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| osoloco69
New Username: osoloco69 Post Number: 1 Registered: 9-2005 |
Is there a way to have a hollowbody tribute with f-holes? I would be interested in a hollowbody with a through neck and two humbuckers, one at the bridge and one at the neck, stacked tone/volume pots for the two pickups, a coil tap, stereo effects loop, master volume post loop, and a rmc midi pickup. I would like the midi volume to be handled like that of rose. Would there be anyway to buy custom plans? Are there any plans for a standard tribute for sale? Thank you. | ||
| davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 2348 Registered: 5-2002 |
Hi, welcome to the group. Your profile says you're a luthier; what kind of instruments do you build? In a previous thread on a somewhat similar request, Val's response suggests that a hollowbody, or something similar, is a subject that gets discussed at the shop from time to time. According to Val the research and development will be quite expensive as Alembic will want the results to be at their high standards. So the answer would appear to be that for a one-off custom order, a hollowbody would be exceedingly expensive and probably take a very long time. It sounds like you are asking that Alembic put non-Alembic pickups and electronics in an Alembic guitar. Again because Alembic maintains high standards, they only use Alembic pickups and electronics. An exception would be the midi pickup, which if I recall correctly, they've done a few of on a custom order basis. And speaking of custom order electronics, because custom electronics go to Ron's bench, and because such orders take time and care, and because there are always a number of projects waiting to get to his bench, a custom electronics order can be a bit of a wait (and not inexpensive). But I'm just reflecting what I've picked up here in the forum; Val and Mica will be better able to address your questions. | ||
| lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq Post Number: 657 Registered: 7-2004 |
As for the midi pickup, Alembic has mounted the Roland unit which is a narrow pickup that is placed near the bridge. The RMC system is totally different. I have the RMC midi pickup in my Godin LGXT-SA, and I'm also having it mounted in a Fernandes Masterhand that is undergoing an extensive modification (and being Alembicized) by Gary Brawer. While I prefer the RMC to the Roland pickup, the RMC won't work on an Alembic. The RMC is bascially six individual pickups mounted in six bridge pieces that replace the kind found on Strats and other Fender types with the strings mounting through the back of the guitar. This won't work with an Alembic as Alembic makes their own bridges that don't use the Fender style individual bridge pieces or the rear mounting strings. Perhaps you could get RMC to make you a one-off (or would it be a six-off?) I have no idea whether they'd do it, but I suspect if they did it would be VERY expensive. Bill, the guitar one | ||
| pace
Intermediate Member Username: pace Post Number: 172 Registered: 4-2004 |
Some good ideas here~ they have resonance because a lot of this stuff has been discussed before!!! The RMC tracks soooo much better than the Roland GK. I feel that if synth pups were more popular, Alembic should / could / would license a similar design and incorporate it into their brass bridges. As far as a hollow body / neck thru design~ Im holding my breath.... I'd like to think that it's not too far down the road....  And finally~ a stereo effects loop!!!! I think it's a great idea. Ideally if Alembic was to do it, it sould be a series instrument with two 5-pin XLRs~ one for the standard power supply, and another wired with 2 send pins, 2 return pins and a common ground for both. This would plug into it's own box w/ impedance transformers running to 2 sets of 1/4" effect loop jacks.... It would also be nice to have a selector switch similar to what Rami has on the Big Byrd for selecting your routing (bridge dry, bridge wet, neck dry, neck wet, etc etc....) -Mike | ||
| davehouck
Moderator Username: davehouck Post Number: 2365 Registered: 5-2002 |
Mike; while you're at it, it might be helpful for the impedance transformers to be switchable. | ||
| lbpesq
Senior Member Username: lbpesq Post Number: 669 Registered: 7-2004 |
Sounds like a lot of wires. Maybe this should be called the Alembic ICU mod. LOL Bill, tgo | ||
| pace
Intermediate Member Username: pace Post Number: 173 Registered: 4-2004 |
Dave~ I'd love to rectify the problem between active electronics and certain stomp boxes. The switchable transformers may or may not help, as soon as I have the time I'm going to tinker around with the idea. Bill~ if we could only add a hexaphonic ebow incased in an iron lung we'd be all set!!!!......lol..... I had a dream a few months ago where I was in the shop with Ron, going over the idea of a stereo effects loop, and he said it was going to cost $11,000 to incorporate it into the guitar!!!!! Guess I'll keep dreaming..... | ||
| osoloco69
New Username: osoloco69 Post Number: 2 Registered: 9-2005 |
Maybe it could look a bit like this but with different knobs(only prefer two humbuckers). I was thinking of a rmc 13 pin and an effects loop with a footboard that has a pre-amp wired in the front of the effects in the loop(on the floor), but your dual 5 pin interests me. Would this power the electronics fully? I would rather not have a bettery and battery covering.  | ||
| tom_z
Intermediate Member Username: tom_z Post Number: 182 Registered: 7-2004 |
Wow - interesting hybrid of two Resurrection guitars. It looks like a photoshop job - or did Tim really build something like that? | ||
| osoloco69
New Username: osoloco69 Post Number: 3 Registered: 9-2005 |
this is a photoshop prototype...Tim did make a hollowbody tribute though...this is the shape that I am looking for. I have spoken with tim and he is interested in the idea. I am thinking of a special hollow through neck that will take a good bit of time to route from the side. What do y'all think of the shape? | ||
| pace
Intermediate Member Username: pace Post Number: 176 Registered: 4-2004 |
That's a scary combination of Jerry's & Trey's main axes..... Seriously~ scary!!!!! Im with ya on the idea of a neck-thru hollowbody, but I'm curious why it would have to be routed from the side?!?!? | ||
| osoloco69
New Username: osoloco69 Post Number: 4 Registered: 9-2005 |
Just to add a little more resonance from the airspace in the center of the block part of the neck. This will achieve the longer sustain of a neck through design but with a little little less muting from the block. This also allows for no bracing to be used for the top and back. If the sides are solid cut from laminates in block form they would be sturdier than bent sides and would have a very unique tone. This would be easy to achieve with a cnc system. Think of the block of the through neck looking like a sewing needle with an eye, where the neck is the point and the block is the eye when viewed from the side. | ||
| osoloco69
New Username: osoloco69 Post Number: 5 Registered: 9-2005 |
Will alembic make something like the Steve Cripe eagle, or is Irwin the only GD luthier alembic copies because of his previous employment? | ||
| son_of_magni
Advanced Member Username: son_of_magni Post Number: 207 Registered: 1-2004 |
You mean something like this?  | ||
| osoloco69
New Username: osoloco69 Post Number: 6 Registered: 9-2005 |
Holy shittaker man YES.....YESYESYES...thats it...bend 2&5/8" sides or preferrably use flatsawn wood that thickness and route the inside to accomodate the neckthrough, and then take the tops and back and carve the curvature leaving for the center of both to not have any curvature to fit the neckthrough comfortably and tight. Is this for the further? Wow sustain and light weight. and people thought I was crazy for thinking of such ideas. What does this option do to price? | ||
| son_of_magni
Advanced Member Username: son_of_magni Post Number: 209 Registered: 1-2004 |
No this was not an Alembic. This is a neck I made for a solid/hollow bass. But the idea behind it is just about exactly what you are talking about except that this is a flat top bass. Oh, I see you list your home page as mimf! Maybe you saw the finished product a few weeks ago... (Message edited by son_of_magni on October 09, 2005) | ||
| osoloco69
New Username: osoloco69 Post Number: 7 Registered: 9-2005 |
I can't find the pics on the forum anywhere...Thats what I want to do but with a tapered tail like a languedoc, with the center routed like yours. How much sustain did that baby have? | ||
| kmh364
Senior Member Username: kmh364 Post Number: 1105 Registered: 9-2003 |
Karl: Speaking of the finished product, do you have pix to share? Cheers, Kevin | ||
| son_of_magni
Advanced Member Username: son_of_magni Post Number: 211 Registered: 1-2004 |
Well, since you asked so nicely... It's an experimental hollow body electric. The sustain, and everything else about the sound, is superb. You can't tell from the pictures but the headstock, fingerboard, front "shim" (on the body) are from one continous piece of macassar ebony.    (Message edited by son_of_magni on October 14, 2005) | ||
| son_of_magni
Advanced Member Username: son_of_magni Post Number: 223 Registered: 1-2004 |
Hey Doctor! Did you ever inquire to Mica or Val about this idea? If they would do it I'd be happy to talk them through the process, ha ha. As if I could teach them anything... But I think it would be an awesome instrument! |
