Macassar ebony lams, special core wood, gold hardware, and LEDs, which did not come standard on these basses back then. Plus it had a new innovation Susan talked me into, graphite rods embedded in the neck. They quit doing graphite necks, so this was the next best thing. I am very biased on this bass. If I paid too much (Reality - Auction should have ended close to maybe $4,000 and should not have gone over $4,500, for sure)then let me live my illusion that I got off cheap, as I certainly would have paid more. Every once in a while, you see a bass break all expectations and go for a significantly higher price than what they have been going for. I do not care about why, I got my first love back, and am a happy camper apout it. I really wanted that little Series II graphite bass you sold. Both your basses went to excellent homes, and that is what counts the most with these basses. I know the owners appreciate the deals you gave them.

Thanks to Otis, Mica, and especially Dan for their help in this matter. Yummies will be coming your way, if you e-mail me your shipping addresses. Otis, I would have seen the auction, as I check out the club and eBay on a regularf routine, but it was a five day auction, so by pointiung me there faster, you helped a lot. Mica saw my posting and gave me a call. If she had not, I would have watched the auction and would have planned on bidding, but I would have walked away when the bids that were placed hit. It is not good for me to stress out right now. So Dan did me a huge favor. Thanks ever so much Dan.

OK, time to bow and exit, and wait for next week's arrival. Glad the bass did not make it back east. It's good to have a lost one back in the flock.

Still no spell checker!

(Message edited by poor_nigel on March 20, 2011)
skyboltone
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Username: skyboltone

Post Number: 70
Registered: 11-2010
Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 9:05 pm:   Edit Post

Congratulations Mister. You of course know how I felt about you getting this instrument back. I sold my 1964 blond Tele so I could get get some nose powder in about '70. I will never forget that guitar. It was more than special, it was my first real electric. I've searched everywhere for the serial so I could go on the hunt. But alas, it's gone. It might be out there now for all I know. Depending on condition . I'd buy it in a heartbeat even though I now have a custom tele in the house. There are just some things that need doing. I'm glad we got it where we did. You was nuts mister!! But I understand.

Hooray for this forum. We got something real going on here.

Dan
poor_nigel
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Username: poor_nigel

Post Number: 127
Registered: 11-2009
Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post

I'm too spacey. Too much excitement for one day. Hey Wolf, e-mail me your address, too. I still see spelling errors on my previous post. How come I cannot see them in the little, ity, bity box I am typing stuff in, and only see them after I post? Life is to suffer . . .
Note: That I just changed my e-mail address on my profile - My sincere apologies to any one who has tried to contact me and gotten an undeliverable message back for their efforts.
otis
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Username: otis

Post Number: 259
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2011 - 2:10 pm:   Edit Post

Thomas, congrats, man! I'm glad I could help. Didn't I say you'd re-acquire the bass? Haha!!! Good for you!

May you have many happy years playing it, again!

Peace All;)

Frank
jon_jackson
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Username: jon_jackson

Post Number: 70
Registered: 12-2008
Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2011 - 7:00 pm:   Edit Post

Congratulations on the prodigal's return to join your other Alembics. What a great club!
-Jon (of the 4-string "Twin")
poor_nigel
Intermediate Member
Username: poor_nigel

Post Number: 132
Registered: 11-2009
Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2011 - 7:40 pm:   Edit Post

There is a dinner party at my house in Magalia next Tuesday night. All friends and club members are of course invited to the welcome home gathering for this lost (To me) lamb being taken back into the flock. Steak (Costco filet mignon - wahoo!) and prawns on the house. Booze, bring yer own. RSVP. Valet parking, of course. If I'm drunk, best to park it in one my neighbor's yards yourself. Thanks to all, and see you there.

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