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jetbass79
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Username: jetbass79

Post Number: 73
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 12:23 am:   Edit Post

I've decided to go (at some point) with a set neck fretless bass with Elan body and peghead for a Jazz Bass type instrument with an uber steroid problem. I thought about going with AXY pickups (totally dig them) but I'd rather keep the Jazz look with Jazz pickups.

I totally like the Europa controls on my fretted Alembic and I would like to know how this preamp works with the Jazz pickups. Are there two gain pots so that you can adjust the output of each pickup independently? I ask this because the Jazz pickups are limited in power because of geometry and I wonder if the preamp can make up for these limitations. If not, what preamps have two gain pots (one per pickup) so I may revise my thoughts?

The other question is can the pickups be placed in the "classic" Jazz Bass positions? I notice the Excel in the showroom has a neck pickup located farther away from the bridge pickup than I would like it to be. I think the bridge pickup is also located closer to the bridge than I would want it to be. I know it is being picky but, the fretless Jazz sound partly has to do with pickup placement and I want to Alembicize it. I would like the "classic" mid and bridge positions for the Jazz look.

I have definitely decided purpleheart neck lams and the sustain block have to be components of this bass. The more sustain in a fretless the merrier.
kmh364
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Username: kmh364

Post Number: 914
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 4:51 am:   Edit Post

John,

While others maintain that the "J" activators are limited in output compared to the other styles due to aperture, etc., you could fool me. While I have no means of direct comparison, I highly doubt you'll lose much going with the "J"s. I have 'em (see link below) and with the active electronics which are similar to the Europa, sans the tone switches (mine are the "EMW" package: MV, Blend, Bass, Treble, Filter and 2-P "Q" switch) it simply kick's *ss! I have absolutely no problem overdriving the hell out of my Eden WT-550 head's tube preamp with Alembic's "J" electronic package.

As far as trim pots, as far as I know, all activators have 'em for level adjust and or overall balance.

Activator spacing shouldn't be a problem either...it's usually only limited by the size of the body.

http://alembic.com/club/messages/631/8557.html?1093301442

I was looking for a hi-end J-bass as well, albeit a fretted one, and I think I got it and then some.

Good Luck in your quest for the Holy Grail of Tone...you're in the right place, LOL!

Cheers,

Kevin

BTW, Alembic made a couple of basses within the last year or so with full size "J"-style bodies and "J" activators that I believe shipped to the UK. I'll be damned if I can find 'em here, but they do exist and there are pix to prove it.
davehouck
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Username: davehouck

Post Number: 2114
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 6:06 am:   Edit Post

Here they are.
keith_h
Intermediate Member
Username: keith_h

Post Number: 138
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 6:49 am:   Edit Post

John,
Sounds similar to the bass I have on order except for the electronics. I have ordered a 4 string fretless Orion with the East Meets West electronics. I went with an ash body for more midrange and a spalted maple top. I think the sustain block would be a good enhancement for a fretless. I had thought about it but didn't get it on my wish list, so forgot when it came time to order. Now that the wife has agreed to the price (new furiniture) and my daughters college payments have started I can't go back and add one very easily.
Now I just have to be patient and wait for status and pictures (nudge, nudge ;-)).

Keith
kmh364
Senior Member
Username: kmh364

Post Number: 915
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 7:41 am:   Edit Post

Thanks, Dave. I couldn't find 'em to save my life. I knew they went to 'ole Blighty, but I couldn't remember the site. I only went with the "J"'s for aesthetic reasons (versus the MXY's), but I'm very happy with them nonetheless.
jetbass79
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Username: jetbass79

Post Number: 74
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 5:56 pm:   Edit Post

Seeing an Alembic with a normal size Jazz body is a trip! I think I will stick with the Elan shape (and peghead) as an homage to Mr. Hojin for whom that bass was originally built for. Not to mention it has less weight than a normal size Jazz body because it's a bit more trim.

I'm going to go with a fretless (paternal/fraternal -- which one is not identical?) twin of my fretted Alembic with a birdseye top and figured walnut peghead overlay. It will be different (besides the body and peghead shapes) because it will have the sustain block and the PH neck lams because a fretless needs to sustain.

I wouldn't say it's the Holy Grail of tone but it should sing. I really like the set neck models, too. I really dig how they carve the neck heels so they are just like the through neck models when using a non stock (Epic, Orion, Excel) body shape.

Now since they can do a normal Jazz shape something tells me they can do a Precision shape, and when the Gods of Economic Availability give me permission to dabble in that then my Falembic Precision Bass dream may come to fruition. But for right now, the fretless is a much higher priority.
jetbass79
Member
Username: jetbass79

Post Number: 75
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2005 - 12:31 am:   Edit Post

Oh yeah...and I'm going with Alembic's Jazz pickups...I think it will be perfect...Thank you for the information.
kmh364
Senior Member
Username: kmh364

Post Number: 917
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2005 - 4:38 am:   Edit Post

No sweat...enjoy! You won't be disappointed.

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